Sad to ask: checklists for migrating to PC?

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  1. eclipse macrumors 6502a

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    Hi all,
    with work changes coming our way, I might have to migrate to PC. Does anyone have a good checklist for all the things I'm going to have to try and export, translate, and convert? Any good hints?
     
  2. cswifx Suspended

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    I'd say:

    1. Make a list of your apps. Some of them may not be available on Windows/Linux. You may also want to contact the developers if you face additional issues.
    2. Transfer your personal data. This includes your files, browser data, and configurations. Make a list of what you need to transfer, and leave out what you don't need.
    3. Know what will stop working on Windows/Linux. This includes having a Trusted Device (PCs can't be used as Trusted Devices), iCloud Sync for some apps, and App Store apps (won't need them if you are on Windows/Linux).
    4. Be prepared to pay for your apps again if you have any paid apps on your Mac.
    5. Be prepared to download a large amount of data (e.g. iTunes Store purchases, Apple Music downloads).
    6. Be prepared to perform operations that can only be done once (e.g. One-way transfers).
     
  3. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, number 1 is a very important first step! Good idea, thanks.
     
  4. m4v3r1ck, Feb 26, 2017
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    Hi there,

    1. What are the hardware requirements for your (new) work on the PC?
    2. What kind of work is it anyway, if I may ask.
    3. Does it include any heavy rendering stuff that needs a full throttle hardwired PC?
    4. What Mac do you own atm?

    Before considering the actual migrating - and having to buy the Windows counterpart for your current macOS workflow applications - to Windows, you could also consider running macOS as a virtual machine on PC alongside.

    Then you are able to make use of your current macOS applications/workflow, except for those applications that require you to boot macOS natively on its hardware.

    I use VMware Fusion for Windows 10 on my Mac Pro, try to get a trial copy of VMware Workstation to get a good look-and-feel of macOS on a PC.
    There's also Virtual Box, but perhaps another fellow MR member could chime in for that particular brand, I have no knowledge about.

    Note: it all depends of course if you have a PC coming to you soon, to give this VMware Workstation option a trial spin!

    Good luck on making some tough decisions during this - migration and transition to PC - fase.

    Cheers
     
  5. admwright macrumors regular

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    I am not sure that virtualisation is an option. From what I understand OSX can only be virtualised on an OSX host system not other host systems.
     
  6. maflynn Moderator

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    1. Apps, get a list of must have, and find windows alternatives.
    2. If possible move as much of your data to the cloud, i.e., dropbox or OneDrive, so when you configure your new machine, it will download without too much fuss.
    3. Backup solutions find a backup solution that works for you in Windows.
    4. Acquaint yourself with the windows way of doing things, there are some things windows does better and some things OS X does better. Get to know the platform you'll be working in
     
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    There are hacks that allow you to run certain version of macOS on VirtualBox and VMWare Workstation.
     
  8. m4v3r1ck macrumors 68020

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    NOTE: I've just read on the VMware support website, that technically, for sure it's possible!

    BUT you'll be breaking Apples' SLA, so disregard my post as that seems not to be legal!

    Cheers
     
  9. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks all!
    I completely forgot running Windows on my iMac!
    It will get many more years out of the hardware, and let me use imovie for family movie projects. The next machine I buy (in the distant future) will probably be a PC, but until then I get to enjoy the best of both worlds, and more gradually shift from one to the other!

    So, how to legally run Windows on my mac in a completely legal manner?
     
  10. cswifx Suspended

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    You can use Boot Camp included in the Mac, alongside a Windows 10 license.
     
  11. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    So I hear that you must fix your partition at a certain size and then it can't be changed, unless you of course:
    1. Backup all your Windows files off the computer
    2. Delete Windows
    3. Reinstall with a larger partition
    Speaking of storing off site, say I export a mac file into a PC friendly version, like imovie into (shudders) Windows Movie Maker. (Blargh!) How do I physically store that off my mac? Won't formatting an external hard drive or USB stick to store mac stuff then make it invisible to PC? How do I actually get converted files back onto the PC side of my mac? Anyone know? Am I going to trust it all to the cloud?

    Lastly, just thinking naughty thoughts about the cloud... what happens if you open a bunch of gmail accounts just for google drive access? ;)
     
  12. admwright macrumors regular

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    If the windows applications you are going to use are not massively resource hungry then using a virtual PC is an alternative to bootcamp. You then have drag and drop between the real and virtual systems, or shared folders (maps Mac folders to drives on the VPC).
     
  13. eclipse thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Sounds great! I guess my greatest fear in (eventually) leaving Mac is leaving iMovie. Would Virtual PC be able to handle moving movie files around and one day (gulp) actually processing them in Virtual PC?
     
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    macOS virtual machines use hacks and workarounds, and do not support Apple's Quartz graphics (or something similar). iMovie will probably not work.
    As far as my experience tells me anyway, I could be wrong.
     
  15. Tech198 macrumors G4

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    and be prepared to covert file formats if needed. Actually i'd argue the first point of this.... Many more programs/alternatives are available for windows than they are on Mac.. Always have been, so that's not gonna change. The revers of this i always found... I wanna use something, and not available on Mac at all..

    May have a few problems with file extensions and formats... (when u convert Numbers to .xls on Windows will the formatting change... ? similar when u read a word document from Mac and now u read it in Windows), may need conversion packs from Microsoft, or may just not be able to be done..
     

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