Samsung can sue Apple for LTE patents.

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  1. ARSC, Aug 30, 2012
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    ARSC macrumors 6502

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    Samsung could have the last laugh in its on going dispute with Apple.

    According to a report from the Korea Times, Samsung execs plan to sue Apple "immediately" if it ever releases any devices with advanced long-term evolution (LTE) mobile technology.

    Samsung holds just over 12 percent of the world's LTE patents, according to data from Thomson-Reuters, while Nokia leads the charge with 18.9 percent. Qualcomm follows with 12.5 percent and Ericsson has 11.6 percent.

    Apple already has an LTE device on the market - the iPad 3 - but observers think Samsung could be waiting for the Cupertino company to release an LTE-capable iPhone before making its move.


    Put up your dukes
    All signs point to Apple's next iPhone, the iPhone 5, having LTE capability, making it the perfect target for Samsung's wrath.

    The iOS-wielding Apple has even been in talks with Korean carriers about putting the next-gen iPhone on 4G LTE networks.

    Samsung would hit Apple where it hurts with an injunction on an LTE iPhone 5, expected to be one of Apple's most successful devices to date.

    Thanks to a guilty verdict in a patent trial between the two, Apple has asked that eight Samsung smartphones, including the Galaxy S2, be banned from sale in the U.S. There's also a pre-trial order to ban a Sam*sung tablet - the Galaxy Note 10.1 - on the books as well.

    Though it's unclear just how much Samsung will lose in sales from the ban on nine of its products, having to pay $1.05 billion (£665) in damages to Apple would certainly put a dent in its pocket books.

    An LTE suit - or at least the threat of one - may be just what Samsung needs to get its mojo back.

    Original post by tech radar

    http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ng-well-sue-apple-over-lte-technology-1094279
     
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    What's the deal with all the ***** on your post?
    And anyone can sue anyone over anything.
    Doesnt mean anything.
     
  4. cyks macrumors 68020

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    The difference being that anything regarding LTE would fall under FRAND. If Apple would have to pay anything at all, it'd be extremely little and there would be no chance of Samsung getting anything banned because of it.

    Software patents > hardware patents
     
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    what the heck is wrong with your asterisk key?
     
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    Why are there so many stars in your post?

    Did you get knocked out by a macrumors user?
     
  7. ARSC thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Some issue with it :D
     
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    I hope they can sue. It would show just how ridiculous all of this is
     
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    Just came in


    A Tokyo court ruled on Friday that Samsung Electronics' mobile devices did not violate an Apple Inc patent, awarding the South Korean firm a victory a week after it lost a landmark patent case in the United States.
    The Tokyo District Court's ruling on an Apple patent dealing with transferring media content between devices comes after a U.S. federal jury found last week that Apple did not infringe on any of Samsung's patents, while the South Korean firm had copied key features of the popular iPhone.

    The U.S. jury awarded Apple $1.05 billion in damages and it is now seeking speedy bans on the sale of eight Samsung phones in the U.S. market.
     
  11. Geckotek macrumors G3

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    You should credit your sources. You look like a tool when you don't.
     
  12. acorntoy macrumors 6502a

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    What if Apple looks at those patents and goes

    "Let's not violate these"

    And then doesn't violate them. Would they still plan to sue the second they release the phone? I don't see anything in that article but ************ and them just trying to create trouble ( the writer ) + if a patent is so broad that any device with a common technology (LTE) violated it, then Samsung would be required to license it to Apple.

    Most companies besides Samsung try to avoid violating others patents.
     
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    The difference being that anything regarding LTE would fall under FRAND.[​IMG]
     
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    If anything, Apple would be buying the LTE part from Samsung more than likely anyways so they would be compensated for each LTE part that is put into each and every iPhone.
     
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  18. Geckotek, Aug 30, 2012
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    They may have never approached Samsung to license it. Many patent infringements never go to court. And no, companies don't always avoid infringing patents, it's almost impossible. It's likely that it's impossible to build an LTE device without infringing or licensing someone's patent. They just go to market and build the risk into the cost. In the end, the consumers will pay that $1B Samsung ruling.

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    Yes, and the talk is that Samsung is waiting to hit Apple really hard (iPhone sales are much bigger). In fact, I'm guessing they would have left LTE lane until they lost this last case.
     
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    On demand all is ok now :D

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    Done !!
     
  20. MattInOz macrumors 68030

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    Who would trust a standard if Patent holders in the standard aren't willing to play by the rules.

    So the other 88% of LTE patent holder will rewrite the standard to remove samsungs 12%. Which then in effect makes those patents worthless. Plus they'd cancel Samsung LTE licenses on their 88% stopping Samsung from producing any LTE products. Which then make their shareholders sell the stock down another $12bil.

    That is the point of FRAND, without it the standard would not be adopted.
     
  21. ARSC, Aug 30, 2012
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    ARSC thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I may be wrong but 18.9 percent patents are with Nokia.
     
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    You still haven't credited your source(s). Are you too young to understand the concept of crediting your source or paraphrasing?
     
  23. ARSC thread starter macrumors 6502

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    It is already mentioned in the above post by someone

    Relax buddy.
     
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    Something is clearly wrong with you if you think it's all fine and dandy because someone called you on it and you still leave the OP uncredited.
     

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