Safe countries to eBay iPhone to?

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by JayLenochiniMac, Jul 8, 2010.

  1. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

    Nov 7, 2007
    New Sanfrakota
    eBaying my unlocked and jailbroken iPhone 3GS. What countries would be safe to send internationally?

    Or should I only sell within the United States?
  2. bmwhd macrumors 6502a


    May 22, 2008
    My 3G went to Indonesia a year ago. No issues. My 3GS is winging its way to Thailand as we speak. eBay is a wonderful thing. In both cases, the buyers had PayPal verified addresses and funds were good as gold.

    iPhones are one of the few consumer goods that increase in value (measured against upgrade-eligible pricing, of course).
  3. dissdnt macrumors 65816


    Aug 3, 2007
    I'd stay within US/CANADA. There's no real way to get your money back if you get screwed internationally.
  4. makefunnyfaces macrumors 6502a

    Jun 12, 2010
    West Virginia
    I don't ship any of my stuff out until payment is cleared. When the payment is cleared, & it's in my PayPal account, I'll ship it wherever. I sold my first generation to someone in South America, & nothing went wrong!
  5. nfl46 macrumors 604

    Oct 5, 2008
  6. Pushkar macrumors 6502a

    Jun 9, 2009
    SW London, UK
    International Tracking?

  7. JayLenochiniMac thread starter macrumors G5

    Nov 7, 2007
    New Sanfrakota
    Horror threads like this make me nervous. How do you restrict buyers to PayPal verified addresses? Accept only PayPal?
  8. Eddyisgreat macrumors 601

    Oct 24, 2007
    United States

    Personal Extended List:

    Have done but won't again:

    I won't entertain anywhere else.
  9. Domino8282 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 22, 2010
    Southeast USA
    Speaking from experience (so you don't have to suffer what I did), I would personally recommend the following:

    - Avoid Africa, Southeast Asia, Russia, and South America due to issues with their postal system such as theft, loss of packages, etc.
    - Whatever you do, ONLY ship to Paypal confirmed address associated with the buyer. If they tell you "it's a gift for my sister's birthday which is tomorrow, could you please rush it to this other address," they are trying to scam you.
    - Only use USPS International Express as your shipping option. Although there are cheaper options, for the money it is the cheapest and most reliable (and most importantly), trackable service.
    - On customs forms, some buyers may ask you to mark the item as a "gift" or to lie about the item's value in order to reduce their customs fee when they pick up the package. *Don't do this*!! If you do this, you will not be able to file an insurance claim later if you have to.

    Just speaking from experience... When I sold my iPhone 2G, the winner was in Vietnam and pulled the whole "mail it to my sister immediately whose birthday is tomorrow" trick on me. I shipped the next day. Several days later, after I had already withdrawn the funds from Paypal, I received an e-mail from Paypal saying there was an issue with the buyer's credit card and (imagine this) I was responsible for paying Paypal back!!

    Just sayin', there are plenty of countries besides the ones I mentioned above - better safe than sorry. I just sold my 3GS to someone in the UK for $450 with no issues.
  10. iSaxon macrumors 6502a


    Jun 19, 2010
    Pittsburgh, PA
  11. JayLenochiniMac thread starter macrumors G5

    Nov 7, 2007
    New Sanfrakota
    Can they do this to you legally? Is there no seller protection from Paypal in this case? After all, you did ship to the Paypal confirmed address?
  12. TB07-NJ macrumors 68020

    Jul 7, 2008
    PayPal is strictly a "go between." They have absolutely no legal responsibility to you. If the buyers payment fails they can charge you back, put your account into negative and send you to collections.

    About 3 years ago I had $2000 taken from my bank account from someone is Russia (I've since setup an empty bank account to use which I transfer funds into as needed - but that's another story). I eventually disputed it with my BANK as fraudulent and the BANK reimbursed me but PayPal put my account negative $2g's and dunned me and sent me to collections as they claimed it wasn't fraud. Eventually it got settled after filing police reports and having an attorney send them a letter. PayPal then reversed itself and decided it was NOT fraud and put my account back to zero.

    PayPal is NOT a bank and is not regulated by ANYONE.
  13. Applejuiced macrumors Westmere


    Apr 16, 2008
    At the iPhone hacks section.
    There's plenty of buyers in the US.
    Stay with US domestic shipping only.
    Avoid the BS.
    Thats what I did.
  14. draz macrumors 6502a

    Jun 20, 2010
    Stick to US and Canada and you are good to go.
    Any probs when dealing with people in either country can be resolved easy and without much effort.
  15. Domino8282 macrumors 6502a


    Apr 22, 2010
    Southeast USA
    No I didn't ship to the confirmed address - that's how I got screwed. Needless to say, I learned an expensive lesson.
  16. Goldinboy17 macrumors 65816


    Jun 21, 2010
    San Francisco, Ca
    I've sold a ton of expensive items on eBay international.
    Rule #1: Make sure the buyer has some feedback. Just block new eBayers from bidding on your stuff, that's the safe way to go.
    Rule #2: ALWAYS use FedEx or UPS. Never ship internationally with USPS. They have the crappiest tracking method for international shipments. UPS/FedEx are excellent and will provide you proof that the item arrived, giving you full access to the funds.
    Rule #3: ALWAYS ship to the confirmed address.

    Follow these three rules and you'll be fine. As a note though, I do not advise shipping to Africa, China, or Russia. Those are the highest risk areas. All other areas are perfectly fine, haven't had a problem shipping to Thailand, Philippines, etc.

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