Safari users, what prevents you from using firefox?

[kusanagi]

I acutally really like firefox, at least on my windows computer. The plugin's are fantastic, i'm a big fan of multi-proxy as i use my home computer for both work and home stuff and our work's internet connection is.. well crap!

However when using firefox on my ibook i found it to be considerably slower, and i dont know if anyone else noticed but it seemed to be a memory hog (although safari isnt much better) but after you had several windows open, it'd grind to a halt.

Safari handles tabbed browsing a bit better on slower machines than firefox did for me. Having said that now that i have a mbp i havn't tried firefox on this puppy.. yet..

 

[clevin]

here's why i don't use firefox as my main browser

i'm not interested in them

not interested

not a problem, as i only use Macs

i don't find this an issue.

i don't find this an issue

i don't find this an issue.

I use Safari because i find it boots quicker, it is more minimalistic, meaning i can view more of a page at a time, and it hasn't really given me any reason to switch to FireFox. FF is better than IE, but I find Safari better than FF.

see, this is what I was talking about, after you understand the advantages of firefox, and still find it doesnt fit you, there is absolutely no push for you to use firefox.

Im sure there are ppl out there who care/don't care many unique features of firefox, the more awareness of the options they have, the better.

Its a good job I didnt mention that gecko when it first came out in Netscape 4 (?) was so god awful it allowed M$ to totally win the browser war.

woops looks like I just have

I wonder how many people who say Firefox and Netscape are so dam good ever use them day in day out on a slow dial up connection as opposed to 8 megabit DSL

Its not easy to beat M$ in 199x... lol

I used to be on dial-up, at that time, the bottle neck of browsing internet is data transfer speed. Altho I have to admit opera has advantages in that case, it actually start rendering page before it receives the CSS. so the text will show up earlier than other browsers.

The interface is made in Cocoa, not XUL. Uses the system-wide dictionary. Can access the Services menu. Uses Keychain. Updates come through Software Update. Has access to the text-to-speech service. Drag and drop produces a ghost image of what your dragging instead of an awful looking box. I can drag bookmarks along the bookmarks bar and I can drag them off.

part of statement is not accurate and there are some other reason for the key-chain separation
, please read my reply at opera post https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/319119/

 

[nihilisticmonk]

I don't use firefox because of the big ass memory leaks it still has since version 1, the horrific design of the 2.0 theme (yes I know you can skin it...I shouldn't have to to make it tolerable).

Extentions are lame rather than useful, they're another example of "widget" fever...who actually uses dashboard in osx for anything truely useful...and how much was that feature hyped in 10.4?

I don't care about what browser I use, although safari is nice.
But as far as my rendering engine goes, Webkit 4 life!

www.webkit.org

 

[clevin]

I don't use firefox because of the big ass memory leaks it still has since version 1, the horrific design of the 2.0 theme (yes I know you can skin it...I shouldn't have to to make it tolerable).

Extentions are lame rather than useful, they're another example of "widget" fever...who actually uses dashboard in osx for anything truely useful...and how much was that feature hyped in 10.4?

I don't have solution for theme and supporting extensions, and I pretty much believe these are personal preferences since there are many ppl out there who love extensions. and personally I think widgets are different from firefox extensions. with later being much much more useful in everyday "internet life".

Memory leak, Im not sure if any browser is much better than firefox in memory usage, plus nowadays most ppl have 1G+ memory.

Sure sounds like firefox isn't your best fit.

 

[72930]

I switched from being a Firefox user on Windows to OS X. After about ten minutes playing around with Safari, I downloaded Firefox.

About four months later I discovered Inquisitor and switched mainly because of it. I had no FF extensions that I didn't care about giving up.

I still used FF as my secondary browser. Over the next few months I found more and more things about Safari that I love; for example the changing icon on my desktop, depending on how much of a download I've completed, instead of the icon of the completed file and a .part file.

Safari renders beautifully, and (even though I had a FF extension that kinda-sorta did it) I love the blue progress bar. Safari is much faster to start up. The main reason is still Inquisitor though. I did miss inline search though.

I got Camino 1.5 when it came out, and that replaced FF as my secondary browser, partly because its nice and fast to start up, like Safari.

Now I have Safari 3 beta, and the inline search blows FF's out of the water, draggable tabs are awesome, and its very fast. I love having a picture in the browser, or some text, and just dragging it to the desktop to create a file, or to Pages to put it in the document.

 

[janey]

Extentions are lame rather than useful, they're another example of "widget" fever...who actually uses dashboard in osx for anything truely useful...and how much was that feature hyped in 10.4?

Not really.

I can't live without Web Developer, Greasemonkey, Firebug, Platypus among others. Firebug is particularly important to me. I can't find anything even remotely like it for any other browser.

 

[Zw42a]

I'm really disliking the huge piece of memory it consumes. To much -too slow- restarts.

I'm still really liking it's autosearch function. Just start typing and *whoopa* you're searching!

 

[nihilisticmonk]

Not really.

I can't live without Web Developer, Greasemonkey, Firebug, Platypus among others. Firebug is particularly important to me. I can't find anything even remotely like it for any other browser.

Hmm, I've never understood the buzz behind greasemonkey, and firebug is a dev tool, not something a standard web browsing guy would use.

I guess I'm just not an "add on" kinda guy, I hate cludge in an app, and adding loads of 3rd party extentions is just not my style.

Safari suits me just fine, my bookmarks are on delicious, and any other useful thing I do with safari I do through a web site. I know self respecting geeks are all about the plug-in's, but I'm a pretty big geek, and I just don't care about them...

 

[72930]

I'm still really liking it's autosearch function. Just start typing and *whoopa* you're searching!

Camino has this, and its awesome, but Safari's search is great too, and I'm good with keyboard shortcuts so its not such a drag...

 

[After G]

I don't use FF on Mac because it feels wrong when I am interacting with the UI.

I don't have this problem on Windows and Linux (where I prefer Firefox), just on Mac OS X. Maybe it's how the different OSes were designed to handle mousing, clicking, drag events, text box selection, etc.

I am wondering if this is true with the Aquafied Firefox though ... I am curious to try, but am not near an OS X box at the moment.

I really like the Safari beta; much less beachballing. I've gotten a few more crashes than I'd like but crashing and restarting the browser is much faster than waiting through beachballs.

 

[clevin]

I am wondering if this is true with the Aquafied Firefox though ... I am curious to try, but am not near an OS X box at the moment.
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, i would recommend two trys
1. aquafied 2.0.0.3 build by some guy, I think I offered a link in previous post

2. try firefox 3.0 alpha for now, see if u like the improvement, remember it update everyday(on any given day, if u suddenly interested to update it and see what the new things in there, just use help->update, firefox's update function is best so far, just 4 clicks)! hehe, 3.0 is written in cocoa, using aqua widgets, I think it will look and feel more OSX native (and it is indeed) when it final release.