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Safari 1.0 Beta 2 (v74) update

Re: safari and citibank

Originally posted by Charliel7
Anyone have any luck using Safari with Citibank on-line banking?
Even with the new upgrade, it still doesn't work for me, unless I emulate IE, and even then it's funky.
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Ummmm...are you using MS IE for OS X or are you emulating it through VirtualPC?

Maybe I just misunderstand what you mean by "emulate".
 
Re: Re: safari and citibank

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Ummmm...are you using MS IE for OS X or are you emulating it through VirtualPC?

Maybe I just misunderstand what you mean by "emulate".
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I think he means he changed the user agent string via the debug menu.
 
Originally posted by Duff-Man
Duff-man says [fill in the blank]......oh yeah!
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Great way to debut, Duff-Man! Catchy handle, and for a newbie you've already made quite a splash! My only complaint...I can't help hearing the Duff-Man voice when I read your posts...I'm reading them as if they are scripts that I have to read for a commercial spot...in Duff-Man's voice...that's driving me nuts! But keep it up.:D

Downloaded Safari via Software Update. Flawless installation. Then...I went to test my pet peeve.

My school district's IT department, where I work at, is toying with Outlook. I'm part of the pilot of this changeover...playing the part of an end user. I would never be able to get into the Outlook web access portion of Exchange server with Safari, because the "Domain" field was missing...in Internet Explorer, it shows up. (see attached) If you just go ahead and enter the name and password, Safari went into an endless loop, and had to be force quit, much to the delight and snickering of my mostly PeeCee Winblows co-workers.

Well, I started up this latest beta of Safari, and when the name and password field came up, the Domain field was STILL missing. Fearing the worst, I just went ahead and entered name and password and....it worked. Friggin' awesome! Guess what's on my agenda for work tomorrow! Watch out, co-workers...:D
 

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Originally posted by Captincork
If i am not mistaken, which i very well could be but don't you have to pay a duty on thinks that are imported into your country and that is why it is more expensive, and it is trade laws and not apple making the computers more expensive, i could very easily be wrong, but i thought i remembered learning about that is some class that i took.
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Well, here in Germany for example we have a very "funny" situation... The € was around 0.85US$ last year. Already at that time the Apple products were way overpriced (about 15% without sales tax). Now the € is about 1.15US$. That means theoretically Apple products should be 25% cheaper by now.

I tell you a secret... they are not. It's the opposite. They cut dealer margins and the prices even went up!

At the moment Apple is ripping off their european customers more than ever and I know a lot of people (including myself) who are VERY pissed about that. Ask yourself why international sales were stronger in the last quarterly results. It is simply because the US$ was losing a lot of ground against the other currencies. Actually Apple was further losing market share and sales were stagnant.

Apple is screwing us to avoid red ink on their balance sheet. Don't forget that 50% of Apple customers are not located in the USA. So let's assume we just subtract a quarter of their income! Ooops... Apple is making losses then.

But I can assure you that one day this policy of number magic for the stock holders will backfire. Nobody I know wants to spend a cent on a new mac at the moment as long as the prices are not adjusted properly to the exchange course.

Steve we don't deserve a treatment like this. We are the reason that Apple is still alive so stop that ignorance!

groovebuster
 
Originally posted by totally_fly
Sure, US Only is annoying for us international people, but what's more annoying is how fu**ing much Apple marks up their prices for international users. I would save 600$ Can buying a powermac in the US. The reason is that Apple hasn't recognized the fluctuations in the value of the Canadian dollar.. it was .63 last year, its now .71 Big difference, and we get jipped cuz of it! That's what annoys me, not US Only (temporary) releases of things like Music Store, iPhoto features and Safari updates.

Apple needs to fix international pricing, now. Their products cost way too much outside the US.
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I agree, the same thing happens in the UK on pre-tax prices. Other companies seem to do it as well (Norton, Macromedia, mem makers, etc.) but somehow Dell does not. :mad: I'm lucky that I've got family in the US and I just get them to order it for me. Unfortunately asking some other visiting relative to bring back some software or mem is OK, but I can't really ask them to bring back a PowerMac and 23" Cineman Display ;)
 
Re: quit your complaining

Originally posted by zedwards
:eek: Fact: Apple is based in California, which happens to be a part of the US. Fact: Safari has always been and will always be for EVERYBODY, even euro-whiners. Just because Apple reslease iTMS for US only does not mean that they release software for ONLY US.
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Fact: Euro Customers pay about 20% more for the same product as US customers.
Want a 17" PB and live in the EU? Go, fly to New York, buy it, fly back, save 200 bucks even after you payed 400euro for the flight.
Go and figure that one out.
 
Originally posted by mara
This is wrong thread for this - I know.

But I´d like to point out that here in Europe there is no logic in pricing. For example..[..]

Apple is an international company. But it is good to remember that Apple computers have been made in Cork, Ireland...
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Really Cork? I know that all my order aknowledgements come from Cork, but the products I've been getting are all straight out of taiwan.
Thats all especially cool as it takes at least a week until they get here. Just as the IPod I've ordered an apr.28th. It was shipped yesterday in Taiwan, I expect it to arrive here by the end of next or the beginning of the following week.

So that will be again good for my statistics that say: Order at the Apple store, and receive your product after 3weeks if everything works out great, or wait even longer if something goes wrong.
 
My banking has never worked, and will probably never work.

I use Skandiabanken in Norway, and the only supported browser for mac is Netscape 4.7 in classic. Any other Norwegians here with the same problems?
 
I don't know if this was actually a fix or not, or if my computer just f'ed up earlier... but I noticed in v73, some sites links and headers looked really screwy:

Here's a couple screenshots:
http://www.premiumpolar.com/awln1.gif
http://www.premiumpolar.com/awln2.gif

This was fixed when I updated to v74. Although I haven't heard of these problems with v73 before, so my computer might have just been messing with me.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Not for me it's not

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
If you only would add "eth" to the occasional word you could be IC too...or my armies will crush you! In fact, they already have! Believe it!

Anyway, I have my whole applications folder subdivided. There is (normally) not one application which sits in the root application folder...nonetheless all my apps are in there. SU does not work on almost anything there. Annoying. What happened to Apple's superior file-tracking? I mean, apparently the OS even keeps track of what apps you have installed on your computer, which you can find in the system info, so why doesn't it know where they are?

Or does it "know" what apps you have installed based on what's in its library?

Does anyone else have issue with the Windowfication of this bit? It's likely I'm just not informed enough on how Jaguar interfaces with applications to complain.

"Kerplunketh!" :D
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Yes. I have problems with it. Just apple's apps alone that come preinstalled (if you count all the utilities and what not) are a lot. I have them in subfolders (e.g., iApps), and I'm sure plenty of others do to. Why can't apple/OS X figure out that iTunes is in a subfolder within applications and recognize its existence?
 
Originally posted by groovebuster
Well, here in Germany for example we have a very "funny" situation... The € was around 0.85US$ last year. Already at that time the Apple products were way overpriced (about 15% without sales tax). Now the € is about 1.15US$. That means theoretically Apple products should be 25% cheaper by now.
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Keep in mind that Apple, like any big company, hedges currency fluctuations. They've already sold the euros that they expect to take in in revenue, probably at last year's rates (or the year before). It hurts when the euro is going up, but it keeps you safe from price increases when the euro falls.
 
You have to compare USA-prices with European-prices which do not include VAT. In Europe taxes are included in prices, but in the USA the prices are without tax so that means you pay more than you first think (from 7-13%).

=> the cost difference is not THAT big, but it is noticeable.
 
Originally posted by Captincork
If i am not mistaken, which i very well could be but don't you have to pay a duty on thinks that are imported into your country and that is why it is more expensive, and it is trade laws and not apple making the computers more expensive, i could very easily be wrong, but i thought i remembered learning about that is some class that i took.
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There is a duty paid for any good entering any country. That means that the stuff shipped to the USA pays duties also. The US duty system is a very big beast, and there are ways of bringing things in duty free. In some countries, duty is paid based on a container, regardles of what is in it (Russia for one).
 
Originally posted by voicegy
I would never be able to get into the Outlook web access portion of Exchange server with Safari, because the "Domain" field was missing...in Internet Explorer, it shows up.
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Voicegy, the way you use domains in Safari (or even in IE if it doesn't provide a domain field) is by putting "domain/username" in the username field.

So if your domain was "district" then you'd log in as "district/voicegy". If you're in Windows then you'd log in as "district\voicegy".

Hope that helps!

smirk
 
Is anyone out there having problems with Hotmail?? I can't seem to have the "automatic login" work with Safari, but it does work with Camino, IE, and Netscape.
 
Originally posted by voicegy
Great way to debut, Duff-Man! Catchy handle, and for a newbie you've already made quite a splash! My only complaint...I can't help hearing the Duff-Man voice when I read your posts...I'm reading them as if they are scripts that I have to read for a commercial spot...in Duff-Man's voice...that's driving me nuts! But keep it up.:D
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Uhh, duff-man has been around for a while...:)

Anyway, this safari update looks good, still has some things that needs to be tweaked, but it's coming along.
 
Originally posted by smirk
Voicegy, the way you use domains in Safari (or even in IE if it doesn't provide a domain field) is by putting "domain/username" in the username field.
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Thanks, I did try that little trick a few weeks back, but to no avail. I should have mentioned it in my original post. However, all is well now anyway!
 
Re: Re: Not for me it's not

Originally posted by Duff-Man
Duff-man says.....I bet you moved it out of the Applications folder didn't you....if you put it back in there and try S.U. again you'll probably see it.....oh yeah!
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I'd be looking to see if there's a Safari.pkg file in ~/library/receipts. That's what Software Update does.
 
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