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I don’t understand your point.

You propose that Apple supporting their OS longer than Samsung has no value because those who keep their phones longer don’t like new things? That’s preposterous. The vast majority are doing so because of cost consciousness. Apple’s continued support offers tremendous value to those that hold onto their phones for a long period of time.

This value can be be quantified by the iPhone’s commanding lead over Samsung in depreciation (https://www.bankmycell.com/blog/cell-phone-depreciation-report-2020-2021/)



Again, assuming cost conscious consumers wouldn’t value additional support - which allows them to keep their device (and thus save money) for a longer period of time - is a wild take.



True, it does not brick. But more and more people, especially cost conscious consumers, rely on their smartphone as their only computer. Continued support is that much more important - and security updates are paramount.



I can agree, in such a time frame, there is little difference between the two companies.

You are incorrect, not all devices are set to receive the extended updates. And not to mention, Samsung just announced this last month - they are far from proving they are true to their word. Conversely, Apple’s iPhone 5s released in 2013 received 6 years of full iOS updates.
Depends what you mean by support. Back when I had a 4s it worked fantastic on iOS7 and then I “upgraded” to iOS8 and it became almost unusable so I would have preferred Apple not pushing the “upgrade“ on me.
 
Come on Apple, your turn...
Huh? Apple announced theirs first in great detail and Samsung copied it. Apple said it would be released early 2022.

The article states, “Samsung plans to launch its initiative in the summer, and additional devices will be supported over time.”
 
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Is there no middle of 22 then? By your logic, there's only early and late.

If they're not specific enough to use quarters, then in my mind early 2022 is the first four months, mid is the middle four months, and late is the last four months.

I've never heard anyone say June 30th is early in the year.
Early 2022 is the first half and late represents the second half. Just like early tomorrow could be anywhere from 12:00 am to 11:59 am The moment time transitions to the second half is called noon.

It doesn’t exist as an equal but separate period of time. Companies work in quarters. When they are uncertain they a vague and tend to stretch the time over longer periods.
 
Huh? Apple announced theirs first in great detail and Samsung copied it. Apple said it would be released early 2022.

The article states, “Samsung plans to launch its initiative in the summer, and additional devices will be supported over time.”
Yes I know that, but where is it?
 
I don’t understand your point.

You stated that phones experience a "huge drop in utility, which occurs when OS updates are no longer available" which is simply untrue for a majority of users. Apple's own data suggests that far less than half of all users with devices over 4 years old are on the latest OS. Even for iPads less than 4 years old, barely half are on the latest OS. While denizens of message boards often pipe on about how important OS updates are, the average user really doesn't care that much as long as they can still play their games, watch their shows, do their social media, and email. That's a far different demographic from those who use their phones and tablets as computer replacements.

Yes, Apple provides much longer timeframe for software updates than Samsung or, really, ANY android-based manufacturer, including Google themselves. And while OS updates are good in theory, it's not as big of an impact on how they use their devices as you suggest. And if you poll the average person on the street, I would bet you money that a majority would say that security updates are probably important, but that they could live without them as long as the phone works.
 
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You stated that phones experience a "huge drop in utility, which occurs when OS updates are no longer available" which is simply untrue for a majority of users. Apple's own data suggests that far less than half of all users with devices over 4 years old are on the latest OS. Even for iPads less than 4 years old, barely half are on the latest OS. While denizens of message boards often pipe on about how important OS updates are, the average user really doesn't care that much as long as they can still play their games, watch their shows, do their social media, and email. That's a far different demographic from those who use their phones and tablets as computer replacements.

Yes, Apple provides much longer timeframe for software updates than Samsung or, really, ANY android-based manufacturer, including Google themselves. And while OS updates are good in theory, it's not as big of an impact on how they use their devices as you suggest. And if you poll the average person on the street, I would bet you money that a majority would say that security updates are probably important, but that they could live without them as long as the phone works.
I’ll concede that could very well be the case. I am admittedly (and unsurprisingly, given the forum) biased towards iOS.

I am a little hesitant to say that Apple’s extended OS support isn’t valuable just because the average person isn’t overly concerned with receiving security updates. Given that by definition the result of security updates working is that nothing happens, assessing its utility valuation to lay people isn’t a great choice. Same reason we have laws to require car insurance. Left up to the average person, many would think it’s not necessary and be thrilled to save the money by forgoing coverage. That doesn’t mean car insurance doesn’t have value.
 
This is extremely cool. Android devices can’t really compete anywhere other than price now. But this would make them more attractive even to me, a person who loves Apple’s devices
 
Come on Apple, your turn...

You announced it, where is it?
This is an announcement for late summer copying Apple’s announcement for early 2022 which can refer to the first half. Samsung’s is not released either.
 
Meanwhile, Apple released a cartoon about it and ghosted us.
Samsung is copying the announcement and targeting a summer release no specific date so it could be September 21st and still meet that deadline.
 
COOL! this covers my S20 Ultra

I also own a Note 20 but did not see that mentioned in the article.

Don't have to jail break a Samsung phone to run plenty of APPS like you do APPLE.
Apple users aren’t plagued with an overwhelming degree of malware that is worse than the days of Windows XP like Android users. Unfortunately, Android users have no idea because while Google is quick to announce software exploits against Apple, they are much quieter about their issues. I guess it helps that they control search and can dampen the impact of any articles not friendly to them.
 
COOL! this covers my S20 Ultra

I also own a Note 20 but did not see that mentioned in the article.

Don't have to jail break a Samsung phone to run plenty of APPS like you do APPLE.

Last I checked, jailbreaking an android phone still won’t let me access the myriad of iOS-only apps such as fantastical, overcast, Tweetbot and Apollo.
 
First question what about the tools, that means we have to buy tools from iFixit and Samsung screens are very expensive if a customer does any mistake while repairing it would be a huge cost. The basic battery swap is not supported.

For me, this program looks utter fail. what I would suggest is to order the part and go to a local phone repair store to use their expertise to fix it at the same price as buying repair tools.
 
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