Samsung Note 8 Camera Features v iOS

[GadgetGeek407]

Let me start by saying I am not a fan of android at all but I do love the screens, hence why I am excited about iphone 8. I do think however samsung always offers better options on what their camera software is able to do as displayed on their new device announced today.

I think it would be totally amazing if Apple offered the live photo feature before and after the pic but I think the dual capture is a very nice feature and can be very handy, no mention of these in iOS11 but they may add it?

Being that iPhone screens have been outdated for some time but still manage to look beautiful, how much of a difference will the naked eye see when they switch screen tech on the iphone 8?

 

[akash.nu]

You see the major difference between Apple & Samsung is that Samsung likes to cram in anything & everything on their devices whereas Apple chooses what works the best & is actually useful for most users and ensures the stability of that feature. Personally I don't see the use of that dual image capture option at all. Very few people would actually use it on a regular basis.

 

[ANTAWNM26]

You see the major difference between Apple & Samsung is that Samsung likes to cram in anything & everything on their devices whereas Apple chooses what works the best & is actually useful for most users and ensures the stability of that feature. Personally I don't see the use of that dual image capture option at all. Very few people would actually use it on a regular basis.

Lol. That was your answer? Would that have changed if apple introduced first ? Did you see yourself using portrait mode trick ? Come on really? He didn't ask about the difference between the two

 

[I7guy]

Let me start by saying I am not a fan of android at all but I do love the screens, hence why I am excited about iphone 8. I do think however samsung always offers better options on what their camera software is able to do as displayed on their new device announced today.

I think it would be totally amazing if Apple offered the live photo feature before and after the pic but I think the dual capture is a very nice feature and can be very handy, no mention of these in iOS11 but they may add it?

Being that iPhone screens have been outdated for some time but still manage to look beautiful, how much of a difference will the naked eye see when they switch screen tech on the iphone 8?

What features are you referring to? Doesn't seem the thread title and the opening post are the same topic.

 

[RSmith2023]

You see the major difference between Apple & Samsung is that Samsung likes to cram in anything & everything on their devices whereas Apple chooses what works the best & is actually useful for most users and ensures the stability of that feature. Personally I don't see the use of that dual image capture option at all. Very few people would actually use it on a regular basis.

I have to respectfully disagree with you on that. Apple is notorious for taking long periods of time to implement changes that the majority of it's users want and loudly scream for. (larger screens, apple pencil, more RAM, FINALLY OLED screens) Apple has it's hardware progression mapped out for the next 2-3 years and they stick to it. Part of this is so that they can attempt to perfect the implementation, but mostly it is so Apple can get the production costs down to avoid eating into their healthy margins since these phones currently can't go too much higher in price. Handset sales took a dive when the carriers stopped subsidizing cell phones and went to a zero interest lease to own model. In fact, Apple was so alarmed that they started offering direct lease options themselves to keep the phone in the hands of most people who can't afford to buy them outright. But I digress...

We live in the selfie world now. Dual capture will be big and you'll see others copying this as soon as they can. Let's remember, dual capture allows for dual VIDEO capture as well and it works very well since the Note 8 has 6 gigs of ram. That alone will be big. I think Samsung is getting close to getting the whole "desktop replacement" angle right as well with that DEX feature.

I hope Apple made some camera updates we haven't gotten word of yet (across the board on the "8" as well as the 7s and 7s plus). In agreement with the OP, Samsung has Apple beat hands down on camera and screen right now.

 

[akash.nu]

Lol. That was your answer? Would that have changed if apple introduced first ? Did you see yourself using portrait mode trick ? Come on really? He didn't ask about the difference between the two

I'd still have said the same thing. Generally, when it comes to implementing a feature, Apple comes with solid use cases rather than randomly putting something in. The dual capture option has no use in real world.

Coming to think of the portrait mode, they implemented it because of the selfie craze these days. There's a solid use case behind that feature. It's not the same.

Ps. I'm not a blind Apple follower. I appreciate good design and implementation. My response was in line to voice my opinion about Samsung's tendency of implementing pointless crap.

 

[akash.nu]

I have to respectfully disagree with you on that. Apple is notorious for taking long periods of time to implement changes that the majority of it's users want and loudly scream for. (larger screens, apple pencil, more RAM, FINALLY OLED screens) Apple has it's hardware progression mapped out for the next 2-3 years and they stick to it. Part of this is so that they can attempt to perfect the implementation, but mostly it is so Apple can get the production costs down to avoid eating into their healthy margins since these phones currently can't go too much higher in price. Handset sales took a dive when the carriers stopped subsidizing cell phones and went to a zero interest lease to own model. In fact, Apple was so alarmed that they started offering direct lease options themselves to keep the phone in the hands of most people who can't afford to buy them outright. But I digress...

Of course a company like Apple or even Samsung or any other big manufacturing giants have got their plans sorted for the next couple of years at least. Consumers ask for a lot of things, if companies start to just listen to them then it won't take too long for them to go under.

Apple waits for a technology to be perfected before trying to integrate within their ecosystem. Starting from the iPod era, Apple never focussed on delivering hardware without having everything else sorted properly. They implemented Touch ID after the whole android market was almost done with them but their implementation and integration was the best within the ecosystem.

Also, I agree with their business strategy in general. The smartphone market is saturated now. They need to come up with technologies that work seamlessly rather than bragging about some crap that doesn't even work properly.

We live in the selfie world now. Dual capture will be big and you'll see others copying this as soon as they can. Let's remember, dual capture allows for dual VIDEO capture as well and it works very well since the Note 8 has 6 gigs of ram. That alone will be big. I think Samsung is getting close to getting the whole "desktop replacement" angle right as well with that DEX feature.

So who's really asking for their smartphones to replace their desktop computers?

Also, I'd like to know a real use case where you need duplicate images and videos please.

I hope Apple made some camera updates we haven't gotten word of yet (across the board on the "8" as well as the 7s and 7s plus). In agreement with the OP, Samsung has Apple beat hands down on camera and screen right now.

I agree with this, I hope they come up with some new features for the camera in terms of both hardware and software.

 

[RSmith2023]

What features are you referring to? Doesn't seem the thread title and the opening post are the same topic.

Samsung's "Live Photo" is similar to Apple's "Depth Effect" in that using the dual cameras you get a focused subject in the foreground and the background is blurred. Where Samsung is different is that the Note 8 allows you to manually adjust the amount of blur both before and after you take the picture.

The "Dual Capture" feature allows you to simultaneously capture images from both the front and rear cameras. While a simple picture may not be all that impressive, this feature also allows for simultaneous capture of VIDEO. (made possible by the 6 gigs of RAM stuffed into the Note 8) This is will be big. (Think of all the times you see people taking "selfie crowd" videos)

Add to that is that Samsung has long had Apple beat (in my humble opinion) with their flash photography. The "True Tone" flash by Apple just doesn't illuminate well enough past a couple of feet.

 

[the future]

Portrait mode adressed a significant disadvantage smartphone cameras have (had) vs "real" (system) cameras, the ability to shoot nice portraits with background bokeh. Dual capture does not. It's just a stupid gimmick and actually a very un- or anti-photographic feature as framing is one of the core (creative) decisions of taking a picture. In other words, typical Samsung feature bloat, i.e. doing something just because they can, not because it makes any sense.

I'll reserve judgement wrt to "Live Focus" as the quality of the produced bokeh will need to be examined and compared to iPhone 7 Plus and the forthcoming 8/Edition.

 

[I7guy]

Samsung's "Live Photo" is similar to Apple's "Depth Effect" in that using the dual cameras you get a focused subject in the foreground and the background is blurred. Where Samsung is different is that the Note 8 allows you to manually adjust the amount of blur both before and after you take the picture.

The "Dual Capture" feature allows you to simultaneously capture images from both the front and rear cameras. While a simple picture may not be all that impressive, this feature also allows for simultaneous capture of VIDEO. (made possible by the 6 gigs of RAM stuffed into the Note 8) This is will be big. (Think of all the times you see people taking "selfie crowd" videos)

Add to that is that Samsung has long had Apple beat (in my humble opinion) with their flash photography. The "True Tone" flash by Apple just doesn't illuminate well enough past a couple of feet.

There are always surprises at the reveal. Some key features of iOS 11 won't be known until they are seen in action with the iPhone x edition. Hopefully Apple will stick to what it does best, that is being the best at taking photos and videos.

Based on previous reveals a number of details on iOS 11 will be made published c in September.

 

[RSmith2023]

So who's really asking for their smartphones to replace their desktop computers?

Plenty of people would rather have "one device to rule them all" these days. Apple recognizes this themselves which is exactly why they developed features such as Continuity, iCloud sync, etc. If my personal device could adequately replace a laptop/desktop, I'd do it in a heartbeat. With that, you would always have access to all of your material.

Also, I'd like to know a real use case where you need duplicate images and videos please.

Are you asking because you are curious, or because you are doubting the need? Simply because you or I may not see the need for something does not mean a significant number of the billions of other people on the planet (millions of whom will buy the Note 8) will see a use for it. What makes a "real use case" for you or me doesn't necessarily extend to others because we may "use" our devices differently.

This feature will take the selfie craze to a new level in social media alone posting alone. Also, YouTubers making instructional videos or hosting interviews could use this feature.

Of course Apple could easily do this since it is done in some degree with FaceTime. They just failed to take the next step.

 

[the future]

The "Dual Capture" feature allows you to simultaneously capture images from both the front and rear cameras.

AFAIK dual capture takes a picture with both rear cameras each, not with the front camera. It would be very hard to frame both the rear and the front camera simultaneously with any precision.

 

[RiddlaBronc]

AFAIK dual capture takes a picture with both rear cameras each, not with the front camera. It would be very hard to frame both the rear and the front camera simultaneously with any precision.

Thats the magic of Samsung, it just works.

 

[akash.nu]

Thats the magic of Samsung, it just works.

Lol. Only if that was true.