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Samsung Not Interested in Settlement with Apple over Patent Issues
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An informed opinion can not be formed from those 2 pics cause they don't use the same scale on the vertical axis.
As far as German brands are concerned I'd have to say yes. In fact over the past few years it has become increasingly difficult even for Germans to buy new German cars. This probably doesn't apply to BMWs, Porsches or Mercedes. But VWs and Audis? They cost way way more than they've had in the past. Obviously this doesn't make them any less desirable but people have started investing their money in less popular brands like Opel, Citroen, Alfa romeo etc. The desire for quality and performance is still there but many people are now willing to settle for less than what the premium brands have on offer.
PS.: Over the past 10 years I've split my time between London, Frankfurt and Athens and I don't recall ever seeing a Lexus...
having just read 15 pages of this thread i have just thought ;
Why do we as consumers actually give 2 hoots ? is it the whole i bought x product so it must be the best in the world ?
If not why are people defending companies in most cases unless you are an employee they will not have heard of you , or care who you are or what you do ?
Just mind boggling people argue with people they have never met, over things they will probably never agree , companies get to have over $100bn in the bank and still don't give 2 craps !!
The whole patent issue is messed up , both parties are defending what they see as the right side , both its all just bull ..
My opinion , if anyone cares , is that both sides come out looking like douchebags in the end, waste bucket loads of cash, get some back off each other , and we still argue about glass or plastic cases on the phones ????
What a great life lol
James
Why do we as consumers actually give 2 hoots ? is it the whole i bought x product so it must be the best in the world ?
If not why are people defending companies in most cases unless you are an employee they will not have heard of you , or care who you are or what you do ?
Just mind boggling people argue with people they have never met, over things they will probably never agree , companies get to have over $100bn in the bank and still don't give 2 craps !!
The whole patent issue is messed up , both parties are defending what they see as the right side , both its all just bull ..
My opinion , if anyone cares , is that both sides come out looking like douchebags in the end, waste bucket loads of cash, get some back off each other , and we still argue about glass or plastic cases on the phones ????
What a great life lol
James
Patent business is the new iStuff. Great work from R&D team. You don't even need tech experts, you just need commoditized lawyers.
iPatent, iSue
Samsung are the largest corporate entity on the earth. Encouraging them against apple is like encouraging Goliath.
Do you understand what an opinion is?
Samsung does indeed have an R&D team.
Whoa. Samsung's newest flagship toppled Apple's year-old handset in one quarter in which Apple's newest phone had something like 9 days to sell.
Samsung's definitely winning.
Good Faith: Not issuing statements like "we will never settle" within 1 week of the HTC agreement.
Yes, yada, yada, HTC is not a threat. So what? It shows Apple willing to settle through negotiation at "this" point.
Apple will get the most in the end. I agree even more after todays filing.
http://www.fosspatents.com/2012/11/apple-points-judge-koh-to-new-federal.html
Try to remove the first year as CEO, and look at the Executive Reshuffle as the beginning of Tim's first year. There very well could have been stipulations in the Succession Plan involving certain moves Tim had to continue, or could not act on for 12m. We have no way of knowing but it would fit SJ's profile, and things have changed dramatically since the 1yr anniversary.
In the end Samsung needs to go more Buddhist in their operations. They are too caught up in Confucianism. Bad Karma for 2013.
So if you next door neighbor go into your house and take your food, it is not o.k. to fight back and get the food back? That is one nutty comments, Apple is accusing Samsung of stealing their design and IP and the court around the world are deciding if Apple has a case or not. That sound like a due process to me. So when Apple defend their own property, it is bullying and we defend our property, it is our right? How screw up a logic is it?
samsungs forum trolling budget must be higher than that of their mobile devices r&d.
silly. first hand tales are much more believable
and i find his story more plausible than you owning and enjoying any apple products.You guys are thick skulled, seriously, someone tells me Samsung is not the market leader in ANYTHING... yet I just pointed out the electronic areas in which Samsung excels and OWNS nearly the majority of market share. Does the Samsung memory chips have Samsung on them? Does Samsung TV's have Samsung on them? Why do you think samsung sells such high volumes? Its because their is a demand for their quality and effecient products! Just like the iphone... is that a cheap product that appeals to the masses? Nope, people recognize a quality product. The free market dictates which of the strong will survive. The bottom line is, Samsung sells memories and screens, they reap the profits, they reinvest and continue to innovate.
Those arguing if samsung even has an R&D department... YES THEY DO, they actually invested three times more money than Apple this year. Why do you guys continue to ignore that samsung gets awarded WAY more patents in the US! Its not close, has not been for the last 10 years. You guys can hate on Samsung all you want, but nobody has rebutted the fact that Apple does NOTHING for the US economy except take consumer's money, does not pay much taxes, refused to build any jobs for us, stifles competition, etc.
Those arguing if samsung even has an R&D department... YES THEY DO, they actually invested three times more money than Apple this year. Why do you guys continue to ignore that samsung gets awarded WAY more patents in the US! Its not close, has not been for the last 10 years. You guys can hate on Samsung all you want, but nobody has rebutted the fact that Apple does NOTHING for the US economy except take consumer's money, does not pay much taxes, refused to build any jobs for us, stifles competition, etc.
Just because it was already invented it doesnt mean you can't reinvent its implementation. Where exactly were touch based products when Microsoft came up with it? By your logic it's like saying "oh computer sotware operating systems were already invented before Microsoft, therefore you can't reinvent operating systems and the way its implemented in computers".
"Lol" I love your condescending comment based on baseless arguments. Truly shows your level of comprehension.
And that is known as "practicing a patent"? Really?
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As far as German brands are concerned I'd have to say yes. In fact over the past few years it has become increasingly difficult even for Germans to buy new German cars. This probably doesn't apply to BMWs, Porsches or Mercedes. But VWs and Audis? They cost way way more than they've had in the past. Obviously this doesn't make them any less desirable but people have started investing their money in less popular brands like Opel, Citroen, Alfa romeo etc. The desire for quality and performance is still there but many people are now willing to settle for less than what the premium brands have on offer.
PS.: Over the past 10 years I've split my time between London, Frankfurt and Athens and I don't recall ever seeing a Lexus...
The fruits of socialist policies. They have fairness and equality. In other words most everyone is equally poor.
Lets put it this way apples products are more steadier than Samsungs much like Apple case in court.
Seriously? I'm sorry, but Apple is the 21st century. You need to look beyond the US and see the big picture, here. Without Apple, we'd still be using phones the old fashioned way. Apple's contribution was to leverage technology to connect everyone and everything.
That's what this is really about, and what android fans like you don't get. I honestly hope it's illegal to own anything but an Apple phone one day. I really do. Apple invented this technology and all parasites like Samsung can do is steal from them.
Sometimes Apple buys up (or ties up) other companies, so no one else can use their patents (or products). A couple of major examples:
In 2010, Apple bought perpetual exclusivity to use Liquid Metal for consumer electronics, thus denying it to companies like Samsung who had actually been using LM since 2004 in their phones. So far, Apple hasn't used it except for the SIM eject tool.
In 2005, Apple bought Fingerworks because of their multi-touch research, and shut down their product line. This meant the company's unique ergonomic products were no longer available (except used at high prices) to people with hand stress injuries. A loss for the public.
It's preferable that such patents/products be licensed out, than never used. In other words, sometimes paying a troll is better than having the bridge totally blocked.
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Actually I thought the old Samsung phones were rip offs of the iPhone, and the front of their first tablets. But since then, their software and hardware doesn't look like the iPhone or iOS (and thank god for that because iOS is so boring). I have no irrational hatred towards Samsung, or any other company for that matter. It doesn't affect me at all and if I don't approve of their products or practices I just won't buy their products.
Actually Apple has been the company that has irritated me recently. For me, their iPhone and iOS has been stagnant for awhile now so their constant litigations are pretty annoying (especially the ones about the stylus patents that Apple has no plans to bring to market (this is an assumption but a pretty safe one to make).
I'll always have a soft spot for Apple but I won't support what I believe are unwise decisions. Blind following is never a good thing. Its ok to call Apple out on their **** if they become too comfortable, which I believe they are.
Wow your tirade was quite exhausting to read. Stop being so emotional about something that really has no beating in your life. If you allow what companies do as a business to get you so upset you will always be an angry person. It's ok to express your dislike for something. Just keep it in perspective that in the end, it doesn't really matter.
0 dollars.
Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, LG, ect. Don't care about sites like this, the impact a place like this has on a companies sales is pretty much nothing. The average consumer does not come here.
I would fall into owning a Samsung Phone, a SIII, which I like very much, I personally think its a better phone than the IP5, but thats just my opinion ( I perfer the larger screen, and I prefer Android to iOS at this point in time, and swappable batteries is a must for me ).
Lots of people here don't own, nor have interest in owning an iDevice, but they do own this thing called a Mac, I have a bunch of Macs....so I come here....hence the name... MacRumors....
I agree that he's sort of exaggerating, but Samsung has been able to find a market where Apple has not. And that market is pretty large, apparently.
I wonder if apple really knows what theyve done, embarrassing several chaebol execs in front of the world like that... this isnt probably going to be over for a long while...
Um, how was that wrong? It's the NOMAD Jukebox, right?
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Actually, I do. By volume, it's roughly 0.8% of my iPhone 5. 1 chip.
According to iFixit, if we were to credit the majority of my iPhone to a company other than Apple..... it'd be Sony. (battery.)