Safe to remove Apple apps that come preinstalled? If so, best way?

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  1. GhostMac24 macrumors 6502

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    Just picked up a MBA with a 128GB SSD and don't anticipate having and issues with space as it is not my primary (new 27" iMac does that) but just figured I'd remove the stuff I will NEVER use and need to know (1) If it's safe to do that; and (2) Best way to do it.

    For Example, I'll never use:
    Automater (15MB)
    Chess (11MB)
    Garage Band (375MB)
    iMovie (1.45GB)
    iPhoto (1.42GB)


    Thanks in advance for any replies!
     
  2. stchman macrumors 6502a

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    When I tried to drag Safari to the trash, OS X told me that is cannot delete this application.
     
  3. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Some apps are integrated into other aspects of Mac OS X. I don't recommend deleting any apps that came with your Mac. Instead, look for other ways to save space.

    Freeing up space in Mac OS X
     
  4. roadbloc macrumors G3

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    I'd say iMovie, iPhoto, GarageBand and Chess are safe to delete. I wouldn't get rid of Automator.
     
  5. cteselle macrumors newbie

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    This will work for any app that you've installed via App Store:
    1. Open up Launchpad.
    2. Click and hold an icon till they start shaking.
    3. Delete the ones you don't want by clicking on the X that's on the top right of the icon.
    You can't delete Automator and Chess this way but those are only 26mb or so.
     
  6. MacMan988 macrumors 6502a

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    There won't be any issues with removing the iLife software. I have removed iMovie and Garageband. But iPhoto is something I use most of the time as I have a huge photo collection.
     
  7. stchman macrumors 6502a

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    I believe this technique only works for apps that were installed from the App Store.

    The OP can open Finder, navigate to the Applications folder, then drag and drop any app in the Trash.
     
  8. GhostMac24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Why would iPhoto, iMovie, and Garage Band be integrated into OSX? I didn't realize the operating system needed them to function.
     
  9. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Integrated doesn't mean Mac OS X needs them to operate. It means that some functions are set up by default to use some of the bundled apps. It doesn't mean that Mac OS X will fail to work if you remove them, but some functions may not work.
     
  10. GhostMac24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Some functions of OSX? Sorry, I'm a little confused on this one.
     
  11. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    I didn't say "functions of OS X"; I said "some functions". Some apps that come bundled with OS X are used by default, such as Mail is used by default if you select "Mail Link to this Page" in Safari, or Safari is used when you click "Show Map" on an address in Address Book, or syncing photos from iPhoto to an iPhone, or other examples. That doesn't mean you can't use alternative apps or that Mac OS X will "break" if you remove such apps.
     
  12. Carl Sagan macrumors 6502a

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    Whats the point of Automator?
     
  13. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    This will give you an overview of Automator. Some may not ever use it, but for those that do, it's a useful tool to help with some workflow.

    Mac 101: Automator
     
  14. dusk007 macrumors 68040

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    Anything that doesn't save at least a few hundres MB isn't worth deleting completely anyway.
    Just remove the Icon.

    GarageBand afaik has some pretty big demo files that are really worth deleting. It is a folder apart from GarageBand that if you never use it takes way too much space.

    iPhoto and iMovie seem big in your calculations. They are smaller Apps.

    From the ones you listet I only deleted Garageband as I never use it.
    I don't use iMovie either but I might some day. I also deleted FrontRow as I don't really see any point in it.

    For the most part I just leave the stuff and remove the icons from sight.
     
  15. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    They're not, you can delete them. I deleted iPhoto, iMovie, and Garage Band to free up space and have not noticed any downsides from doing so.
     
  16. GhostMac24 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I pulled those values directly from their info screens.

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    As simple as dragging the application from the application folder to the trash or is there an uninstall program that is to be used?
     
  17. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    Dragging an app to the trash will uninstall it, but it won't remove all traces of the app. The most effective method for complete app removal is manual deletion:
     
  18. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    Check out uApp. That's a free uninstaller program, just drag the application into uApp and it'll delete all the other files for it that it finds.
     
  19. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    In most cases, app removal software doesn't do a thorough job of finding and removing files/folders related to deleted apps. For more information, read this and this. If you just want to delete the app, drag the .app file to the trash. No other software needed. If you want to completely remove all associated files/folders, no removal apps will do the job.

    http://uapp.en.softonic.com/mac
     
  20. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    It does a decent job. You don't need to remove all the files only the ones that take up the most space.
     
  21. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    The problem with many of these uninstaller apps is they remove smaller files, like the .plist files, but leave behind much larger files, in many cases several MB of files. If the goal is to free up space, nothing is as effective as manual deletion via Finder. If you want to use such an app, it's fine. Just don't expect it to completely remove everything.
     
  22. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    It sounds like you've had a bad experience with uninstaller applications, that's okay. Feel free to be very vocal about that, but I've found it to work quite well and it has done an excellent job when I've used it.
     
  23. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    No, I haven't had a bad experience. I've just taken the time to carefully test many of them, as evidenced in the links I posted.
     
  24. iBookG4user macrumors 604

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    Well, each person will have their own opinion. You've probably also taken the time to carefully test the consequences to removing iMovie, iPhoto, and Garage Band, right?

    If one never used iMovie, iPhoto, and Garage Band then you are suggesting that they must keep it on their computer? What, per say, are going to be the consequences of deleting them that would warrant you not recommending the deletion of them?
     
  25. GGJstudios macrumors Westmere

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    The results of testing are not opinion, but fact. You're welcome to conduct your own tests, which will reveal the same facts. As I said before, if you want to use one of those apps, that's up to you. That doesn't change the fact that many times they don't remove all or even most of the files associated with deleted apps.
    I said I don't recommend uninstalling them. I didn't say it couldn't be done or that Mac OS X would have problems if they were removed.
    I've already answered that.
     

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