Safari 2.0 scroll bar weirdness...

[doowrehs]

Hi there,

Is anyone else experiencing strange things with the rendering of scroll bars in Safari 2.0? By this, I mean that the scroll bars don't seem to properly update in terms of relative length from page to page, and remnants of the "previous" bar remain visible. I used to get it occassionally in 1.x, but it seems more common in 2.0.

It doesn't occur on most sites I visit, but it does occur consistently on those sites affected. For an example of what I mean, visit the site linked below and surf around a few of the forums/threads for a few minutes and you should see this behaviour.

http://www.okayplayer.com/boards.htm

Can't for the life of me figure out why it seems to only affect certain sites. Is it something to do with their coding?

BTW - have repaired permissions, emptied Safari's cache, run Macjanitor, etc. with no difference.

 

[thequicksilver]

Here too. As is becoming almost inevitable to say, I think we're going to have to wait for the first update. 😡

 

[tech4all]

Very rarely do I get that bug to. And I'm on Safari 1.2.2.

 

[Starfury]

Yes, I've had the same problem. (Am running a fresh (erase and) install of Tiger on a 1ghz Powerbook G4 12").

I was going to put up with the brushed metal and go back to Safari in Tiger, especially as we were promised performance increases, however that seems not to be the case. Although RSS and Private Browsing aren't bad features, I'm staying with Firefox for now...

 

[mkrishnan]

I just wanted to vote in that I went to the posted site, and I could not get Safari to replicate this behavior. One difference I noticed is that I set the scrollbar arrows preference away from the standard (both at one end of scrollbar) to the more common setup (arrows at opposite ends of scrollbars) in the SysPrefs appearance pane. Think that this setting and the issue are in any way related? 😱

 

[doowrehs]

Thanks for the replies everyone - glad to know I'm not the only one experiencing this.

@ mkrishnan - I changed my scroll arrow settings to match yours, but still got the same thing (see attached pic). Consequently, I'm going to report this to both Apple and any websites I come across that cause this behaviour.

Still curious to know what exactly is causing the problem in the site's coding...

 

[Daveway]

I only got it when i went on the news site and that was only briefly. I don't think it's bad coding on the websites part but more of a bug in Safari. Coders don't determine scrolling issues. Scrolling is rendered by the web browser.

 

[icecavern]

I get this on my Powerbook and on the girlfriends iBook too.

Pete

 

[DrNeroCF]

Do those sites do that custom scrollbar things in IE? What about your video cards? Core image compatible?

 

[icecavern]

Makes no difference what site you use for me. G4 1.2Ghz iBook and a 1.33Ghz 17" Powerbook.

Pete

 

[mad jew]

I'm getting that weird rendering problem a little bit too on my iBook.

What about your video cards? Core image compatible?

I'm not sure if it's core image related but I'll check for you when I get my new iMac. 😀

 

[thequicksilver]

Do those sites do that custom scrollbar things in IE? What about your video cards? Core image compatible?

If scrollbars in Tiger are reliant on a new GPU intensive feature, then I'll eat my hat. 🙂

(Note: I don't own a single hat, but want to sound as certain as possible.)

 

[mad jew]

(Note: I don't own a single hat, but want to sound as certain as possible.)

No hats? Ohh, I see, you're from England... 😉

 

[icecavern]

It only happens in safari for me no other apps. I assume Safari draws the scrollbars itself rather than using the OS?

Pete

 

[croshtique]

I've noticed it a few times as well, although it only seems to happen on sites using frames.

 

[mkrishnan]

It only happens in safari for me no other apps. I assume Safari draws the scrollbars itself rather than using the OS?

Pete

Of all the apps for which I most doubt this is true....

 

[frenetic]

I was going to put up with the brushed metal and go back to Safari in Tiger, especially as we were promised performance increases, however that seems not to be the case. Although RSS and Private Browsing aren't bad features, I'm staying with Firefox for now...

OT: If you really hate so much the brushed metal, here is a link that tells you how to make it "plastic" - like:

link

Apart from this, I've had the weird scroll bar only once.

 

[hodgjy]

I was going to put up with the brushed metal and go back to Safari in Tiger, especially as we were promised performance increases, however that seems not to be the case. Although RSS and Private Browsing aren't bad features, I'm staying with Firefox for now...

The new Shiira 1.0 looks pretty good. I've been playing around with it and sorta like it.