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Safari 4 Tops 11 Million Downloads in First Three Days
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i still miss the tabs on the top. that was a feature apple emphasized in the beta. not that it made much of a difference but i def got used to it
No, I opened iTunes yesterday, and it came up "Itunes is out of date bla bla bla...." and the update box had itunes checked, and it also had a box for new software, and safari 4 was in there, checked by default. I run windows 7, and I only use IE8.
I'll use Safari 4 until Chrome for Mac is finalized. Safari 4 has some great features but it's prone to locking up mysteriously when using certain features like bookmarks and history.
I gotta tell you, Chrome is one sweet ride in Windows. If it's half as good in Mac OS X I'm sold.
I gotta tell you, Chrome is one sweet ride in Windows. If it's half as good in Mac OS X I'm sold.
I prefer tabs on the bottom so that's one thing safari 4 got right.
I still won't use it though, since it doesn't have basic features I need, like switching the language of the spell correction. So I'll stick to firefox.
They compare Safari 4 to Firefox 3, which is fair of course, but the speed of firefox 3.5 is much faster.
I still won't use it though, since it doesn't have basic features I need, like switching the language of the spell correction. So I'll stick to firefox.
They compare Safari 4 to Firefox 3, which is fair of course, but the speed of firefox 3.5 is much faster.
I'm not very impressed with safari 4. I think its slower to load web pages. I'm thinking of moving back to 3 until chrome comes out.
I have windows, and the only reason I have Safari is for accessing MobileMe (shockingly, it doesn't like IE). I downloaded Safari 2 times, one for each system, as part of the Apple Software Update program, and I hardly use the thing. I also have Firefox, but only use it sites designed for it. Otherwise I use IE8 with no problems.
These numbers may be inflated a bit from people like me who like having a couple different browsers available. That may not translate into usage.
On a related note, my general boycott of all things Google prevents me from using Chromium.
These numbers may be inflated a bit from people like me who like having a couple different browsers available. That may not translate into usage.
On a related note, my general boycott of all things Google prevents me from using Chromium.
I am downloading safari 4 right now. Will give it a try. Usually it doesnt perform very well compared to Firefox and chrome
What's the deal with Safari?
So...what's the big hoopla, in general, about Safari? I own both Windows and Macs and I use either IE or Firefox on Windows and FF 100% on the Macs. I don't have any Mac friends/peers so I don't know what the big deal is about Safari as a whole. FF was released the same time as Safari.
Also, as some have implied on this thread, is Safari bundled with iTunes and/or Mac OS so that if an "update" is done for either iTunes or the OS that the user is forced to get Safari...and hence count as a "download" on this announcement? If so, that would hugely skew the announcement since people are being forced to get it.
-Eric
So...what's the big hoopla, in general, about Safari? I own both Windows and Macs and I use either IE or Firefox on Windows and FF 100% on the Macs. I don't have any Mac friends/peers so I don't know what the big deal is about Safari as a whole. FF was released the same time as Safari.
Also, as some have implied on this thread, is Safari bundled with iTunes and/or Mac OS so that if an "update" is done for either iTunes or the OS that the user is forced to get Safari...and hence count as a "download" on this announcement? If so, that would hugely skew the announcement since people are being forced to get it.
-Eric
From Safari 3.2.3 To Safari 4.0 And Back - 11,000,000 Minus One
I contributed to this 11 million record. I downloaded Safari 4.0 and tested it on my iMac 20" G5 (I known, it's not the latest release). What I've found:
Heavy and slow program - more resources are used and the response time is slow, especially for additional features like the Topsites page.
Complicated interface - the address bar is a mess, combining too many buttons. The tabs are bigger so fewer pages could be opened simultaneously.
Poor ergonomics - there's no more a progress bar, but a nice message saying "Downloading". I want ergonomics back!
And the end of the day, I deleted Safari 4.0 and went back to Safari 3.2.3. Light and fast, ergonomic and reliable.
So 11,000,000 minus one = 10,999,999
I contributed to this 11 million record. I downloaded Safari 4.0 and tested it on my iMac 20" G5 (I known, it's not the latest release). What I've found:
Heavy and slow program - more resources are used and the response time is slow, especially for additional features like the Topsites page.
Complicated interface - the address bar is a mess, combining too many buttons. The tabs are bigger so fewer pages could be opened simultaneously.
Poor ergonomics - there's no more a progress bar, but a nice message saying "Downloading". I want ergonomics back!
And the end of the day, I deleted Safari 4.0 and went back to Safari 3.2.3. Light and fast, ergonomic and reliable.
So 11,000,000 minus one = 10,999,999
Helping people start the switch
Hey, don't underestimate the impact of positive software experiences in the process of people switching from Windows OS to Mac. Safari was the second piece of Mac software I used after itunes on my PC and helped convince me that I wanted to switch over. Maybe all the recent news about the iphone has helped push Windows users towards other Mac software.
Hey, don't underestimate the impact of positive software experiences in the process of people switching from Windows OS to Mac. Safari was the second piece of Mac software I used after itunes on my PC and helped convince me that I wanted to switch over. Maybe all the recent news about the iphone has helped push Windows users towards other Mac software.
Funny thing is, it works beautifully on my 4-year old iBook--better than Firefox. It sometimes pauses a little while loading up a page, but in general, it's very smooth. Huh.
Why would you think that? There are a lot of iPod Touch users that have Windows computers with iTunes and Quicktime installed. Why not Safari? I downloaded and installed Safari on 3 of my Windows computers.
This is clearly Apple's motive ... expose Windows users to the look and feel of Mac OS X software with the hope that it will eventually encourage users to consider a Mac. It's brilliant.
about 15 seconds for the reply page to load. not sure if it is Tiger or my work internet slowing it down but Safari 3 was FASTER at work.
Have yet to download for home use.
I HATE the "progress" mini bar, i liked the blue bar growing as the page loaded so I knew how much longer till the page was finished loading.
I also DISLIKE the STOP/REFRESH on the right side of the address bar.
Top Sites is cool but slow and slow to load a page when clicked.
History hangs with Cover Flow preview.
ok, not as great as Hyped for me just yet.
Have yet to download for home use.
I HATE the "progress" mini bar, i liked the blue bar growing as the page loaded so I knew how much longer till the page was finished loading.
I also DISLIKE the STOP/REFRESH on the right side of the address bar.
Top Sites is cool but slow and slow to load a page when clicked.
History hangs with Cover Flow preview.
ok, not as great as Hyped for me just yet.
Anyone found a method of copying Safari Bookmarks Leopard into Safari Bookmarks Windows XP without faffing about?
ie, the same easy way that firefox uses backup and restore....
ie, the same easy way that firefox uses backup and restore....
Actually you would be surprised.
Safari is a very good alternative to the crap called Internet Explorer. More stable and faster.
Dave
Safari is a very good alternative to the crap called Internet Explorer. More stable and faster.
Dave