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"The scores aren't inflated, they're just on such a nice big screen that it looks that way"
a spokesperson for Samsung reportedly said ...not.
 
Don't think it's fake as such - just highlighting that if you compare like with like, the Note 3 has similar performance to a phone with similar specs and other phones would be faster if the same process was used.

Clearly something didn't make sense in the benchmarking and from now on, reviews will hopefully take this into account so that phones can be benchmarked consistently.. Which is the whole point of benchmarks

I think the point was that this was a deliberate attempt by Samsung to manipulate benchmark data so potential consumers would be mislead into thinking their devices were faster/more powerful than competing products. Any company could have done a similar thing and "unlocked" additional performance on these tests but they didn't...
 
Does this seem more of a feature only to me?
When a particularly demanding task, like a benchmark, is executed, the CPU releases more power. I call this "efficiency".
And these numbers came out from the CPU's calculating power, not from nowhere.. how is this fake?

How is this a feature when it doesn't release more power when tasks are demanding? It only does this when performing benchmarks. What benefit is that to the end user?
 
Higher than iPhone 5S

Anyone else notice that the Note 3's 'normal' mode has a higher overall score than the iPhone 5S? Per the results on MacWorld.com. I didn't buy Geekbench app and test myself. Only like 2 points though.
 
Phil is ****ing awesome!

No, Phil thinks he's awesome. "Can't innovate my a$$", then he shows everyone a trash can.


Anyway. Fat Phil aside, Samsung is failed on so many fronts. To even try this is shady. To think you can trick some of these tech reviewers is completely moronic and I hope they are thoroughly embarrassed by this.
 
Captain O'Hagan: I swear to God I'm going to pistol whip the next guy who says, " Shenanigans."
 
Pretty classless for company as well respected as Samsung. Why would they tarnish such a strong reputation with pettiness?

This isn't like litigating minor patents, this is basically cheating on a test.
 
No, because it is being over clocked specifically for the purpose of benchmark, and is not what the computer is actually capable of doing.

But they actually DID do it. I am not debating if they were overclocked for specifically a benchmarking purpose. All I am saying is that the cores did hit a measurable level and thus the device IS capable of doing it. It's just not within the unwritten rules (?) of what benchmarking is.
 
Of course, not a word about this scandal over at Android Central yet. I'm sure they'll try to spin it as no big deal or not report on it at all.
 
No, Phil thinks he's awesome. "Can't innovate my a$$", then he shows everyone a trash can.


Anyway. Fat Phil aside, Samsung is failed on so many fronts. To even try this is shady. To think you can trick some of these tech reviewers is completely moronic and I hope they are thoroughly embarrassed by this.

I'm sure you could have said the same without insulting. Manners and education still matter.
 
Yes he's quite good at whoa is me, we're the victims.

It's just business, man up and quit whining Apple. If you're still sad look at the billions you have. With Apple greed knows no limits.

What are you talking about? He isn't whining. He is educating people on the deceptive advertising of a rival company.
 
But they actually DID do it. I am not debating if they were overclocked for specifically a benchmarking purpose. All I am saying is that the cores did hit a measurable level and thus the device IS capable of doing it. It's just not within the unwritten rules (?) of what benchmarking is.

maybe you should take battery life into the account? every company out there can have 5000 geekbench points... with 30 min of battery life
 
I think the point was that this was a deliberate attempt by Samsung to manipulate benchmark data so potential consumers would be mislead into thinking their devices were faster/more powerful than competing products. Any company could have done a similar thing and "unlocked" additional performance on these tests but they didn't...

I wasn't condoning Samsung as I think they look rather silly now. It rather reinforces the view that Samsung only care about specs and not about user experience, since users won't actually see that performance. Like I say, reviewers will now quote actual benchmarks from now on and probably have a dig at them every time too, so it will probably backfire in the end.
 
If you're going to make an accusation you better have evidence to back it up...

I'm not accusing anybody specifically.

I'm also not trying to excuse Samsung.

I'm just trying to understand if this is really vile and suprising, in this industry, or if it's just another day at work.
 
And no other company has ever done this?
Many companies have done this and stuff like this in the past, and everyone of them have gotten their allotted share of critique. Companies like Intel famously tweakes their compilers to produce better code just for some benchmarks, and ATI and nVidia have had special drivers so that certain benchmark runs in certain games ran optimally. Some even critiqued Apple when they compared G5's to Pentium 4s.

In those cases the methodology for the benchmarks were clearly available, the parameters and versions of the compilers and what software was run and to what was compared. I don't know if the same can be said for Samsung at this time.
 
Stop jerking around. My comment was aiming toward samsung PRODUCTS, not COMPONENTS.

No one is being a jerk, you stated Samsung products. That means anything MADE by Samsung.

Either mean what you say or shut up.
 
maybe you should take battery life into the account? every company out there can have 5000 geekbench points... with 30 min of battery life

Why would battery life matter when measuring what the device is capable of doing from a horsepower perspective?

I understand your stance, but you're just arbitrarily picking things to measure against as a counterpoint.

Why not measure against how hot the device gets, too? Or how long the screen would last until it burns out? That's the thing about specs and stats, they can prove whatever you want them to.

Remember, when iPhone specs are announced, it's not about spec scores (unless the scores are better than other products).
 
Have you read the previous articles on this? Samsung engineers specifically added code in the phone's firmware in that it's sole purpose is to overclock the cpu ONLY when the benchmarking code is found. That's cheating plain and simple as the phone would either overheat and/or crash or reduced battery life if the CPU was allowed to run at those higher speeds consistently.

If Apple were also doing this, they should be called out as well.

Have you read those articles? GPU is overclocked NOT ONLY for benchmarks but for some selected apps too. For example, camera app is executed in the same mode. This looks like a primitive implementation of turbo mode where overclocking is based on app type rather than on thermal conditions. Obviously Phil is too dumb to understand this.
 
Does this seem more of a feature only to me?
When a particularly demanding task, like a benchmark, is executed, the CPU releases more power. I call this "efficiency".
And these numbers came out from the CPU's calculating power, not from nowhere.. how is this fake?

if that's how you define benchmarks it's not fake but then why can't apple run the screen in a special 'off' mode during video playback tests and claim 150 hours of video runtime?
 
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