Safari Boggs down easily! Why?

[wowser]

I was glad of this post - so it isn't just my eMac! thanks! Do you think MS will bother updating IE for the Mac? Not that i'd care much, but some sites prefer it for compatability. Firefox is my second favourite

 

[latergator116]

I am posting this using Firebird. I dowloaded both Mozilla and Firebird, but I definately like this better. Firebird is so much smoother than Safari and I haven't had a beach ball waiting symbol yet. The only thinkg that I miss from Safari is the bookmarks - I liked having a little icon next to the bookmark (it made it easier to find). But, so far so good. I will report any other probelms/issues.

Edit: eh, at least I got the fire part right...

 

[wowser]

evem Firebird in Windows is good, actually

 

[Celeron]

If you aren't using Firefox or Adium because they don't look like Apple's product then I'm not sure what I can tell you. That doesn't seem like a good reason to me, but to each his own.

As far as I'm concerned, Firefox is far superior to Safari in almost every way. Safari is slow and clunky and it renders pages quite a bit slower than Firefox.

And, Thunderbird isn't a browser, its a mail client.

 

[wrldwzrd89]

If you aren't using Firefox or Adium because they don't look like Apple's product then I'm not sure what I can tell you. That doesn't seem like a good reason to me, but to each his own.

As far as I'm concerned, Firefox is far superior to Safari in almost every way. Safari is slow and clunky and it renders pages quite a bit slower than Firefox.

And, Thunderbird isn't a browser, its a mail client.

Well, here's my reason for not using FireFox/Thunderbird: I'm happy with Mail and Safari and I see no reason to switch. Also, I try to avoid using beta software (and I always avoid alpha software).

 

[blue&whiteman]

safari is a good second browser but for my taste firefox trumps it hands down.

 

[mkrishnan]

I think this was metioned in another thread where mac OSX allocates more memory to even simple programs to make it faster. so AIM or Safari can take a couple hundred. I thought this is much better than PC's using only 14 mb of ram when you have like 1 gig.

OSX is smarter in that it just doesnt leave ram lying around or else everyone should jsut buy 15 mb mem sticks. Whats the point in having 1 gb if youre not going to use it?

Yeah, I guess so, but it isn't kinda amazing how much *virtual memory* OSX devotes to things? I have iCal using 100 MB of VM....what on earth is it doing with that?

 

[wrldwzrd89]

Yeah, I guess so, but it isn't kinda amazing how much *virtual memory* OSX devotes to things? I have iCal using 100 MB of VM....what on earth is it doing with that?

Remember, Mac OS X is pretty aggressive when it comes to caching data. Perhaps some of that VM allocation is being used for cache data that isn't being accessed currently and hasn't been recently used.

 

[itsa]

Does anyone else notice Safari bogging down, slow, and lagging in responsiveness after it runs for a little while or is used just a little bit? I'll launch Safari, surf around to a few (average) sites, open a few tabs, and Safari begins to slow way down, be very "laggy", etc. If I quit it and relaunch it it seems to be ok at first and then starts doing the same thing.QUOTE]

GarageBand does the same thing!

 

[mkrishnan]

Remember, Mac OS X is pretty aggressive when it comes to caching data. Perhaps some of that VM allocation is being used for cache data that isn't being accessed currently and hasn't been recently used.

I accept that, but (for instance), in the case of something like iCal, what on earth does it have to cache? If everything in my iCal can fit in my cell phone then why does my iBook need cache memory plus a few dozen megs of real memory to run it?

Then again, I guess the bottom line is that I have relatively little beach ball action, so I shouldn't complain.

 

[wrldwzrd89]

I accept that, but (for instance), in the case of something like iCal, what on earth does it have to cache? If everything in my iCal can fit in my cell phone then why does my iBook need cache memory plus a few dozen megs of real memory to run it?

Then again, I guess the bottom line is that I have relatively little beach ball action, so I shouldn't complain.

I have absolutely no idea what iCal's doing with all that RAM - I guess some of it is used for Mac OS X housekeeping things like caching the data needed to start iCal (or any other app).

 

[BWhaler]

On the Safari weblog, there has been a call for help with the memory leaks.

So I think Apple and the Safari team understand they have a major problem on their hands with the horrific memory leaks in Safari. (I have this problem too.)

Let's hope 10.4.3 fixes this problem. But given the call for help came this week, I suspect we will be suffering through the Safari issues until .4 or .5.