Samsung Already Duplicating the iPhone 8's New Design with the Galaxy S8

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  1. MICHAELSD, Oct 8, 2016
    Last edited: Dec 11, 2016

    MICHAELSD macrumors 68040


    Jul 13, 2008
    Samsung is already full-steam ahead in creating the Galaxy S8 all the while basing the design off of Apple's rumored plans for the iPhone 8. It's being reported that Samsung will remove the home button as well as eliminate the top and bottom bezels: two moves Apple is likely preparing for the iPhone 8 due to be released next year. As Samsung's Galaxy brand is just an iPhone copycat, there will also be a dual camera setup on the S8.

    Yes, the iPhone version of this design won't explode.

    Samsung will debut the phone in February, a full seven months before Apple debuts the iPhone 8.
  2. noobinator macrumors 603


    Jun 19, 2009
    Pasadena, CA
  3. rijc99 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 27, 2015
    I hope Apple copies Samsung's lack of side bezels.
  4. lordofthereef macrumors G5


    Nov 29, 2011
    Boston, MA
    I honestly feel that samsungs bezels are the sweet spot if you're absolutely set on bezels. It's a shame the note 7 is having the recall issues that it is. By all other accounts it's a phenomenal device.

    I think it's pretty fair to say that this isn't strictly a copy of Apple though. We already have phones in production that are almost entirely screen in the front. I expect the market to just move in this direction. The bezel has no practical use aside from making the device larger to house more internals and/or buttons/speakers. We've largely had the same front smartphone design for a decade now. TVs made the change and it's about all you can find from the mid to high range models anymore.
  5. bhayes444 macrumors 6502a

    Jul 13, 2013
    If true, how would Samsung removing the home button be anything remotely similar to copying Apple when Google has been trying to get OEMs to use the on screen navigation buttons for years? If anything, this would be seen as Samsung finally falling in line with expected design. Also, I highly doubt Apple or Samsung would be able to eliminate the top and bottom bezels. Reducing the bezels on a device is usually one of the top complaints consumers have about devices nowadays. Just look at the flak the Google Pixel phones are getting for their giant bezels. Even if Samsung designed a phone based off of rumors, why would that matter? I'll concede the dual camera point, as the only other application a dual camera has served on a phone was to take 3D pictures. Hopefully Samsung can come up with a decent idea to put a second in there other than optical zoom or 3D pics. That dual camera application of 3D pictures proved less than fruitful.

    They are just rumors about rumors, hardly anything concrete. Other phone manufacturers have already produced devices that use one or both of these rumored "features". I don't see how any of this is really Samsung or Apple copying anybody, just refining and playing catch-up in all honesty.
  6. Complex757 macrumors regular


    Sep 10, 2016
    How exactly do you copy something that hasn't been released?

    Samsung has been reducing bezel size with each iteration.

    And some companies like Motorola already have buttonless phones.
  7. normanfox macrumors 6502a

    Feb 9, 2014
    Samsung can copy all they want but without vision and with rushing out features for the sake of being first, they will have half-baked product, as usual.
  8. Mr_Killjoy Suspended


    Sep 19, 2016
    Hate to burst your bubble of apple devotion there, OP, but if Samsung gets the device out first, it's Apple playing copy cat.

    Apple had their chance to knock Samsung out of the game, and even got the gift of EXPLODING FREAKING FLAGSHIP PHONES handed to them, served up like a pudding.

    And what do they do? Release the glorified 6SS, now with a finish that scratches itself!

    Please. I'm a long time Apple fan, but to sit here and act like Samsung is copying Apple based on rumors of what Apple might do? That's some strong kool aid you're drinking.

    Bear in mind - there have been rumors of a glass backed, edge to edge display, and integrated home buttton floating around since before the 6 launched. My bet is that Apple will be all disappointment next year too. Seems to be their style lately.
  9. normanfox macrumors 6502a

    Feb 9, 2014
    that is exactly why apple is so secret about their new phone. Samsung has deep inside info from supply vendors. so it is not that hard to know where apple is going.
    --- Post Merged, Oct 8, 2016 ---
    Samsung tried to be first on new tech but as usual, these new features are half-baked. the only thing Samsung has is best spec on paper.

    Software is as important as hardware, and Samsung doesn't even design their own OS. they rely heavily on Google for android. Samsung tried to differentiate their phones from other android phones by putting Touchwiz on top.
  10. areyes163 macrumors 6502


    Jun 15, 2012
    Even if Samsung were to come out with a buttonless front device and then Apple follows suit you can't say anyone copied. These devices aren't developed and made in a few months. The technology takes a while to develop. So why even argue. Just sit back and enjoy competition. Because in the end it's competition that drives everyone to be better.
  11. Mr_Killjoy Suspended


    Sep 19, 2016

    Samsung had one dud with the Note 7. In general their phones match the experience of iPhones pretty well - and you can check consumer ratings for that. To suggest that every device they release is "half baked" is simply delusional.

    I'm not even a Samsung fan. I'm typing this from an iPhone, with my iPad Pro playing a movie next to me. But at the same time, I'm not going to sit here and sip the kool aid spiked with Tim Cook's man-juice and claim other companies aren't offering real competition to a stagnating Apple.
  12. flyinmac macrumors 68040


    Sep 2, 2006
    United States
    Funny, cause lots of phones didn't have "home" buttons back in the early days. Not like removing them again is innovative. It's just removing something that was once added.

    Kind of like if some car manufacturer decided that they were going to use crank handles again on new cars instead of keys.

    Then someone comes out and cries claiming they're copying the innovative work of another new car model that isn't even anywhere near production yet.

    But the truth is, it's not new innovation or one company copying the work of the other. It is simply removing something that was once added.

    Now if Apple produced a phone that replaced the home button with a mind reading device that they had already patented, and after Apple's patent was published, Samsung beat Apple to market by a month. Then perhaps you could claim they copied something.

    But, the reality is that neither company invented the idea of a button in the first place. Buttons have been around long before we had computers.

    And likewise, if you want to see who invented the idea of not having buttons on things, we're going to have to consider that the cavemen beat everyone to market with that idea.
  13. ET iPhone Home macrumors 68040

    ET iPhone Home

    Oct 5, 2011
    Orange County, California USA
  14. normanfox, Oct 8, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2016

    normanfox macrumors 6502a

    Feb 9, 2014
    "match the experience of iphone?" really?

    smartphones are very competitive these days. it takes both hardware and software to fully integrate and work together to utilize battery efficiently in limited space. Samsung does not design OS and has no control over it. They rely heavily on Android and Google. How can samsung phone runs as efficient as iphone when Samsung has no software experience or control? Google and samsung are two separate companies, and cooperation between them is not as good as if they are the same company.

    two things that most android phone owners complain: battery and laggy, no matter what cpu and RAM android phones have.
  15. Mr_Killjoy Suspended


    Sep 19, 2016
    Have you ever actually used a Samsung phone, or are you just talking out of your ass like most internet experts?

    You can go to many sites and check consumer satisfaction with devices. Samsung is right up there with Apple.

    But by all means. Keep drinking that kool aid and keep pretending the company you worship is infallible.
  16. normanfox, Oct 8, 2016
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2016

    normanfox macrumors 6502a

    Feb 9, 2014
    I don't own samsung phone but I have android devices: Nvidia Shield TV and Google Nexus Player. I have experience with android platform. Nexus player is collecting dust, and the Shield is running Plex server. Android user experience is so horrible that I use ATV 4 instead of the Shield as my main client streaming device.

    Let't not even talk about updates. have to wait months or year to get update. how can you get the best experience/security with late updates.

    I have a coworker at work, and he just got a replacement Note 7. poor guy... He does not even realize that his second Note 7 is not safer than the first one. and he has two daughters at home.
  17. macrumors 603

    May 26, 2016
    I have loads of Android devices, which includes Samsung devices as well, and I have to agree that in the context of performance and reliability iOS is far ahead.
  18. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

    Sep 7, 2010
    Sorry, but this thread is kind of silly. Talking about the rumoured design for a Samsung phone that no one has seen copying the rumoured design of an iPhone that one one has seen.
  19. M5RahuL macrumors 68030


    Aug 1, 2009
  20. frankgrimes macrumors 6502a


    Jun 13, 2016
    So you are making a thread about 2 devices that haven't even been released yet? If push comes to shove Samsung has had less bezels since years now. Apple is the one sticking with big bezels and not offering any benefit at all to it (i.e. notification LEDs).
  21. apolloa macrumors G4

    Oct 21, 2008
    Time, because it rules EVERYTHING!
    These posts are soooo ridiculous, all you have are rumours, and Samsung rumours are notorious for being wrong, yet here you are making a thread that Samsung are copying Apple being presented as though it's fact!

    Can you not go and troll the iPhone forum with this? I bet your the type of person where if Apple use a curved glass screen like Samsung devices do, you'll accuse Samsung of copying Apple.
  22. The Game 161 macrumors P6

    The Game 161

    Dec 15, 2010
    If these companies bring out amazing devices why is copying a bad thing?
  23. flyinmac macrumors 68040


    Sep 2, 2006
    United States
    Apple copied Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Blackberry, etc. by even making the decision to begin making phones.

    They all copied a decades old design to produce a phone which required both a mouthpiece (microphone), and an earpiece (speaker).

    So much for Apple being innovative when it comes to phones. They're just as guilty as everyone else for failing to see past the now ancient methods of communication designed by Alexander Graham Bell.

    The reality is that nobody is coming out with anything shockingly new.

    Everything has already been done. It's all just pin stripes, styling, and marketing hype.

    Buy what you want. Use what you want. Who cares what the other guy is doing. Who cares what the other company is making.

    I use my phone as a tool. I care less about who makes it than I do about whether it meets my needs.

    I care less about what you like, who you're supporting, who did what first, etc. than I do about just getting through my day with whatever tools I have.

    I realize Apple has been losing some cheerleaders. But the truth is, if they produced what everyone wanted, they wouldn't need cheerleaders.

    Do I prefer Android? No.
    do I find myself regularly missing a feature that Android has? Yes.

    Will I switch back to Android? Who knows. At this point I don't even care. My iPhone 5 meets my needs.

    A phone is a tool. Much like a wrench. A wrench does one job. Do I care whether it's shiny? Do I care if it's original in design? Do I even care if it looks like 50,000 other wrenches? No... doesn't matter at all, as long as it loosens the bolt.
  24. macrumors 603

    May 26, 2016
    The fact is that not everyone uses phones as their tools. A wrench also doesn't cost close to a £1000 which is pretty difficult for some people to afford. A phone is way more personal than a wrench and people can't help but have a bond with it. Same as how some people bond with their car or watch.

    You may not be a phone nerd but a significant number of people on forums like these are and they do care about usability, hardware and software. Some people like me are in it from a professional perspective and some for pure fun of it.
  25. kasakka macrumors 68020

    Oct 25, 2008
    Interestingly, for several years it has actually been Samsung who has done something different. They started coming out with bigger and bigger phones when everyone was saying that 5" is too big. They added the pen with the Note, They came out with the curved displays and while they are still pretty much a gimmick they are a distinct feature and in the Note 7 don't seem to be something that harms the use of the phone (the Edge phones seem to have issues with distortion of the image around the curve) while allowing it to be slimmer in width (because that has a bigger impact on holding the phone than thickness).

    At the moment we are at a point where few if any phone manufacturers are doing anything to make them stand out. All the better phones on the market are nearly identical with only small details and software to distinguish them. Smartphones have become a commodity where a several years old model is more than good enough.

    I really hope that next year manufacturers dare to be unique. Not everything has to come in black and silver aluminum or glass in 5.2-5.5" size.

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