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Samsung Releases 4TB T7 Shield Portable SSD
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Hostile towards lower income people?
Are you serious?
I don't feel offended about not being able to buy a Ferrari but you don't hear me complaining about a brand's hostility towards little old me.
If you can't afford it, don't buy it.
Samsung T5 is SATA-based so that one maxes out at ~500MB/s.
I believe the T7 uses the same controller as the non-Pro DRAM-less Samsung 980 M.2 NVMe SSD.
apple charges $1400 for 4TB, so Samsung prices actually look cheap. $970 lessThat's expensive.Wish SSDs were cheaper.
These are 4TB 1GB/s drives
Apple is making 8TB ultra 7GB/s, low latency, drives. I think you aren't comparing apples to apples.
Can’t imagine traveling with a 4tb SSD. That’s a lot of data to lose
Been using the 1TB versions a lot lately, they're nice, but it's literally just a T7 with a silicone case glued on top
These are bottlenecked by the USB interface. The internal components should be capable of 3.5/3GB/s read/write (burst). Higher end PCIe 4 SSDs capable of similar read/write to Apple's SSDs cost a lot cheaper than what Apple charges.
Mind, afaik the storage controller is part of the M1/M2 chipset so it's pretty much impossible to beat latency on those.
in the army you are taught to conserve your rations and ammos, in the apple eco system you are taught to conserve your memories 😂
Samsungs T7 is a different class of drive to those from Apple. At least 4x difference in speed.
The sandisk pro extreme is a very problematic drive though. Lots of complaints about reliability
People like myself also use them as drives to hook up to video cameras to record media as they are a much cheaper and faster option than CF cards.
Which Mac supports USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 for the faster speeds? AFAIK, you only get half the speed on a Mac with the Sandisk 4TB Extreme Pro SSD.
Funny, I randomly looked this up yesterday on Amazon and saw it for sale before this announcement. I was wondering how I missed the announcement, lol. Every few months I would check to see if they came out with a 4TB version yet but I had stopped checking because I bought something else. I loved my 2TB T5 but needed more storage. I ended up picking up the SanDisk Extreme Portable 4TB SSD that has the exact same 1050MB/s speed so probably has a similar chip. Got it on sale for $299 back during that weird autumn prime day sale but it's only showing $319 right now which is still a better deal: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RX4QKXS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1.
I really like it so far, it's actually smaller than it looks in the photos. It's thinner and not as wide as the T5/T7, but about 25% or so longer which is partially taken up by the loop. Still quite small and easily pocketable. It feels more solid than my T5 with a nice soft touch rubber grip on the back. Haven't tried this ruggedized T7. I like the SanDisk more than I thought and would only go back to this model if it were cheaper for a future 8TB version.
All these new Macs starting with 8GB of RAM is pathetic in 2023 for how much they cost, and 256GB of storage on an actual computer is abysmal. And a half a terabyte of storage on a $2500 "Pro" machine is utterly ridiculous, especially considering how cheap storage is right now. I get charging double as an Apple tax, but we're talking closer to quadruple? I mean, really? They're charging $600 for an extra 1.5TB, or $1200 for an extra 3.5TB. When you factor in the OS and built-in apps taking up storage, plus a few professional editing apps installed, 512GB barely leaves you with enough storage to hold an hour's worth of ProRes iPhone video. Couldn't even edit a full movie, especially with scratch disk, without massively jacking up the price.
I really like it so far, it's actually smaller than it looks in the photos. It's thinner and not as wide as the T5/T7, but about 25% or so longer which is partially taken up by the loop. Still quite small and easily pocketable. It feels more solid than my T5 with a nice soft touch rubber grip on the back. Haven't tried this ruggedized T7. I like the SanDisk more than I thought and would only go back to this model if it were cheaper for a future 8TB version.
I've been around here as long as you have and while what you're saying is true I feel like these prices seem even more inflated than ever. And also back in those days we could actually, you know, upgrade our RAM and storage as needed. Just remove a few screws from the bottom and pop in some new RAM and HDD. Boom! Heck, even my current 2019 iMac I was able to order with 8GB and upgrade to 48GB and then 64GB. I remember upgrading my 2008 MBP from 2GB to 6GB of RAM and at some point I upgraded the HDD to 512GB, gave it to my grandpa and at one point upgraded it to an SSD for him, I think 1TB, for pretty cheap.
All these new Macs starting with 8GB of RAM is pathetic in 2023 for how much they cost, and 256GB of storage on an actual computer is abysmal. And a half a terabyte of storage on a $2500 "Pro" machine is utterly ridiculous, especially considering how cheap storage is right now. I get charging double as an Apple tax, but we're talking closer to quadruple? I mean, really? They're charging $600 for an extra 1.5TB, or $1200 for an extra 3.5TB. When you factor in the OS and built-in apps taking up storage, plus a few professional editing apps installed, 512GB barely leaves you with enough storage to hold an hour's worth of ProRes iPhone video. Couldn't even edit a full movie, especially with scratch disk, without massively jacking up the price.
The crucial isn’t quite as ruggedized, but for $249 at the same speed, I can glue some rubber bumpers on it.
I’ve been happy with my Crucial externals and they’re plenty fast for all my consumer uses.
I’ve been happy with my Crucial externals and they’re plenty fast for all my consumer uses.
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Samsung SSDs are good. T7 is a great drive. Good to have larger capacity option.
How does the T7 Shield compare against the SanDisk Extreme V2 (non-Pro).
Is the T7 shield better/different in performance than regular T7 of past year? A year ago when I was researching this, the SanDisk Extreme V2 performed the best (aside from the Pro or Thunderbolt drives). It was the best overall performer in the 1000 MB/s USB 3.2 range.
Is the T7 shield better/different in performance than regular T7 of past year? A year ago when I was researching this, the SanDisk Extreme V2 performed the best (aside from the Pro or Thunderbolt drives). It was the best overall performer in the 1000 MB/s USB 3.2 range.
If competition exists and people are paying then its the fair price.
Any product you do not like always boycott, its amazing how boycotting decrease pricing.
No, its more like threat pricing. "Its your last change to upgrade, otherwise you have to buy a whole new computer, so do you want that extra 8GB RAM for $400 or not!?"
Samsung today announced the launch of a 4TB version of its popular T7 Shield portable SSD, with the new version joining the 1TB and 2TB size options that Samsung debuted last April.
The T7 Shield is Samsung's most damage-resistant SSD, offering a durable casing that protects the device both indoors and outdoors. The Shield's enclosure is made from aluminum and has an IP65 water and dust resistance rating, so it can hold up to rain and other elements. It also offers crush resistance and protection from drops over nine feet high.
There is a rubberized exterior casing around the aluminum that adds further protection, and because of the small size, it is portable and ideal for use when traveling. The 4TB model is available in black.
The T7 Shield offers read speeds of up to 1,050 MB/s, and write speeds of up to 1,000 MB/s. It connects to a Mac using a USB-C to USB-C cable, and has a built-in thermal guard to protect from degradation due to overheating.
The 4TB T7 Shield Portable SSD can be purchased from the Samsung website for $430. Samsung also sells a 2TB variant for $180, and a 1TB model for $100.
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Its not the physical damage I am worried about, its the failing of the internal electronics that worries me.
I can understand the ram thing more as thats all on one chip. So there will be production issues that you would need to factor in for each cpu/memory configuration which could demand a premium in price.
But the HD is just an installation job. The core hardware is the same as any company is using. I dont get how they justify the cost of HD upgrades at all.
The only way it makes sense is that they are selling the entry level units at a loss and use the pricing of higher level models to make up for the loss. There seems no way that apple pricing on higher tier models is reflective of how much it cost to build the higher tier model.
This is wrong. The normal t7 uses V-NAND v5, the T7 Shield uses V-NAND v6. This means around 15% faster speed and less power usage and more reliability. There is more comparisons and tests which prove this.
Well i focused on the intel macs since as you said, the laptops and apple silicon change things around. But the intel imacs used regular socketed RAM and still charged those crazy prices. At least with the SSD, it's proprietary and/or soldered to the board so there's been some modifications (however, this is still a moot point as on some models, it's possible to fit an A+ tier drive like the WD SN850 NVMe with full TRIM support with an adapter for cheaper)
Apple is definitely not taking any losses. They have historically priced the base models in a way that the specs might be enough for a couple years but become short, pushing people to replace the system. Unfortunately, the entire industry copied that pricing so now everyone is shipping 8/256gb devices for 1-2k.
Anyways, the issue is that despite these pricing, people buy. Why price lower when people are buying
i'd be able to buy a few shares of aapl stock for all the different hard drive footprints i have over the years. no cloud for me - yet