Safari Slower than Firefox?

[wrldwzrd89]

For me, Firefox isn't any faster than Safari, at least on the pages I've tested it with. I have NOT used the appropriate optimized build for my machine. When started for the first time (ever, not the first time after a restart), Firefox launches, quits, launches, quits, launches, and displays the browser window. Safari launches, delays for 1-2 seconds while it configures itself, and displays the browser window. On subsequent launches, Firefox behaves like Safari's first launch, while Safari comes up immediately (1 bounce, then the browser window appears). Also, Firefox puts a bunch of files in your user library - not all of them are obviously associated with Firefox (the FullCircle folder in ~/Library/Application Support is a good example), whereas Safari puts its preferences in the preferences folder, its cookies in a special Cookies folder, and everything else in the Safari folder - much cleaner. This is why I prefer Safari over Firefox.

 

[falcoboy7]

firefox is good for windows users

but im sticking with safari

 

[Steven1621]

Firefox is fast. Plus, safari has a wicked vile memory leak bug triggered by pages with tiled backgrounds. It's been around for a long, long time, and with every new release I hope they've fixed this massive, crippling bug. But it's still there. But even without safari freezing for 5-15 seconds on every page, firefox is still faster.

I find it to be the opposite. I think Firefox usually take 20-30 MB of RAM in comparision to Safari.

Another nice thing about Firefox is the multiple search options. I hate the interface though. ehh

 

[mcarvin]

Do you mean the main navigation area in the upper left, with the tabs MacOS X, MacOS, Windows, .... and the sub-tabs such as Software Updates? It doesn't obscure on mine. I do get a blank space where the top banner ad, which is directly below, should be, with AdBlock enabled. But I didn't really see any impaired navigation. Maybe you have set the ad filter as too liberal, and you are losing some of the nav elements? Or else maybe I'm not loading the site with the right ad....does it happen every time you go there?

The location you described is right on and my filter file only blocks out stuff from spinbox.versiontracker.com.

 

[mkrishnan]

Weirdness...for me it looks like the pic below, and my block filter is also

http://spinbox.versiontracker.com/*

It almost seems like, for some reason, you are getting one of those flash pop-up ads that pop over the current window but aren't in a separate window, doesn't it? The way it overlaps the other elements...

 

[mcarvin]

Weirdness...for me it looks like the pic below, and my block filter is also

http://spinbox.versiontracker.com/*

It almost seems like, for some reason, you are getting one of those flash pop-up ads that pop over the current window but aren't in a separate window, doesn't it? The way it overlaps the other elements...

It looks like they have extra hidden stuff going on which isn't playing well with my browser. Just below their BODY tag are DIVs for ScratchPadCOVER and ScratchPad. Contained therein is a bad IFRAME.

Time to contact VT.

 

[markjones05]

A lil off topic, but...

Does anyone know how to stop those three default tabs from loading and opening in the tab bar? Its annoying and I dont want them there. I like when apple opens as my hompage but the other tabs I could do without.

 

[madog]

Safari

I like Firefox and how it is that whole "1-2" seconds faster loading than Safari. The only things keeping me from switching are all my Safari bookmark's and cookies (I can never remember my passwords) and the fact that I have Saft. Which is another "What Safari should be" app.

 

[Timelessblur]

I like Firefox and how it is that whole "1-2" seconds faster loading than Safari. The only things keeping me from switching are all my Safari bookmark's and cookies (I can never remember my passwords) and the fact that I have Saft. Which is another "What Safari should be" app.

I beleive you can export you Safari book marks from safari then use firefox to import that file and you have moved over all of your book marks. as for the lost of cookies I dont see that being a big deal since all you really would have to do is just resign into everything. Also word of advice on passwords make some geniric password that can be used for all none critical stuff (forums and what not) so it is easier to remeber it if you can not keep track of it. that or have a bank of like 6 or so passwords that you use so you will not have that problem

 

[mcarvin]

I like Firefox and how it is that whole "1-2" seconds faster loading than Safari. The only things keeping me from switching are all my Safari bookmark's and cookies (I can never remember my passwords) and the fact that I have Saft. Which is another "What Safari should be" app.

If you like the speed of Firefox's engine, can live without extensions, and want keychain access, maybe give Camino a shot?

 

[mkrishnan]

Does anyone know how to stop those three default tabs from loading and opening in the tab bar? Its annoying and I dont want them there. I like when apple opens as my hompage but the other tabs I could do without.

Do you have tabbrowser extensions? That sounds like the only reason you'd be getting muiltiple tabs on load. If you do have TBE installed, then look at its preferences, under "startup." It looks like you have a default tab session set to load at startup. You can set it to start just a single blank / home tab, a default set of tabs, or the tabs that were there when it closed. I have noticed the last of these three options is very buggy, both on Mac and on PC, but esp. on Mac. When Firefox restarts, it always says the tab session is broken, and if I ask it to load anyway, half the tabs don't come out right -- they just come out as blank, and the other half of the tabs does load.

 

[markjones05]

Do you have tabbrowser extensions? That sounds like the only reason you'd be getting muiltiple tabs on load. If you do have TBE installed, then look at its preferences, under "startup." It looks like you have a default tab session set to load at startup. You can set it to start just a single blank / home tab, a default set of tabs, or the tabs that were there when it closed. I have noticed the last of these three options is very buggy, both on Mac and on PC, but esp. on Mac. When Firefox restarts, it always says the tab session is broken, and if I ask it to load anyway, half the tabs don't come out right -- they just come out as blank, and the other half of the tabs does load.

What are tab browser extensions i have not downloaded anything special to my firefox other than adblock now and some themes. I have the tab bar set to always on and since that is checked i get this mozilla support tab and some mozilla plugin tab that automatically open up every time i oppen a new window. Its not the end of the world its just an annoying thing that i wish didnt happen. Plus i hate when things are out of my control simply because I dont know how to turn them off. Its really just the principle of the thing at this point.

 

[mcarvin]

What are tab browser extensions i have not downloaded anything special to my firefox other than adblock now and some themes. I have the tab bar set to always on and since that is checked i get this mozilla support tab and some mozilla plugin tab that automatically open up every time i oppen a new window. Its not the end of the world its just an annoying thing that i wish didnt happen. Plus i hate when things are out of my control simply because I dont know how to turn them off. Its really just the principle of the thing at this point.

Try deleting those bookmarks if all else fails.

On a lighter note, the nightly I'm using now supports middle-clicking to open in a new tab!

 

[panphage]

What are tab browser extensions i have not downloaded anything special to my firefox other than adblock now and some themes. I have the tab bar set to always on and since that is checked i get this mozilla support tab and some mozilla plugin tab that automatically open up every time i oppen a new window. Its not the end of the world its just an annoying thing that i wish didnt happen. Plus i hate when things are out of my control simply because I dont know how to turn them off. Its really just the principle of the thing at this point.

Sounds like you've accidentally set multiple sites as your home page. If you went into your preferences while multiple tabs were opened and hit "Use Current Pages" for the Home Page under general settings, this is what you'd get. Try having only one tab opened to your desired home page, go into your prefs, hit the "General" button, and click "Use Current Page" under the Home Page options. Alternately, copy the URL of your desired homepage and paste it into the Homepage text box.

 

[markjones05]

Sounds like you've accidentally set multiple sites as your home page. If you went into your preferences while multiple tabs were opened and hit "Use Current Pages" for the Home Page under general settings, this is what you'd get. Try having only one tab opened to your desired home page, go into your prefs, hit the "General" button, and click "Use Current Page" under the Home Page options. Alternately, copy the URL of your desired homepage and paste it into the Homepage text box.

You hit the nail on the head. That was the problem, thank you. I hate when stupid **** like that wastes so much of my time.

 

[Mord]

ok i'm using my cube running safari 1.2.4 and it's sssslllllooooowwww, i have not used it for i while so i had not realized the difference as i usually use safri 2.0 on my ibook with 10.4 and i can honestly say it's a fair bit faster than firefox.

rest assured that 10.4 fixes the problem