Samsung is baiting Apple to sue them

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And the point is? they are both rectangles, and the iPhone is the one that copied this time with going up in screen size. I don't look at androids and think that they are iPhones, but with the 6 and 6+ I'll see people with them and initially think they are android phones.
 

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Matching screen size does not constitute copying. Mimicking the look and feel of a device does.
 

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Matching screen size does not constitute copying. Mimicking the look and feel of a device does.

Honestly, saying that the matching of the size of a screen, like 3 years later is "copying" sounds really ridiculous. And yes, obviously mimicking the look and feel, is what copying truly is. Smh
 

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Didn't samsung make fun of apple in one of their commercials of the headphone jack being on the bottom?


Found it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJafiCKliA8
You completely missed the point.

The phone I posted came out 2 years before the iPhone 6. And gee, the iPhone 6 looks very similar to it, right down to the slight curve at the edge of the glass. Maybe Apple is baiting Samsung into suing them :rolleyes:
 

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How long does it take to develop a phone design. the iPhone 6 has been out 5 months. I doubt Samsung was able to prototype a copy that quick. Plus how any designs can a phone have. At some point they will all look similar to one another.
 

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You completely missed the point.

The phone I posted came out 2 years before the iPhone 6. And gee, the iPhone 6 looks very similar to it, right down to the slight curve at the edge of the glass. Maybe Apple is baiting Samsung into suing them :rolleyes:
How convenient how you didn't show the back of the phone, no the iPhone 6 looks nothing like it. What about Samsung's 132 page internal memo to copy the iPhone? http://bgr.com/2012/08/08/apple-samsung-patent-lawsuit-internal-report-copy-iphone/

 

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  1. Samsung had a design like that before Apple did.
  2. When all phones are nothing but black mirrors with a button on the bottom, how the hell do you suppose you diversify the look? They ALL look the same to me.
 

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Didn't samsung make fun of apple in one of their commercials of the headphone jack being on the bottom?


Found it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJafiCKliA8
"We shared photos by touching phones. As simple as that."

It is most certainly not 'as simple as that'.

Not relevant to this discussion, but that really annoyed me.

Back on point, I think they were mocking the people queuing (ie Apple customers) suggesting the improvements on the new model were mediocre things such as a re-siting of the headphone jack, not that the position was a mistake.
 

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So if the back looks nothing like the iPhone 6 what is the point of this thread?
You could say Apple STOLE the idea of the curve design from samsung (which I doubt) from a 2 year old model. But clearly the S6 was influenced heavily by the iPhone 6 with the headphone jack and speakers holes on the bottom. Did I forget to mention samsung now traded expandable memory, replaceable battery for aluminum case and glass?
 

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You could say Apple STOLE the idea of the curve design from samsung (which I doubt) from a 2 year old model.
Oh puhleeeez. If anything, all of your posts have proven so far is that if this was the other way round, you'd be adamant that Samsung copied Apple. Oh, wait, you already are... :rolleyes:

By the way, if Apple sued over this, chances are it'd be thrown out of court pretty much straight away. And why would Samsung WANT Apple to sue them? What sort of sense does that make other than absolutely none at all?
 

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Oh puhleeeez. If anything, all of your posts have proven so far is that if this was the other way round, you'd be adamant that Samsung copied Apple. Oh, wait, you already are... :rolleyes:

By the way, if Apple sued over this, chances are it'd be thrown out of court pretty much straight away.
There's been so much evidence of samsung copying apple in the past, how do you explain the 132 page internal memo? There are some die hard samsung fanboys in here.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/102317767/Samsung-Relative-Evaluation-Report-on-S1-iPhone
 

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Guys, guys. Relax. Unless you own Samsung or Apple, don't worry about it and just let the lawyers battle out this sort of stuff.

Just enjoy all the fabulous technology out there.
 

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There's been so much evidence of samsung copying apple in the past, how do you explain the 132 page internal memo? There are some die hard samsung fanboys in here.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/102317767/Samsung-Relative-Evaluation-Report-on-S1-iPhone
In the past. Which has already been settled. Samsung paid up. This isn't the past anymore. I'm not a die hard Samsung fanboy, I don't even like Samsung products that much. All I'm stating here is what I see as the truth. It looks like Apple copied Samsung's designs this time around.

Actually, I don't even like to use the word 'copied'. As I said previously, all phones look pretty much identical nowadays anyway. Big screen, few buttons on the side and one under the screen. Innovation first requires inspiration, and important fact I feel many posters on this forum need to understand. Even the original iPhone copied elements of other phones that already existed. A truly original idea that hasn't been influenced by actions of others is a very rare thing.
 

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And why would Samsung WANT Apple to sue them? What sort of sense does that make other than absolutely none at all?
and to answer your question, samsung has been known to bait companies to sue them to waste all their resources and money in courts while they continue using patents that's not theirs.

"The same thing happened with Pioneer, a Japanese multi-national that specializes in digital entertainment products, which holds patents related to plasma televisions. Samsung once again decided to use the technology without bothering to pay for it. In 2006, Pioneer sued in federal court in the Eastern District of Texas, so Samsung countersued. The Samsung claim was thrown out before trial, but one document revealed in the course of the litigation was particularly damaging—a memo from a Samsung engineer stating explicitly that the company was violating the Pioneer patent. A jury awarded Pioneer $59 million in 2008. But with appeals and continued battles looming, the financially troubled Pioneer agreed to settle with Samsung for an undisclosed amount in 2009. By then, it was too late. In 2010, Pioneer shut down its television operations, tossing 10,000 people out of work." - http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war

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In the past. Which has already been settled. Samsung paid up. This isn't the past anymore. I'm not a die hard Samsung fanboy, I don't even like Samsung products that much. All I'm stating here is what I see as the truth. It looks like Apple copied Samsung's designs this time around.

Actually, I don't even like to use the word 'copied'. As I said previously, all phones look pretty much identical nowadays anyway. Big screen, few buttons on the side and one under the screen. Innovation first requires inspiration, and important fact I feel many posters on this forum need to understand. Even the original iPhone copied elements of other phones that already existed. A truly original idea that hasn't been influenced by actions of others is a very rare thing.
You're right, it happened in the past, why would a company known for copying and using patents that's not theirs continue to copy great ideas (not just from apple, but any company), you're a genius.
 

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Sigh.

and to answer your question, samsung has been known to bait companies to sue them to waste all their resources and money in courts while they continue using patents that's not theirs.

"The same thing happened with Pioneer, a Japanese multi-national that specializes in digital entertainment products, which holds patents related to plasma televisions. Samsung once again decided to use the technology without bothering to pay for it. In 2006, Pioneer sued in federal court in the Eastern District of Texas, so Samsung countersued. The Samsung claim was thrown out before trial, but one document revealed in the course of the litigation was particularly damaging—a memo from a Samsung engineer stating explicitly that the company was violating the Pioneer patent. A jury awarded Pioneer $59 million in 2008. But with appeals and continued battles looming, the financially troubled Pioneer agreed to settle with Samsung for an undisclosed amount in 2009. By then, it was too late. In 2010, Pioneer shut down its television operations, tossing 10,000 people out of work." - http://www.vanityfair.com/news/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war
Do you realize how much Apple make in a day? Apple will never go bankrupt due to Samsung dragging out a court case. It'd be sheer stupidity to attempt such a practice with such a huge corporation. Even if Apple weren't making any money, they'd probably have to drag the court case out ten years before Apple began to see trouble.


You're right, it happened in the past, why would a company known for copying and using patents that's not theirs continue to copy great ideas (not just from apple, but any company), you're a genius.
But as previous posters have already proven, Samsung haven't copied anything design-wise this time. The S6 design is clearly based on a previous Samsung phone.
 

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Sigh.

Do you realize how much Apple make in a day? Apple will never go bankrupt due to Samsung dragging out a court case. It'd be sheer stupidity to attempt such a practice with such a huge corporation. Even if Apple weren't making any money, they'd probably have to drag the court case out ten years before Apple began to see trouble.
I was making a point that Samsung is known for using other people's patents and countersuing since you brought up the question on why Samsung would bait Apple into suing them.


But as previous posters have already proven, Samsung haven't copied anything design-wise this time. The S6 design is clearly based on a previous Samsung phone.
Agree to disagree, there are people that thinks the S6 was influenced by the iPhone 6, from the speaker grille to the charger port, headphone jack, no more removable battery or expandable microSD card slot. Samsung Pay is a nice touch too.
 

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Guys, guys. Relax. Unless you own Samsung or Apple, don't worry about it and just let the lawyers battle out this sort of stuff.

Just enjoy all the fabulous technology out there.
This. I have my 6+ which I love. And I also plan on getting the GS6 Edge. The thing is beautiful. Oh damn, guess I can't post here anymore.
 

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I see how the phones look very similar to each other. But, the iPhone 6+ was Apple blatantly copying Samsung.
 

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I was making a point that Samsung is known for using other people's patents and countersuing since you brought up the question on why Samsung would bait Apple into suing them.




Agree to disagree, there are people that thinks the S6 was influenced by the iPhone 6, from the speaker grille to the charger port, headphone jack, no more removable battery or expandable microSD card slot. Samsung Pay is a nice touch too.
Isn't that where the whole industry is going? No removable battery, bigger storage so no need for a SD slot. How many places can you put a headphone jack or speaker? The only one I know that has front facing was the HTC One. Look at the back of the S6 does it look anything close to the iPhone 6?
 

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Isn't that where the whole industry is going? No removable battery, bigger storage so no need for a SD slot. How many places can you put a headphone jack or speaker? The only one I know that has front facing was the HTC One. Look at the back of the S6 does it look anything close to the iPhone 6?
The S6 is the result if you took an iPhone 4 and iPhone 6 and mash them together. It's one thing if you take an idea and make it something original from it, but they literally ripped off a DESIGN of another product. The back looks like an iPhone 4 with the exception of that ugly camera sticking out in the middle.

What about the (new) white earbuds of the new S6? Can you tell by looking at the 4 pictures at a glance which are samsung and which is apple?







 

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