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Regulations, high taxes, corruption ...
That's why India is a poor third world country.

Who hurt you?
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They won't last as long, and if India becomes a dumping ground for other country's used devices then they have to deal with all of their e-waste in addition to what is produced from new electronics in the country.

The thing is, the moment Apple gets into the refurbished market in India, it will be the death knell of a lot of companies. Samsung will take the hardest hit. "General" population here does not know if they will like Android more or iOS, but the same "general" population sure knows what Apple is and what having an Apple means. So, refurbished Apple products will be like cat among mice.
 
I don't see any significant difference between importing a new phone vs importing a used phone in terms of environmental impact to India.

Regardless of the brand of phone (samsung, micromax, apple), isn't it more about how the consumer discards or recycles the device??
 
Regulations, high taxes, corruption ...
That's why India is a poor third world country.
You just moved this thread closer to the PRSI forum. Thanks for the racist stereotypes.
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Why not just make Apple agree to export any spent iPhone for recycling and have them set up the program.
Done.
That's what I was thinking too. If Apple sets up and invests in an environmentally-conscious used phone recycling/discarding program, it would be a rebuttal to the Samsung initiative.
 
Environment??? Apple is the most environment friendly company in the world. I would agree with the "Make in India" argument, but not with the environment. Maybe samsung and others just hate business and Apple.
Apparently those millions of cheapie $35 phones that likely don't last nearly as long as used iPhones evidently pose much less of an environmental impact on India's precarious "massive e-waste problem". :rolleyes:

There are clearly some vested interests hard at work here. Massive 'grease money' to keep Apple at bay perhaps?
 
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Regulations, high taxes, corruption ...
That's why India is a poor third world country.

  1. The problem with India in one word : Population. Having a good GDP doesn't matter when you divide that by 1 followed by 9 zeroes to get a dismal GDP per capita.
  2. Regulations are not the problem : every country on earth has them. However, the underlying poverty leads to the urge to make more money, by hook or by crook, which in turn, leads to people misusing/twisting these regulations and this leads to massive corruption.
  3. Similarly, high taxes has nothing to do with the country's development status. If anything, there should be more funds to provide for development, infrastructure etc. Developed countries like Sweden have high rates of income tax as they are more of a welfare state than others.
As a newbie poster, you should brush up on your Economics 101 before displaying your knowledge (or lack thereof) with regards to economic/social conditions and their underlying causes in other countries.

Cheers !
 
India is a great market for all used iPhone 5, 5s and 6 models. It's pure profit for Apple, if they can get this through, which will be great for shareholders.
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  1. The problem with India in one word : Population. Having a good GDP doesn't matter when you divide that by 1 followed by 9 zeroes to get a dismal GDP per capita.
  2. Regulations are not the problem : every country on earth has them. However, the underlying poverty leads to the urge to make more money, by hook or by crook, which in turn, leads to people misusing/twisting these regulations and this leads to massive corruption.
  3. Similarly, high taxes has nothing to do with the country's development status. If anything, there should be more funds to provide for development, infrastructure etc. Developed countries like Sweden have high rates of income tax as they are more of a welfare state than others.
As a newbie poster, you should brush up on your Economics 101 before displaying your knowledge (or lack thereof) with regards to economic/social conditions and their underlying causes in other countries.

Cheers !

He was actually correct. India's protectionist tendencies is hurting it's economy by giving Indian consumers less competition. Allow the consumer to decide what they want, not the government.
 
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Two things.

1) Wait, how does it make sense that selling used goods is less environmentally friendly than making new ones? In one case one devices ends up in being discarded, in the other two or more do.

2) India taxes imports at 300% all the while selling us cheap ****? And people give Trump a hard time about him wanting to put tariffs on the countries that are undercutting U.S. goods. I really don't agree with a lot of the stuff he says but maybe he has a point about this one....
An excellent point indeed...

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Early last month we reported that Apple was planning to sell refurbished iPhones in India and had submitted a formal request to the country's government in order to allow it to begin importing pre-owned iPhones into the country.

This morning, however, news has surfaced that major smartphone makers in the Indian market including Samsung, Karbonn, Micromax and Intex are actively opposing Apple's move on environmental grounds.

According to Bloomberg, phone manufacturers argue that elevated electronic waste levels could threaten the viability of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Make in India program, which promotes and encourages local manufacturing. Critics argue that destroying the phones produces toxic materials that could harm the country's precarious ecological balance, which is already struggling to deal with a massive e-waste problem.

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The opposition came in a letter sent to the Indian government by a lobbying group recently set up by India's Consumer Electronics and Appliances Manufacturers Association (CEAMA). In the letter, manufacturers argued that allowing the sale of used iPhones in India would not only negatively impact the environment, but it would also go against the country's importation policy.

"Why even consider allowing import of used phones when import of other used goods such as cars are precluded by 300 percent duty levies?" asked Ravinder Zutshi, chairman of the newly formed Mobile and Communications Council, which issued the letter.

Apple's initial application in 2015 was rejected by the environment ministry. The company's latest application has gone to "inter-ministerial discussion", leaving its outcome uncertain, according to the report. If approved, India would be the first territory with used iPhones to be sold directly from Apple.

Earlier in February, Apple was said to be close to opening its own retail locations within India, after having to rely on an "Authorized Mobility Resellers" program due to the country's strict real estate and zoning laws.

In December of last year, Apple cut the prices of its iPhone 6s and 6s Plus handsets in India by up to 16 percent, following a reported dive in sales. The move quickly followed Apple's decision to halve the price of iPhone 5s, from 45,500 Rupees ($688) to 24,999 Rupees ($377).

Apple CEO Tim Cook recently praised India's business environment and stated that the company is putting increasingly more energy into the country, which has the third largest smartphone market in the world, behind China and the U.S.

Apple has less than 2 percent of the market, in which four-fifths of phones cost less than $150. Branded smartphones are available for as little as $35 in India, yet less than one third of the population uses them.

Article Link: Samsung Lobbies Indian Government to Deny Apple Request to Sell Used iPhones

Apple is actually high on the environmental policies! Lets make India great again :) and allow Apple to sell used iPhones there. People in India will definitely benefit form these not very expensive used iPhones.
 
Hahaha, you are joking right.

Certainly out of all large capitalization companies that is true...
I mean, obviously "Joe's Organic Farm" might be even more so... but of the tech monoliths, they are by FAR.
Can you name a lot of other companies trying to create a negative carbon footprint??
It has been borne out... these initiatives do NOT save them money
The goal is genuine: leave Earth better than they found it.
 
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