Samsung 840 EVO running slow in macbook pro 2012, why? how to fix?

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  1. rs88rs macrumors newbie

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    I replaced 750GB HDD by 250G SSD (Samsung 840Evo) in Macbook 2012, i7 2.9GHz (Mountain Lion OS X). It runs very slow, and SBBOD appears too much.

    I was seeking support at apple discussion forum, but I got no solution except some opinions and "That looks like a problem with the SSD. If you hacked the system to enable TRIM, you're on your own."

    You may check my threads here and here


    Please share if you are having similar problem, or if you have found a fix for this problem.
     
  2. rs88rs thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Disk Test scores for EVO SSD on Macbook Pro 2012

    This is Disk Test scores showing performance of EVO SSD on Macbook Pro 2012. The Higher score shows better performance.

    Results 94.496
    System_Info
    Xbench_Version 1.3
    System_Version 10.8.5 (12F37)
    Physical_RAM 8192 MB
    Model MacBookPro9,2
    Drive_Type Samsung_SSD_840_EVO 250GB
    Disk_Test 94.496

    Sequential 130.149
    Uncached_Write 828.86 { 508.909 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Write 168.939 { 95.585 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 98.271 { 28.760 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 153.494 { 77.144 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]

    Random 83.936
    Uncached_Write 58.650 { 6.2090 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Write 338.478 { 108.36 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 1731.5 { 12.269 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 499.20 { 92.631 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]
     
  3. cbecklund macrumors newbie

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    I recently replaced my Seagate Momentus xt (500gb) with a 120gb evo and everything is super fast and (so far) hasn't done much beach balling as you described. As for "being on your own" with TRIM, I don't think thats the case as you can disable it again (I'm assuming you're using Trim Enabler, maybe theres another thing for doing that but I don't know). I'm not an expert but i'd try verifying (and/or verify disk permissions) is disk utility if you haven't already.
     
  4. rs88rs thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Disk Test scores (reliability test) for EVO SSD on Macbook Pro 2012

    This score measures the reliability of EVO. If the disk is perfectly reliable, it would produce a score 0. If the score is highly flexible, it would produce higher scores. Any score value higher than 100 indicates that the SSD is extremely unpredictable (unacceptable SSD performance)

    Results 39.96
    System_Version 10.8.5 (12F37)
    Model MacBookPro9,2
    Drive_Type Samsung_SSD_840_EVO 250GB

    Disk_Test 39.96

    Sequential 66.38
    Uncached_Write 6.71 { 6.71 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Write 82.70 { 82.70 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 51.51 { 51.51 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 113.83 { 113.83 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]

    Random 32.28
    Uncached_Write 119.97 { 119.98 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Write 108.95 { 108.95 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 69.35 { 69.35 MB/sec } [4K_blocks]
    Uncached_Read 87.03 { 87.03 MB/sec } [256K_blocks]
     
  5. Orlandoech macrumors 68040

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    1. Did you do a clone or clean install of OS X?
    2. Is the SSD firmware up-to-date?
    3. Did you do an SMC and PRAM reset?
    4. Is the SSD installed in the main HDD bay or the Opti-bay?
     
  6. rs88rs thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I did (a) clone using disk utility; (b) clean install; and (c) clone using Carbon Copy Cloner. All of them did not give me good result. The above results are from (c). (a) and (b) were even worse.

    I am not aware if EVO SSD has released firmware update. I bought it just 2 wks ago, and thought it is a new release.

    Yes I did both SMC and PRAM reset.

    It is installed in the main HDD bay. Opti-bay is not used.
     
  7. Orlandoech macrumors 68040

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    #7

    1. Can you attach the SSD to a USB3 enclosure and run speed test?
    2. Can you try it in the Optibay and see if the results are the same?
    3. What is your negotiated link speed in System Info?
     
  8. rs88rs thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I do not have USB3 enclosure. My usb SATA dock is USB2. However, I have tried Blackmagic disk test on it, and the SSD was showing results above 300 MB/s write and around 500 MB/s for read test. Though the test shows incredible speed, the computer perform terribly slow, because of SBBOD issue.

    I felt that the speed test was checking the data transfer rate between disk and mobo, and the results helped to inform that SSD and connector+cable are not defective.
     
  9. Orlandoech macrumors 68040

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    I would do a complete clean install of OS X via USB thumb drive or Internet Recovery to the SSD, after do a PRAM and SMC reset and see the results. If the are the same, I would RMA the SSD, if the results are the same at that point, I would take the MBP to Apple.
     
  10. rs88rs thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks for advice. At this point, I have RMA and hoping to see a better outcome.
     
  11. Orlandoech macrumors 68040

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    No worries.

    When it arrives, check out my SSD Tweaks for best results.
     

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