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Milan254

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I have Mac air 13 M1 2020. Reformat Mac 4x and the same thing happens either with OS Monterey or Ventura 13.1 or 13.2. Mac running fresh installation, nothing else on it.

When I run the speed test (tried few of them) with Safari and wired connection 1GB the speed is around 170mbps, install Google Chrome and speed is around 790mbps. Don’t understand how this could be and as I said I’ve reinstalled the Mac four times. However, running the Speedometer 2.1 Browser Bench the speed is about the same for Safari or Google at 350.
 

tstafford

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Which speed test are you using? I tend to use www.fast.com. But I think you have to take all of this with a grain of salt. For instance I have 1.2 GB Comcast which is wired in to my Studio after a long run from the house to the garage office (and it goes thru a 1 GB switch) yet I still routinely get results in the 1.2-1.4 GB/sec which seems sort of impossible. FWIW - Chrome and Safari are generally close in their results w/ Safari routinely returning a slightly higher number.

And Speedometer shouldn't be impacted by your bandwidth anyway. It's supposed to be testing the performance of the computer and the browser.
 

Milan254

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I just tested Fast.com 330, Whistle out 211, Speed one 156 using Shaw communications but 720 using Telus communications. Weird!!

Google is mostly the same on all around 750.
 

usagora

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Have you tried downloading a larger file on both browsers (the same file from the same site) to see if you actually notice Safari is slower?
 

Milan254

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Sorry I did not do that but I will definitely test it and let you know

I forgot to mention my second laptop is HP running windows 11 and both Google and Safari run at the same speed of 750. Maybe I’ll call my network provider and see if they have any answers.

Just called my Shaw service provider, talk to tech support and no answer. On their end the speed is over 800mbps
 

bogdanw

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Safari is working
safari.jpg
Disable iCloud Private Relay https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT212614
and Hide IP address https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/privacy-sfri35610/mac
 

Fishrrman

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I'd recommend trying the free utility called "Speedtest" to check your internet speeds.
 

Milan254

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Jan 24, 2023
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Update: No I don’t have Private relay enable on iCloud, however I’ve tested the network speed thru terminal (networkquality -s) it was normal at 711mbps, I also tested a large file download and it was the same speed between Safari and Google, so, than I disabled most of the Safari preferences and again tested few sites. Google Mlabs, speedtest.net by Ookla etc and all sites now report speed around 750, the weird stuff like Fast.com, Shaw speed test, speedone still report only 170 to 320mbps, so it is obvious it is not my Mac, my network provider or my settings, it’s just Safari on my Mac just doesn’t like some of the websites. At any rate, for all practical purposes the Safari runs the same as Google except for some weird? Sites. Good enough for me. It’s just beyond my knowledge to figure it out, but thank you for all your help!!
 
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bogdanw

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It depends on what server every site uses to test the speed.
If your ISP has servers registered for speed tests on speedtest.net and they are automatically selected, is like testing LAN speed :)
So, fast.com might be using servers from another ISP, maybe one that is closer to your location (small latency), but doesn’t support the same speeds.
 

Milan254

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Jan 24, 2023
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Make sense to me, and talking to my network provider tech support they should have mentioned it.
Just for curiosity, can one of you guys test your Safari speed on this website, “ Shaw speed test “ and let me know what you getting comparing to like Google MLab.
PS:I bought this Mac only couple of months ago, for decades only used Windows PC, and I just love my Mac.
The difference for me is the screen display and Safari look. I just find it so much easier on my old eyes.
 

Airforcekid

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Few possibilities:
Is private relay turned on? Safari going through Apple's VPN will be a bottleneck

Google Chrome is famous for not respecting DNS settings its possible Google DNS is pointing you to a more efficient server with better peering agreements. https://chromeisbad.com/ I would download Brave and see if the results still conflict.
 

Milan254

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Jan 24, 2023
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Update: So after couple of days of trying different things I came across several posts where people have problems with their USB-C hubs, (I only had the Amazon basic unpowered USB – C 3.1 with ethernet ) so I was going to give it a try, went to BestBuy and bought the Anker 8 in 1 USB -C powered hub. I also had to buy Apple 67W power adapter for the 30W adapter that came with my Mac Air 13 M1 2020 just was not charging my laptop enough due to the fact the Anker needs 15W power just to live. And what do you know all the above tests including Shaw speed test Fast.com Mlab, Ookla and Meter.net All!! Past with flying colors around 801 Mbps. Actually Fast.com on Amazon hub reported 350Mbps now reading over 900mbps. So yes, there could be many reason why the internet speed is fluctuating and all over the place and the hub was just one of the reasons.
 

HDFan

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can one of you guys test your Safari speed on this website, “ Shaw speed test “ and let me know what you getting comparing to like Google MLab.

Shaw 935
MLab 901

I have MLab to be unreliable, randomly reporting 1/3 the speed of Speedtest.
 
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