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safari: apple can do this?

Masquerade

Masquerade

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I don't have any web mobile experience since i bought the iphone. Safari crashes always. always. every firmware. i'm sick of this. This can't be web mobile experience.. i can't make a post on imdb. shutdown. i tried on macrumors, and i got one in five. i scroll on my bank account and boom. again. i visit gizmodo, switch to classic page, scroll, boom.

if i had bought an iPod and the device refused to play music this would be huge news, all around the world.

never been around more than 12 minutes on safari...
 
Really? I mean it crashes soemtimes for me, but not as bad as it sounds for you


Did you try a restore? If you did(and it didn't help) go talk to Apple see what they say
 
Masquerade said:
I don't have any web mobile experience since i bought the iphone. Safari crashes always. always. every firmware. i'm sick of this. This can't be web mobile experience.. i can't make a post on imdb. shutdown. i tried on macrumors, and i got one in five. i scroll on my bank account and boom. again. i visit gizmodo, switch to classic page, scroll, boom.

if i had bought an iPod and the device refused to play music this would be huge news, all around the world.

never been around more than 12 minutes on safari...
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Wow.
It's very irregular that Safari is crashing that often.
Safari never crashes that often on my iPod touch, especially on firmware 2.2
Maybe try restoring it.
 
Safari never crashes on my phone. Try a full restore. Whenever I have a problem, I do a restore as a new phone. Also remember that you can always call apple or try to exchange it if you still have the warranty.
 
Masquerade said:
I don't have any web mobile experience since i bought the iphone. Safari crashes always. always. every firmware. i'm sick of this. This can't be web mobile experience.. i can't make a post on imdb. shutdown. i tried on macrumors, and i got one in five. i scroll on my bank account and boom. again. i visit gizmodo, switch to classic page, scroll, boom.

if i had bought an iPod and the device refused to play music this would be huge news, all around the world.

never been around more than 12 minutes on safari...
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What kind of websites are you visiting? I have a feeling that users (and the websites they habit) are more responsible for Safari crashing than Apple is.
 
milani said:
What kind of websites are you visiting? I have a feeling that users (and the websites they habit) are more responsible for Safari crashing than Apple is.
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Should it matter? If you can only visit certain websites for fear of it crashing, it's not the real web experience. For the record, mine very rarely crashes.
 
milani said:
What kind of websites are you visiting? I have a feeling that users (and the websites they habit) are more responsible for Safari crashing than Apple is.
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the crashes happens a lot at imdb forums, macrumors forums, gizmodo full site, engadget, i mean, those ones i can remember because they are well know.

When safari is crashing? You know right away when:

- the loading indicator is almost reaching the right side of the url field; if the loading indicator is stopped more than 4 seconds, it will crash.

- if you pick a textbox and the first 3 keypresses keep "stuck" in intervals of one second then safari will crash too.

- if you are sliding a page when loading, chances are that safari will crash.

is not a crashing but maybe is the lastest in user interfaces:

- if you edit some text area, like those in forums, you will notice that you can't use any scroll bar erm.. you have tap the border (if you can point that thing) of the text area and *wait* well damm wait forever for lines to coming up like a 9600baud transmission thing..
 
I'm constantly on MR on my phone and it NEVER crashes. I stress never because it's literal. Before I exchanged I had a couple but nothing near what you are experiencing.

Go to the Apple store. They'll give you a new one.
 
hollerz said:
Should it matter? If you can only visit certain websites for fear of it crashing, it's not the real web experience. For the record, mine very rarely crashes.
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Of course it shouldn't matter, but it always does. If you're going to MySpace pages (for example) that are just a code heavy nightmare than expect the iPhone and Safari to run into problems - just like Firefox on the desktop might (and often does).

Oh, and from what the OP listed he's typically going to forums. From my experience forums seem to run excessively rough on Mobile Safari, so maybe that's a problem with Safari, or rather how Safari runs and interfaces with forums, but I've noticed that it is significantly less stable on forums as well. I guess if forums are the only place you visit (where you're actually trying to type posts) then you're inevitably going to run into problems (in most cases).
 
Have you upgraded to 2.2 yet?

On the 2.0 and 2.1 versions I was getting about a dozen Safari crashes a day. Since I upgraded it's more like 1 per day, and not even that on some days.
 
milani said:
Of course it shouldn't matter, but it always does. If you're going to MySpace pages (for example) that are just a code heavy nightmare than expect the iPhone and Safari to run into problems - just like Firefox on the desktop might (and often does).

Oh, and from what the OP listed he's typically going to forums. From my experience forums seem to run excessively rough on Mobile Safari, so maybe that's a problem with Safari, or rather how Safari runs and interfaces with forums, but I've noticed that it is significantly less stable on forums as well. I guess if forums are the only place you visit (where you're actually trying to type posts) then you're inevitably going to run into problems (in most cases).
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It's not inevitable. I'm on forums all the time and have no problems with my Safari. It's definitely a case by case basis and should be taken to the Apple store.

If your phone is a piece, don't assume it's the way it's supposed to be. Especially when you have others telling you it's not.

Get it checked out.
 
lostprophet894 said:
It's not inevitable. I'm on forums all the time and have no problems with my Safari. It's definitely a case by case basis and should be taken to the Apple store.

If your phone is a piece, don't assume it's the way it's supposed to be. Especially when you have others telling you it's not.

Get it checked out.
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It's not a hardware problem so taking to the Apple Store will accomplish nothing. They will simply tell you to restore the phone to its original firmware, which you could do without wasting the trip to the store in the first place. If you're really annoyed the crashing then I suggest you (the OP) reset your phone and see if it improves the problem. I can pretty much guarantee it won't because crashing is just an anomalous thing with the firmware itself (so if resetting it doesn't fix it, nothing will). It's in Apple's hands to improve the stability of Safari (which they have been doing with each x.x firmware update).
 
Safari used to crash for me all the time, too. It was VERY annoying and made the iPhone useless for web browsing.

But, upgrading to 2.2 has dramatically helped. Safari has only crashed twice since I updated to 2.2. Although, when it does crash now, it freezes the entire phone and requires a hard re-boot. But, still better than crashing every time I load a website on the iPhone.
 
The problem is your iPhone is running out of memory. When it runs low on memory it kills the currently-running app so that you will always have enough to run the phone app. Safari unfortunately takes up a lot of memory; some web pages take more than others (particularly ones with lots of pictures like Gizmodo and Engadget). And if you have multiple pages loaded at once (sounds like that may be your problem, if you are talking about sliding between pages while one is loading), that can take up a huge amount depending on the pages loaded, since all the pages are remaining in memory.

So what can you do? First off, make sure you are running OS 2.2 - Safari takes less memory in that update. Second, close any pages you aren't using - if you've got 6 or 8 pages loaded, that's not good. If it does crash, shut down the system and restart it to clean out memory, by holding the reset button until it gives you the option to shut off the power (and then shutting it off).

Oh, and note that Safari stays in memory after you close it, so if it's using up a lot of memory, you are running the risk of other apps crashing as well.
 
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