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Safari 3 - Major memory leak?

After extensive (well, not really but just the past week or so) of using Safari, Safari w/ the latest Webkit, and Camino... I've concluded that:

Safari has major memory leak issues, the biggest of which is with flash videos. It only takes a few hours of using Safari for the physical memory usage to get up to 500-800mb+. Ridiculous if you ask me.

Safari with the latest Webkit (latest nightly build off the Webkit website) is a LOT better. I know someone in this thread mentioned that there was recently a memory leak issue fixed due to flash and I'm confident to say I'm pretty damn sure they got it because memory leak issues is not nearly as bad. However, there is still some remaining memory leak issues it seems because my physical memory will slowly creep up to about 500-600mb+ still. It takes days though versus a few hours so it's a huge improvement in my opinion.

Camino doesn't have any memory leak issues as far as I can tell. The highest I've seen the physical memory usage get is about 250mb and that's being open and used for almost a week. Still, I prefer Safari over Camino since I find Safari more pleasing to use (much faster imo).
 
I had safari at 400mb within half hour of surfing, downloading that webkit thing atm, hopefully this'll fix it, its a shame its still got the memory leak, really like using safari.
 
Eluzion said:
After extensive (well, not really but just the past week or so) of using Safari, Safari w/ the latest Webkit, and Camino... I've concluded that:

Safari has major memory leak issues, the biggest of which is with flash videos. It only takes a few hours of using Safari for the physical memory usage to get up to 500-800mb+. Ridiculous if you ask me.

Safari with the latest Webkit (latest nightly build off the Webkit website) is a LOT better. I know someone in this thread mentioned that there was recently a memory leak issue fixed due to flash and I'm confident to say I'm pretty damn sure they got it because memory leak issues is not nearly as bad. However, there is still some remaining memory leak issues it seems because my physical memory will slowly creep up to about 500-600mb+ still. It takes days though versus a few hours so it's a huge improvement in my opinion.

Camino doesn't have any memory leak issues as far as I can tell. The highest I've seen the physical memory usage get is about 250mb and that's being open and used for almost a week. Still, I prefer Safari over Camino since I find Safari more pleasing to use (much faster imo).
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I found camino to be almost as bad as Safari.

Schtumple said:
I had safari at 400mb within half hour of surfing, downloading that webkit thing atm, hopefully this'll fix it, its a shame its still got the memory leak, really like using safari.
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I have been using webkit for a little while now and the current version has been open for about 2 days (since last update) and it is only taking up 170MB.

I use Nightshift to automatically update my webkit to the latest version.

You have to be wary that it isn't as stable as the full release of Safari and it may quit. Although saying that the very recent builds have not been that bad, maybe once in 3 days.
 
I've been having problems with safari crashing out right whenever I have two flash videos going. I never even looked at how much ram I was using. Now that I know to look for ram usage I'm using over 240 MB with only one safari window open and nothing else
 
Really? You've had memory leak issues with Camino? I've used it exclusively for web browsing for a week straight before. Never restarted and it never exceeded 250mb. Weird.

As for Webkit, it's been a LOT better. Right now I'm only at 200mb with four tabs open. There was only one build that crashed all the time for me but other then that, it's been just as, if not more stable than Safari. I'll have to check out Nightshift for automatically downloading the nightly builds. Never knew about that. ;)
 
Yeah for me Camino would operate at about 350MB of usage when Safari would be at 400MB and Webkit 170MB:cool: (under the exact same conditions and period of time.)

I find it hard to push webkit more than 200MB, I have Forum Spy (infamous ram hog) + 6 bigish pdfs and 7 other tabs open and it is just pushing 194MB at the moment.

NightShift it says 1.5 but if you follow the download link it gives you 1.6.

I use Lingon so that Nightshift automatically runs at a set time. Means each morning I wake up with a new version of Webkit.
 
I dont notice because I rock 4GB of Ram in my MBP; however, it is ridiculous that Safari uses so much memory.
 
There's another nice memory patch in the works, btw; I'll try to remember to post here when it's checked in to give people a heads up and get a feel for the before and after numbers.
 
DoFoT9 said:
can i just ask...

if its using up so much RAM why dont you just quit it and reopen it?
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Because I rather not have to quit and relaunch my web browser every 2 hours? That and the fact that a web browser using 800mb+ is a huge problem.
 
Eluzion said:
Because I rather not have to quit and relaunch my web browser every 2 hours? That and the fact that a web browser using 800mb+ is a huge problem.
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ok thats fair enough.

but from my experience i only have to quit it once every 2days, memory never goes about 150mb. no extras, no mods. nothing. very stable IMO
 
DoFoT9 said:
can i just ask...

if its using up so much RAM why dont you just quit it and reopen it?
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The usual answers in my case are a) I have umpteen bazillion tabs open with unsaved state in them (such as the webapp I'm writing for work, paused in the debugger), or b) I'm doing webkit hacking and paying attention to ram use is a productive thing to do :)

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DoFoT9 said:
ok thats fair enough.

but from my experience i only have to quit it once every 2days, memory never goes about 150mb. no extras, no mods. nothing. very stable IMO
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Yes, you're seeing the thing that plagues all browser discussion threads everywhere: browsers use different amounts of ram (wildly different) for different people. It's a pain in the butt. This is also a major why some people swear by Camino and hate Safari, while others swear at Camino and love Safari.
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Well like I mentioned before, the latest Webkit has been much better. It's been a couple days of intense browsing (if there is such a thing) and I'm only up to 309mb of physical memory usage. Normally I'd be at 800mb+ so this is tolerable. I'm looking forward to that other memory leak issue fix you speak of Catfish Man.

However, with the latest Webkit I'm having a slight problem with flash. If I have anything that is flash open in one tab and open a second tab, it will "burn" through and be visible on the second tab (it flickers in and out). I never had this issue with older Webkit versions so it must be something related to a recent change.
 
Ah, seems to be an issue with just Flash version 9,0,47,0. I updated Flash to version 9,0,115,0 and the problem went away. Already checked the bug tracker and commented on a existing bug entry there.

Cool, that was my only issue. Other then that Webkit has been rock stable.
 
The latest r28586 seems to have gone the other way (happens from time to time with nightlies) as it is currently pushing 370MB on my MB which is a huge increase (getting close to 2x) in comparison to the previous nightly build
 
xUKHCx said:
The latest r28586 seems to have gone the other way (happens from time to time with nightlies) as it is currently pushing 370MB on my MB which is a huge increase (getting close to 2x) in comparison to the previous nightly build
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The one released today, r28650, has been absolutely fantastic for me. Sitting at 175mb of physical memory usage when normally I'd be up to 200-300 by now. *fingers crossed* Hopefully the major memory leak issues will be a thing of the past. ;) I just wonder if Apple would release an update soon for Safari.
 
Eluzion said:
The one released today, r28650, has been absolutely fantastic for me. Sitting at 175mb of physical memory usage when normally I'd be up to 200-300 by now. *fingers crossed* Hopefully the major memory leak issues will be a thing of the past. ;) I just wonder if Apple would release an update soon for Safari.
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I have been using this build for quite a few hours now and it up to 400MB at the moment.
 
Off topic a bit, but Safari 3 for XP blows chunks. WTB non beta status :p

I've noticed Safari on OS:X seems to be quite the resource hog as well.
 
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