iPad Safari and other browsers won't load certain sites

[goldmac2006]

It might be a block on your router.

Contact your ISP and ensure that no blocks are turned on.

For security fixes - yes. But not application functionality updates.


Functionality updates only apply to current OS. Safari and the OS only get most security fixes for 3 years.

Web protocols are evolving, so some web sites don't work with old browsers. Fall back for a few further years is to use Firefox on macOS. No simple fallback for iPhone and iPad.

Hey everyone! That’s right- thanks for your answers.

Just a quick heads up: check your firewalls and security settings to see if there’s anything blocking you from viewing webpages on Safari.

Flash player is no longer supported, and many browsers you use now require Java, JavaScript, and HTML5.

Also, if you’ve downloaded an app from your ISP on your iPhone, make sure to check the settings on the app. They also have a contact number if you need help.

 

[sdfox7]

Yet I can load citi.com on the 2013 era Mavericks OS.

iOS will never have the browser flexibility of a proper OS due to the dependence on Webkit. You're at the mercy of Apple with an iOS device. Three years and the browser is obsolete.

 

[goldmac2006]

Yet I can load citi.com on the 2013 era Mavericks OS.

iOS will never have the browser flexibility of a proper OS due to the dependence on Webkit. You're at the mercy of Apple with an iOS device. Three years and the browser is obsolete.

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That’s why.

WebKit is surely missing something.

No flexibility to load modern webpages on different older networks.

 

[FeliApple]

Yet I can load citi.com on the 2013 era Mavericks OS.

iOS will never have the browser flexibility of a proper OS due to the dependence on Webkit. You're at the mercy of Apple with an iOS device. Three years and the browser is obsolete.

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And sadly, the earliest issue that surfaces (and the most prevalent for a long while) is browser incompatibility when staying behind, which is all I can do to protect my devices from iOS obliteration.

In my experience, four major versions behind and you start to have issues. By the fifth or sixth, web browsing is practically impossible. Which means that iOS 13 is practically unusable today (I have a 6s on iOS 13 and it’s not good). My Air 5 on iPadOS 15 seems okay for now, though.

 

[AppleFeller]

It would go a long way if apple supported the last prior iOS with newer safari versions akin to macOS so at least web browsing would remain useful for a year if not two past the end of support for a given device.

 

[goldmac2006]

It would go a long way if apple supported the last prior iOS with newer safari versions akin to macOS so at least web browsing would remain useful for a year if not two past the end of support for a given device.

Wise decision. I cannot believe when I use my 1st gen iPad mini it is already unusable and it’s now sitting in a drawer running iOS 9.3 which ain’t even works for anything. Ngl hasn’t been touched for years.

Y’all can’t even check out any webpages if you tried to go on certain websites on iPads that are over 7-10 years and older.

 

[sdfox7]

Wise decision. I cannot believe when I use my 1st gen iPad mini it is already unusable and it’s now sitting in a drawer running iOS 9.3 which ain’t even works for anything. Ngl hasn’t been touched for years.

Y’all can’t even check out any webpages if you tried to go on certain websites on iPads that are over 7-10 years and older.

Can you still download the last compatible version of apps for iOS 9.x?

 

[AppleFeller]

Wise decision. I cannot believe when I use my 1st gen iPad mini it is already unusable and it’s now sitting in a drawer running iOS 9.3 which ain’t even works for anything. Ngl hasn’t been touched for years.

Y’all can’t even check out any webpages if you tried to go on certain websites on iPads that are over 7-10 years and older.

I mean that’s pretty extreme. I’m not saying Apple should let them work for 10+ years but adding a year post iOS being unsupported to still just maintain modern web compatibility wouldn’t be a huge lift on their side as they already do so with macOS. Regardless I feel like Apple has some bigger ideas in regards to Mac’s and iPads in the future so it could be a moot discussion regardless.

 

[gilby101]

It would go a long way if apple supported the last prior iOS with newer safari versions akin to macOS so at least web browsing would remain useful for a year if not two past the end of support for a given device.

I completely agree with the sentiment, but the lack of Safari updates applies to both macOS and iOS. The difference is that macOS has an easy workaround - use a different browser.

 

[goldmac2006]

Can you still download the last compatible version of apps for iOS 9.x?

❌ almost all can’t even use the latest version. Y’all most apps now require the lowest level of iOS which is 12-15.x. My photo editing apps require at least iOS 13-15 or newer, and YT requires at least iOS 15.

 

[rui no onna]

❌ almost all can’t even use the latest version. Y’all most apps now require the lowest level of iOS which is 12-15.x. My photo editing apps require at least iOS 13-15 or newer, and YT requires at least iOS 15.

That may be so but some apps allow downloading older versions for iPads running older iOS.

I remember being able to re-download old Netflix on an OG Air running iOS 9 after iPadOS 15 was released. The old Netflix didn't support video downloads but streaming worked just fine.

 

[goldmac2006]

That may be so but some apps allow downloading older versions for iPads running older iOS.

I remember being able to re-download old Netflix on an OG Air running iOS 9 after iPadOS 15 was released. The old Netflix didn't support video downloads but streaming worked just fine.

Yea as long it still exists in the App Store. I can still install YT or BeautyCam for example on the og mini it will just be the oldest available version. On my red iPhone 7 it would still be able to get latest version as it is iOS 15 which is mostly the
bare minimum.

Most iOS apps can go as furthest back as iOS 12 or iOS/iPadOS 13 in compatibility until the next update warrants any feature(s) or performance changes require a newer version, or as App Store Connect guidelines change.

 

[sdfox7]

That may be so but some apps allow downloading older versions for iPads running older iOS.

I remember being able to re-download old Netflix on an OG Air running iOS 9 after iPadOS 15 was released. The old Netflix didn't support video downloads but streaming worked just fine.

I don't remember when Downloads became available (I did a quick web search), but my old iOS 12 devices such as my iPhone 6 and iPad Air 1 support the feature in Netflix. They are running v. 12.51 which is the final version.

The ad-free plan also gives you many more downloads than the ad-supported plans, which is limited to 15 downloads per month per device.

 

[FeliApple]

Can you still download the last compatible version of apps for iOS 9.x?

Yeah, that works. Of course some apps may not work, but you can. That said, I thought YouTube worked forever but it recently broke on iOS 12. They had never prevented older iOS versions from using it and now the app requires an update and won’t let you use it with the latest compatible version of iOS 12.

And there are many apps that will eventually break even though they allow you to install them.

Funnily enough… a great website to use on older iOS versions is… MacRumors. I haven’t tried it in a few months, but it still worked a few months ago on my iPhone 6s on iOS 10.

Apple not allowing Safari to be updated as a standalone app is abhorrent though. It is the fastest item to break.

 

[goldmac2006]

Yeah, that works. Of course some apps may not work, but you can. That said, I thought YouTube worked forever but it recently broke on iOS 12. They had never prevented older iOS versions from using it and now the app requires an update and won’t let you use it with the latest compatible version of iOS 12.

And there are many apps that will eventually break even though they allow you to install them.

Funnily enough… a great website to use on older iOS versions is… MacRumors. I haven’t tried it in a few months, but it still worked a few months ago on my iPhone 6s on iOS 10.

Apple not allowing Safari to be updated as a standalone app is abhorrent though. It is the fastest item to break.

True you tested it on all the devices that you never updated and kept it on iOS 12 right?

 

[sdfox7]

Yeah, that works. Of course some apps may not work, but you can. That said, I thought YouTube worked forever but it recently broke on iOS 12. They had never prevented older iOS versions from using it and now the app requires an update and won’t let you use it with the latest compatible version of iOS 12.

And there are many apps that will eventually break even though they allow you to install them.

Funnily enough… a great website to use on older iOS versions is… MacRumors. I haven’t tried it in a few months, but it still worked a few months ago on my iPhone 6s on iOS 10.

Apple not allowing Safari to be updated as a standalone app is abhorrent though. It is the fastest item to break.

The workaround is to use the browser. Works perfectly.

 

[goldmac2006]

The workaround is to use the browser. Works perfectly.

The only way until it can no longer support Safari or prompt you to update your browser . 😂

However, if you have certain games or apps that tell you to update and won’t let you dismiss the message until you update it in the App Store, you’re out of luck. For example, the T-Mobile Tuesdays app used to require iOS 13.x or later, but in a new update last year it was renamed and now requires iOS 16 or later.

 

[sdfox7]

The only way until it can no longer support Safari or prompt you to update your browser . 😂

However, if you have certain games or apps that tell you to update and won’t let you dismiss the message until you update it in the App Store, you’re out of luck. For example, the T-Mobile Tuesdays app used to require iOS 13.x or later, but in a new update last year it was renamed and now requires iOS 16 or later.

Yes. I guess it will depend on what UA method Google/Youtube uses to sniff out the browser. They could either allow/block based on the iOS version, or the browser version.

Chrome 92 could probably work for a good long time, but the UA includes Safari and iOS 12 language.

It's also interesting that the OS is identified as 12.5.0 and the .7 patch is missing (12.5.7).

 

[goldmac2006]

Yes. I guess it will depend on what UA method Google/Youtube uses to sniff out the browser. They could either allow/block based on the iOS version, or the browser version.

Chrome 92 could probably work for a good long time, but the UA includes Safari and iOS 12 language.

It's also interesting that the OS is identified as 12.5.0 and the .7 patch is missing (12.5.7).

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That was tested on an iPhone 6 running iOS 12 right?

 

[sdfox7]

That was tested on an iPhone 6 running iOS 12 right?

Yes, 12.5.7 (16H81)