From what I've read the exterior on the S4 isn't larger than the S3, only the display. But I might be wrong.
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Samsung Announces New Flagship Galaxy S 4 Competitor to Apple's iPhone
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From what I've read the exterior on the S4 isn't larger than the S3, only the display. But I might be wrong.
This thing needs 4 cores to run and 2 gb of ram. The build quality of these phones is embarrassingly poor. Just light weight plastic junk really. IOS and the objective c sdk will make it tough for Samsung to ever be able to touch Apple. No wonder they had to put 1/2 a billion into creating some hype. Apple will win the foot race by building on more solid foundations, like unix and c. They will never need 2 gb to run a properly engineered phone. But people will be fooled by carrier deals.
I like the way it looks. 5" screen is a bit much tho.
I played w/ a 4.8" and a 5" before and surprisingly the .2" difference makes a big difference - a least it did to me. I'd probably max out at 4.8 tho.
4 - 4.5 would be ideal.
My 4S just feels...tiny...in my hands. Especially the keyboard. The iPhone 5 is just taller - doesn't address my issue.
I'm a geek when it comes to this stuff. I love the gadgets and new releases of toys like this. Cool phone either way.
I played w/ a 4.8" and a 5" before and surprisingly the .2" difference makes a big difference - a least it did to me. I'd probably max out at 4.8 tho.
4 - 4.5 would be ideal.
My 4S just feels...tiny...in my hands. Especially the keyboard. The iPhone 5 is just taller - doesn't address my issue.
I'm a geek when it comes to this stuff. I love the gadgets and new releases of toys like this. Cool phone either way.
Really?
So the only reason Samsung made a spec bump on their new version was because Apple did that? And what part of the iPhone 5 did Samsung copy with their S4?
Spec bump as in 4 to 4S or 5 to 5S? Apple probably wont introduce big changes to the hardware this year so Samsung is holding off that big upgrade so it can better compete with Apple next year,IMO.
I'd like you to think back to early 90's and then talk about apple logo.
You couldn't even give apple shares away.
Apple is only good when it was innovating.
Am I the only one thinking of "Lord of the ring/Gollum" when reading this?
My preciousssssssssssss... heh heh, you probably never work in high tech industry. No company that I know of intentionally holding off features especially hardware feature. The more your produce, the cheaper the per unit price of any hardware. So if you have a particular piece of hardware that can give you an advantage, you put it to the market asap. And when you competitor is busy copying your feature, you can move on and produce something else. That is how high tech company build on their advantage.
well its going to be "make it or break it" for apple later this year. If the new iphone(s) doesnt bring anything new to the table, and iOS7 is again going to be just a minor update like iOS6 was, i think apple is going to get into a lot of troubles.
You had me at M.U.L.E. - I really hope the port eventually happens. It's been in limbo far too long! And that soundtrack!
All excellent info. I, too, dislike a lot of what Android does because at it's heart the Android OS is just a fancy java runtime environment. Most apps are written in java so they do lag because they are bytecode not native code. But Android does support apps written in C with their NDK. Obviously, its much more complicated to create apps in the NDK. But they run very fast.
Another...
gimmicky piece of garbage with gimmicky features and now even more fragmented since there are more proprietary features. That probably means that you will never be able to upgrade the software since Samsung will just make a new phone (GS V?) within a year and make the GS 4 obsolete within 6 months.
gimmicky piece of garbage with gimmicky features and now even more fragmented since there are more proprietary features. That probably means that you will never be able to upgrade the software since Samsung will just make a new phone (GS V?) within a year and make the GS 4 obsolete within 6 months.
Totally agree. A lot of people were just kind of "blah" with the 4S to 5 "update". If Apple follows their tradition and comes out with a 5S this year that is the same 5 with just minor CPU updates, it's going to get bad for Apple. The iphone is really starting to fall behind the competition hardware wise now. The HTC One is a remarkable phone. This S4 is a remarkable phone. The Sony Experia Z is a remarkable phone. I dont think a 5S will hold a candle to these phones. And Apple REALLY needs to impress with iOS 7.0. It's going to have to be a huge upgrade over iOS 6. iOS 6 was a disappointing "upgrade" over iOS 5.1. And iOS 6.1 was a joke of an "upgrade" over iOS 6.0.
Huh?
Perhaps you'd like to clarify your post and re-write it as an adult?
Proprietary features such as? You know most of the features are also being ported to the S3? And there are plenty of features of new iPhones that are "proprietary" to new devices. It's called progress.
And if the phone does everything you want and need - who cares about what it might do in the future?
Silly post in my opinion. Just ranting for the sake of ranting.
This and a MILLION TIMES this. I feel like I was the only one that appreciated Samsung using professional or semi-professional actors to present their product instead of an hour of the CEO dude.
When it comes to the actual phone, i am blow away by the cynicism. It's like that one comedian says, "EVERYTHING'S AMAZING AND NOBODY'S HAPPY!"
How did we get like this? How did we get to a point where a 1080P resolution on a PHONE that fits in your hand is "crap" a "worthless update" "nothing to get excited about"??? When we can shoot HD VIDEOS with our phones and use BOTH cameras so everyone's included? We can capture ONE HUNDRED IMAGES IN FOUR SECONDS!!!
Seriously, WHAT THE @#$%#$%# PEOPLE?!??!?
Is it because everyone at this point is so brand loyal that if a competitor announces someone they have to respond that it's complete *****? It doesn't make any sense.
LISTEN PEOPLE: When you use such extreme hyperbole on a consistent basis to make your point that you are not 100% satisfied with a product, your words lose meaning. Do you get that?
I for one will be ordering the highest capactiy S4 when it gets announced for Verizon on day 1. I will enjoy the hell out of it and be AMAZED at what this phone can do. Then when the iphone 5s/6 comes out, i will also purchase that and be amazed at what the iphone does well.
TLDR: Why are so many people commenting on S4 stories hyperbole-abusing cynical bastards?
PS - the above rant comes after watching Engadget's hands on review, then reading it, then reading the comments then reading the comments on other S4 articles and finally this post at Macrumors. If the S4 didn't upgrade every single component of the S3 and manage to put it in a smaller form factor AND have industry leading specs in many areas (highest res screen, most storage available, highest ram, etc) then I would start believing all the trashing of it. But since it does, it makes me think we are dealing with rabid fanboyism and extreme hyperbole.
On the Android front, the HTC One is superior to this Galaxy S4 Samsung just unveiled. However, Samsung does have the hype and massive marketing dollars behind them so there is no doubt they will easily outsell HTC. I would say the HTC One has even better build quality and hardware design than the iPhone 5.
You raise very valid points. There is severe fragmentation within android community itself based on what brand of phone you have. Samsung share features only work with other Samsung phones, not Android in general. And HTC One share features only work with other HTC One phones, not even HTC One X. At least with Apple, features usually work with all Apple phones within the last couple of revisions. Like a lot of stuff works among 4, 4S, and 5.
Agreed - and has been my comment throughout the thread.
And I agree about the presentation. People complained when Android manufacturers never showed what the phone could do - but just relied on specs and/or robotic/sci-fi gimmicky promotion. The presentation - YES cheesy - had a throughline and showed real world usage. How people can and will use the device.
And I agree about the presentation. People complained when Android manufacturers never showed what the phone could do - but just relied on specs and/or robotic/sci-fi gimmicky promotion. The presentation - YES cheesy - had a throughline and showed real world usage. How people can and will use the device.
Break it? No. That famous Mark Twain quote about his erroneously reported death comes to mind...
Apple has enough iPhones in the wild that it will, at worst, become a Microsoft, churning the same customers every two year. That itself is a lot of revenue. But, growth would be seriously hampered, and yes, that is a problem, but not a sinkhole. The stock will slip more, but not that much because about half of Apple's valuation is in it's cash and cash-equiv assets plus Apple is virtually debt free so those a huge safety nets that will prevent the stock from going from below $275. It can recover from there.
Also, I don't think it's rational to think iOS7 will be anything but incremental. Forstall has been gone just months. Ive is a genius, but he's still only human. What I think we can expect out of iOS7 is a cleaned up interface w/ all those tacky skeuomorphic interfaces gone.
The misconception that phones are too big now a day are just lies. And the idea that consumers want a taller but not wider screen has gone out the window with the popularity of the Galaxy S3. I hope Apple can keep up, but so far they have not.