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macjaffa

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Right. Been using Safari 5 since the update,(and safari 4, since the mbp update) and there's a couple of things that really annoy me, I'll list them and would like to know if there's a fix. I'm using Safari as It's a pretty good browser, good OSX integration, Opera kinda sucks on OSX.


1. Pressing Back always seems to reload the page.

This is a major PITA when I've just submitted a form as it will resubmit the form data. I just want the browser to load the page from it's cache, as it was, before I went 'forward'. Opera does this. Pretty sure FireFox does this as well how do I make Safari do it? It's annoying as well if I click a forum topic, and see something else I wanted to click on, then I click back and it's been bumped off the page because safari has loaded the most recent version. If I want the most recent version of a page I'll click reload thank you very much.

2. New Tabs open beside the current tab, I want them either to open on the right of the tab, but 'away' from the tab, or to open right along at the end.

currently if I open tabs from a page called orig and have a second page called SECOND open it goes ORIG 5 4 3 2 1 SECOND I want either ORIG SECOND 1 2 3 4 5 or ORIG 1 2 3 4 5 SECOND How do I make Safari do this - it's driving me batty as after a few months I still go to the wrong tab. Especially since I use Opera and Firefox daily elsewhere

3. Make Tabs NOT scroll off the end, I want them to compress down in size when there is too many to show at once.

4. How do I navigate tabs using keyboard? I'm looking for somethign similar to Operas 1 and 2 keys

5. How do I change the location of where I want to save files, and can I set up default locations or action based on filetypes (i.e. I'd like to save torrents to my 'watch folder'

6. How can I find out the name of an image. In every browser for the last 10 years it's been a rightclick -> properties operation. Opera even gives you all the EXIF info as well.

7. I have a folder in my bookmarks containing some related websites, how can I access these bookmarks without going to Bookmarks->Show all Book marks? Can I not get a submenu folder in my bookmarks menu, or a drop down on the bar, like every other browser I've used since IE4/ Netscape 4

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Might have been a couple more, but these are the ones annoying me just now - please help me all you Mac OSX gurus.
 
Right. Been using Safari 5 since the update,(and safari 4, since the mbp update) and there's a couple of things that really annoy me, I'll list them and would like to know if there's a fix. I'm using Safari as It's a pretty good browser, good OSX integration, Opera kinda sucks on OSX.


1. Pressing Back always seems to reload the page.

This is a major PITA when I've just submitted a form as it will resubmit the form data. I just want the browser to load the page from it's cache, as it was, before I went 'forward'. Opera does this. Pretty sure FireFox does this as well how do I make Safari do it? It's annoying as well if I click a forum topic, and see something else I wanted to click on, then I click back and it's been bumped off the page because safari has loaded the most recent version. If I want the most recent version of a page I'll click reload thank you very much.

Is it that serious? How many forms do you submit?

2. New Tabs open beside the current tab, I want them either to open on the right of the tab, but 'away' from the tab, or to open right along at the end.

currently if I open tabs from a page called orig and have a second page called SECOND open it goes ORIG 5 4 3 2 1 SECOND I want either ORIG SECOND 1 2 3 4 5 or ORIG 1 2 3 4 5 SECOND How do I make Safari do this - it's driving me batty as after a few months I still go to the wrong tab. Especially since I use Opera and Firefox daily elsewhere

That can't be fixed.

3. Make Tabs NOT scroll off the end, I want them to compress down in size when there is too many to show at once.

Safari already does that. But at a certain point, it can't be compressed anymore. Then it just rolls of the end.

4. How do I navigate tabs using keyboard? I'm looking for somethign similar to Operas 1 and 2 keys

Shift+Option+Cmd+Left orRight arrow.

5. How do I change the location of where I want to save files, and can I set up default locations or action based on filetypes (i.e. I'd like to save torrents to my 'watch folder'

It's in the preferences somewhere.

6. How can I find out the name of an image. In every browser for the last 10 years it's been a rightclick -> properties operation. Opera even gives you all the EXIF info as well.

Why do you need to know? Just drag to the desktop.

7. I have a folder in my bookmarks containing some related websites, how can I access these bookmarks without going to Bookmarks->Show all Book marks? Can I not get a submenu folder in my bookmarks menu, or a drop down on the bar, like every other browser I've used since IE4/ Netscape 4

I can get a sub-menu...I have folders of bookmarks like Tech, News, Popular, etc. Just make a folder in show all bookmarks.
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Might have been a couple more, but these are the ones annoying me just now - please help me all you Mac OSX gurus.

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Reply in red.

thanks if I may go through them

1. Pressing Back always seems to reload the page.

Is it that serious? How many forms do you submit?

yes very much so. here's 2 examples:
1. I list the forum topics by clicking the forum title. Read them for a minute click a topic. Read it and then click back - the list of topics has changed becasue safari has reloaded the page. I want the page I was just looking at.

2. If I post a message and want to go back Safari won't let me as I will try to post the form again! - I just want to go back, maybe one or two or three times, i.e. back to the main page. In just about any other browser this takes about 1/2 second to click back thourgh but safari tries to load the pages again.....

2. New Tabs open beside the current tab, I want them either to open on the right of the tab, but 'away' from the tab, or to open right along at the end.

That can't be fixed.

That is very dissappointing. Basically it means the tabs 'move about' as I open them. adding them to the end means the tabs stay in the same position relative. Quite un mac like I think ?

3. Make Tabs NOT scroll off the end, I want them to compress down in size when there is too many to show at once.

Safari already does that. But at a certain point, it can't be compressed anymore. Then it just rolls of the end.
I just tried this, and they can be compressed more, but safari doesn't do it I have a window 50% width on my 1920 wide display safari will allow me to have 10 tabs before it starts scrolling.. This means I don't even know what tabs I have open. There is room for at least 30 in that size of window. again very disappointing.

4. How do I navigate tabs using keyboard? I'm looking for somethign similar to Operas 1 and 2 keys

Shift+Option+Cmd+Left orRight arrow.

Holy crap! a 4 button combo to change a tab? I don't think I can even do that with one hand.... are you serious?

5. How do I change the location of where I want to save files, and can I set up default locations or action based on filetypes (i.e. I'd like to save torrents to my 'watch folder'

It's in the preferences somewhere.
Sorry I meant When I click Save Link As, I can't find a way to browse my file system, I only get the default locations (documents, desktop, i disk etc) e.g. how do I save directly to my network as there is no network location there.?
Also no facility to filter/define separate locations for different file types - I've looked, all I see is a single download location and an option to open known file automatically (which is pretty handy)

6. How can I find out the name of an image. In every browser for the last 10 years it's been a rightclick -> properties operation. Opera even gives you all the EXIF info as well.

Why do you need to know? Just drag to the desktop.

Lots of reasons, here's a couple - someone posts a picture on a forum and sometimes, a clue or an idea of who or what or where it is may be in the file name.

I may be looking at a website and want to change the logo say, I find out the name of the file and the path so I can change it on the server, but I can't do that if i drag it to the desktop, and draging to the desktop means I also have to then delete it after, if it was just the filename I wanted, and what If I already have a file on the desktop named the same thing, will osx add a -1 to it?

bookmarks...
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OK I fiddled with it, I had the folder under the word 'bookmarks' Tried to drag it onto the 'Bookmarks Menu' entry , but what I needed to do was click that, then drag the folder onto the right hand pane. Working now:)
 
Command+1, etc. to access your bookmarks for your frequently visited sites.

Of you can just leave them open in a tab. Then when you relaunch, just got to History menu: reopen all windows from last session.
 
My gripes with Safari are:

1. How come I can TAB to another field to type, yet I cannot tab to checkmark a box, or remove the checkmark in a box? (ie login name, tab, login pw, tab, checkmark remember me ~ not possible?)

2. WHY must I open a NEW tab just to create a new Bookmark folder (in order not to loose my opened pages in existing tabs), then back the page to save it in that new Bookmark, why can I not do it directly in the save bookmark dialog?
 
My gripes with Safari are:

1. How come I can TAB to another field to type, yet I cannot tab to checkmark a box, or remove the checkmark in a box? (ie login name, tab, login pw, tab, checkmark remember me ~ not possible?)

2. WHY must I open a NEW tab just to create a new Bookmark folder (in order not to loose my opened pages in existing tabs), then back the page to save it in that new Bookmark, why can I not do it directly in the save bookmark dialog?

I found GLims which seems to fix a couple of the issues above, moving between tabs with , and ., tab order, and it allows you to have a option to create a bookmark folder in the bookmark menu, you may find it useful
 
The quick shortcut to change tabs is Ctrl-Tab. Ctrl-Shift-Tab to go in reverse.

To highlight buttons, links, etc, use Opt-Tab instead of just Tab, and you can switch this behavior in Safari’s Preferences (i.e., Tab highlights everything, Opt-Tab to switch just between text boxes).

jW
 
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