samsung pro or evo for mac mini 2012?

jev425

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I want to swap an ssd into my mac mini but curious to know if I should spend a bit extra on the pro or is the evo more than enough?
 

ixxx69

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I want to swap an ssd into my mac mini but curious to know if I should spend a bit extra on the pro or is the evo more than enough?
You would never know the difference, even if you literally had identical Macs setup next to each other, one with the Evo and one with the Pro. Save the money and get the Evo.
 

drsox

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I want to swap an ssd into my mac mini but curious to know if I should spend a bit extra on the pro or is the evo more than enough?
I swapped out my evo for a pro after a while. But it depends on what you want it for (like everything). I wanted to get the best from my 2014 i7 and not have to upgrade again, but if it is just a much faster version (than the spinner) that you want then the evo is fine.
 

phrehdd

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Consider the Evo a far better bet in terms of price. The only reason to possibly bump up is if the warranty is better.
 

jev425

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For the same size the evo is $98 and the pro is $143 on Amazon. The evo has 5 year warranty and the pro has 10 year warranty
 

paulrbeers

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840 or 850? I wld not buy an 840 EVO at this time.
I am fairly certain he was talking about the 850 EVO vs the 850 Pro. I don't think anyone is buying 840 EVO's anymore (and dangit I have like 4 of them which pisses me off...)

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I want to swap an ssd into my mac mini but curious to know if I should spend a bit extra on the pro or is the evo more than enough?
Fact is, any review site will tell you that there is virtually no advantage between the 850 EVO and 850 Pro for a consumer. You are not going to notice a difference. In 3 years from now, you will probably want to upgrade anyway so what advantage is there for the 10 year warranty? And what is a warranty anyway? "Here's your new 5 year old drive, you lost your data. Sorry...."
 

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For the same size the evo is $98 and the pro is $143 on Amazon. The evo has 5 year warranty and the pro has 10 year warranty
Short of sitting there with a stopwatch and a benchmark program, you won't notice the difference in day to day usage. I would just save the money and get the EVO.
 

D.T.

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There was a sale linked to on Ebay (from the marketplace), NewEgg, had the EVO 512GB for $149.

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Went to find the link for you, looks like those are sold out. Amazon had a sale on the Crucial MX200 recently, really good deals. Basically, if you're not in a huge rush, and you keep an eye out for sales (Amazon, NewEgg, etc.), you can score a really outstanding deal.

FWIW, I'm using a 512GB Crucial MX100 in my '12, migrated from my '11 MBP, it's fantastic :)
 
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xsquid

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I put an 850 evo 256 in mine and it's a whole new ballgame. One to two bounces of the icon for most apps to open, no more beach balls and no more random reboots at all. I'm glad I went with the evo, the change is so drastic I doubt I would have noticed any difference with the pro. With the prices coming down I would probably go with the 512. Just my opinion though.

As far as the warranties go 5 is plenty for me, when I get rid of this one I will leave this ssd in when I get rid of it, 2-3 years probably, and will be looking at something cheaper and better.
 
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QuantumLo0p

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What's wrong with the 840 EVO?
There has been a performance degradation issue with the 840 evo. Samsung seems to have cured the issue although some sources are saying the issue still exists but the Samsung Magician software is dealing with it. On my windows rig the performance returned and I haven't seen it degrade since the last fix was released. However, since Samsung hasn't ported their Magician software to os-x I would probably avoid the 840 evo for Mac usage.

Which leaves us with the 850 series. Performance wise there isn't much difference between the pro and evo. IMO money is better spent buying a large enough drive which you won't use the majority of the capacity if you plan on keeping it for a long time. The unused space really isn't "unused" because wear leveling takes turns writing data to different parts of the memory so the more space you have to work with the longer your drive will last. Also, many people won't actually get to the point when a ssd fails; dependent on how much data you write to the ssd. On my Samsung I have written almost 5TB but I believe that might be on the high side for many users. I used to worry about ssd life a lot more than I do now. Having read some life span articles relieved most of my concerns.

I like to cap the amount of data on my ssd's to about 20-25% of capacity. My main ssd is an 840 evo 500MB and my next purchase will most likely be an 850 evo 500MB and also an 850 evo 250MB or 120MB for my notebook.

If you want some peace of mind I would buy an 850 pro but I believe the 850 is an awesome drive and cheaper than the pro. When or if Samsung ports Magician to Macs would be a good thing. The rapid mode (simple ram caching) alone is worth installing the software.
 

newellj

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I am fairly certain he was talking about the 850 EVO vs the 850 Pro. I don't think anyone is buying 840 EVO's anymore (and dangit I have like 4 of them which pisses me off...)



I only have one, and even that pisses me off... :mad:

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There has been a performance degradation issue with the 840 evo. Samsung seems to have cured the issue although some sources are saying the issue still exists but the Samsung Magician software is dealing with it. On my windows rig the performance returned and I haven't seen it degrade since the last fix was released. However, since Samsung hasn't ported their Magician software to os-x I would probably avoid the 840 evo for Mac usage.

Which leaves us with the 850 series. Performance wise there isn't much difference between the pro and evo. IMO money is better spent buying a large enough drive which you won't use the majority of the capacity if you plan on keeping it for a long time. The unused space really isn't "unused" because wear leveling takes turns writing data to different parts of the memory so the more space you have to work with the longer your drive will last. Also, many people won't actually get to the point when a ssd fails; dependent on how much data you write to the ssd. On my Samsung I have written almost 5TB but I believe that might be on the high side for many users. I used to worry about ssd life a lot more than I do now. Having read some life span articles relieved most of my concerns.

I like to cap the amount of data on my ssd's to about 20-25% of capacity. My main ssd is an 840 evo 500MB and my next purchase will most likely be an 850 evo 500MB and also an 850 evo 250MB or 120MB for my notebook.

If you want some peace of mind I would buy an 850 pro but I believe the 850 is an awesome drive and cheaper than the pro. When or if Samsung ports Magician to Macs would be a good thing. The rapid mode (simple ram caching) alone is worth installing the software.
I think it's pretty clear that the 840 EVO issues have not been solved and that Samsung is not going to solve them. Running the Samsung software on a Windows machine (as you say, it's not available for OS X) is only a temporary fix. My beef is not that the 840 EVO had a problem, it's that Samsung release a fix that didn't solve the problem and then promised another fix that never arrived. I will not buy another Samsung drive any time soon. :mad:
 

Fishrrman

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Considering the various problems that folks are reporting lately with Samsung drives, I'd get a Crucial instead!
 

xsquid

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Considering the various problems that folks are reporting lately with Samsung drives, I'd get a Crucial instead!
What problems are people having with the 850 evo?

I do like crucial products, have put a ton of their memory in computers.
 

Corax

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I've build a Crucial MX200 in my Mac Mini 2011 recently. It flies compared to the OCW Core SSD that was in it!
Really fast boot, applications startup fast (1 bounce).

I choose the Crucial because of durability and long life. It has power loss protection, which I really need over here in Curaçao. Also some other premium features that are in the MX200 made me decide for it over Samsungs offerings.
It's amazing what Crucial puts in their consumer grade SSD's that are normally only in enterprise or pro SSD's.
 
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