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Samsung has started developing what it says is the first one terabyte embedded Universal Flash Storage (eUFS) storage chip, powered by the company's fifth-generation V-NAND.

Most Android phones include a microSD slot that lets owners upgrade the internal capacity of their device, but the new 1TB chip will offer storage capacity levels comparable to notebooks without the need for additional memory cards, according to Samsung.
"The 1TB eUFS is expected to play a critical role in bringing a more notebook-like user experience to the next generation of mobile devices," said Cheol Choi, EVP of Memory Sales & Marketing at Samsung Electronics.

"What's more, Samsung is committed to assuring the most reliable supply chain and adequate production quantities to support the timely launches of upcoming flagship smartphones in accelerating growth of the global mobile market."
In addition to providing higher capacity, the eUFS technology is also designed to be faster than standard solid-state storage and microSD cards, offering a 1,000MB/s sequential read speed and a random read speed of 58,000 IOPS, despite being the same package size as the company's 512GB flash chips.

Samsung says the random speeds allow for high-speed continuous shooting at 960 frames per second and will enable smartphone users to take full advantage of the multi-camera capabilities in today and tomorrow's flagship models.

Samsung began mass-producing its 512GB storage chips in December 2017 and unveiled the technology in its new flagship phones the following year. Assuming a similar rollout, Samsung's upcoming Galaxy S10 will likely come with a 1TB storage capacity option, thanks to the company's new eUFS technology.

Meanwhile, Samsung plans to expand the production of its fifth-generation 512GB V-NAND at its Pyeongtaek plant in Korea throughout the first half of 2019 to address the anticipated strong demand for the 1TB eUFS from mobile device manufacturers around the world.

As a leader in NAND type memory solutions, Samsung has been supplying Apple with flash memory chips since 2017. While this development seems most likely to affect the memories used in Apple's future iPhone and iPad products, Samsung's memory could conceivably show up in future Macs, which have become heavily reliant on flash storage.

Apple's 2018 iPad Pro models are available with 1TB storage, the highest capacity offered in an iPhone or iPad to date.

Article Link: Samsung Begins Mass Production of 1TB Flash Storage Chip Suitable for iPhones
 
I'm all for more storage. I don't want to have anything on a cloud storage. I want all my pictures, videos, documents I've scanned, notes I've saved, et cetera, with me on my phone. I like being able to randomly look at a picture I have from a decade ago. But you guys are right, apple will gouge us.

"It is as if you have seized me at the base of my snarglies!"
 
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1000Mbps (125MB/s) or 1000MB/s?
Huge difference.
It's bytes not bits.
i also have the same doubt, i think it is 125MB/sec do not think these Flash can reach the same speed like SSDs (different architecture, DRAM, Controller and multiple NANDs in the SSD).
From their website: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ys-first-1tb-embedded-universal-flash-storage

Relevant excerpt: "The 1TB eUFS also possesses exceptional speed, allowing users to transfer large amounts of multimedia content in significantly reduced time. At up to 1,000 megabytes per second (MB/s), the new eUFS features approximately twice the sequential read speed of a typical 2.5-inch SATA solid state drive (SSD). This means that 5GB-sized full HD videos can be offloaded to an NVMe SSD in as fast as five seconds, which is 10 times the speed of a typical microSD card. Furthermore, the random read speed has increased by up to 38 percent over the 512GB version, clocking in at up to 58,000 IOPS. Random writes are 500 times faster than a high-performance microSD card (100 IOPS), coming in at up to 50,000 IOPS. The random speeds allow for high-speed continuous shooting at 960 frames per second and will enable smartphone users to take full advantage of the multi-camera capabilities in today and tomorrow’s flagship models."
 
The first $1999 iPhone.

Not my thing (1TB of storage) but someone wants it. Why stop people from giving apple more money?
 
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Samsung has started developing what it says is the first one terabyte embedded Universal Flash Storage (eUFS) storage chip, powered by the company's fifth-generation V-NAND.

Most Android phones include a microSD slot that lets owners upgrade the internal capacity of their device, but the new 1TB chip will offer storage capacity levels comparable to notebooks without the need for additional memory cards, according to Samsung.
In addition to providing higher capacity, the eUFS technology is also designed to be faster than standard solid-state storage and microSD cards, offering a 1,000MB/s sequential read speed and a random read speed of 58,000 IOPS, despite being the same package size as the company's 512GB flash chips.

Samsung says the random speeds allow for high-speed continuous shooting at 960 frames per second and will enable smartphone users to take full advantage of the multi-camera capabilities in today and tomorrow's flagship models.

Samsung began mass-producing its 512GB storage chips in December 2017 and unveiled the technology in its new flagship phones the following year. Assuming a similar rollout, Samsung's upcoming Galaxy S10 will likely come with a 1TB storage capacity option, thanks to the company's new eUFS technology.

Meanwhile, Samsung plans to expand the production of its fifth-generation 512GB V-NAND at its Pyeongtaek plant in Korea throughout the first half of 2019 to address the anticipated strong demand for the 1TB eUFS from mobile device manufacturers around the world.

As a leader in NAND type memory solutions, Samsung has been supplying Apple with flash memory chips since 2017. While this development seems most likely to affect the memories used in Apple's future iPhone and iPad products, Samsung's memory could conceivably show up in future Macs, which have become heavily reliant on flash storage.

Apple's 2018 iPad Pro models are available with 1TB storage, the highest capacity offered in an iPhone or iPad to date.

Article Link: Samsung Begins Mass Production of 1TB Flash Storage Chip Suitable for iPhones
Nice! Seeing this coming in the galaxy S10 in February. In the meantime Apple still selling its 64gb iPhones till September/October. Maybe they’ll introduce the option at a starting price of two 1 terabyte galaxy S 10 phones.
 
It's bytes not bits.

From their website: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ys-first-1tb-embedded-universal-flash-storage

Relevant excerpt: "The 1TB eUFS also possesses exceptional speed, allowing users to transfer large amounts of multimedia content in significantly reduced time. At up to 1,000 megabytes per second (MB/s), the new eUFS features approximately twice the sequential read speed of a typical 2.5-inch SATA solid state drive (SSD). This means that 5GB-sized full HD videos can be offloaded to an NVMe SSD in as fast as five seconds, which is 10 times the speed of a typical microSD card. Furthermore, the random read speed has increased by up to 38 percent over the 512GB version, clocking in at up to 58,000 IOPS. Random writes are 500 times faster than a high-performance microSD card (100 IOPS), coming in at up to 50,000 IOPS. The random speeds allow for high-speed continuous shooting at 960 frames per second and will enable smartphone users to take full advantage of the multi-camera capabilities in today and tomorrow’s flagship models."
wow, great, exceptional technology work by Samsung. .

Great for iPad type devices, going to close the gap with laptop PCs...
 
I don’t believe Apple will use Samsung as an excuse to raise the price of phones, especially after Tim’s comments yesterday.
Well they did use that excuse with Samsung Oled displays in their iPhones X. The Samsung galaxy S9 with oled display is cheaper over here than even the old iPhone 8 with lcd.

Apple doesn’t have any scrupulous to ask you the jackpot price. And Tim is just saying what the investors want to hear. He has been saying that the Mac is very important to Apples business for years... and we all know by now how that worked out :rolleyes:
 
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wow, great, exceptional technology work by Samsung. .

Great for iPad type devices, going to close the gap with laptop PCs...
Yeah, I think this could also potentially be a key component in the mythical ARM based macbook. I'm getting all ahead of myself now. Anywho, the biggest hurdle will be this chip's real world performance and it's performance over time. But the tech advancement is definitely cool.
 
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Yeah, I think this could also potentially be a key component in the mythical ARM based macbook. I'm getting all ahead of myself now. Anywho, the biggest hurdle is will be this chip's real world performance and it's performance over time. But the tech advancement is definitely cool.
I wish Timmy would see the potency and shared the same excitement like you. I think his calculator is working overtime to see the potential in $$$ instead :(
 
It's bytes not bits.

From their website: https://news.samsung.com/global/sam...ys-first-1tb-embedded-universal-flash-storage

Relevant excerpt: "The 1TB eUFS also possesses exceptional speed, allowing users to transfer large amounts of multimedia content in significantly reduced time. At up to 1,000 megabytes per second (MB/s), the new eUFS features approximately twice the sequential read speed of a typical 2.5-inch SATA solid state drive (SSD). This means that 5GB-sized full HD videos can be offloaded to an NVMe SSD in as fast as five seconds, which is 10 times the speed of a typical microSD card. Furthermore, the random read speed has increased by up to 38 percent over the 512GB version, clocking in at up to 58,000 IOPS. Random writes are 500 times faster than a high-performance microSD card (100 IOPS), coming in at up to 50,000 IOPS. The random speeds allow for high-speed continuous shooting at 960 frames per second and will enable smartphone users to take full advantage of the multi-camera capabilities in today and tomorrow’s flagship models."

Thanks for clearing that up.
Very impressive figure.

This isn’t the first time MacRumors has used the wrong abbreviations for speed.

“Mbps” stands for megabits per second, meaning you must divide the figure by 8 to calculate the bytes per second. Macrumors, please start using the “MB/s” verbiage when applicable.
 
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The more storage the better, but gads 1TB.

Typically Apple charges somewhere in the range of $150 to make the jump from the base model 64gb to 128gb. So at that rate Tim Cook must be planning $10,000 iPhones with 1TB of storage

It's $50 for that jump on the iPhone Xr in the U.S., not $150.
 
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I’m surprised they didn’t make the ridiculous correlation to 1x optical drive speed. Speed = 6,667x
 
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