Uhh, Apple isn't even close to being the biggest company in the world.
It has the largest market capitalisation.
Yes, HP is bigger than Apple. Wal-Mart is three times the size of Apple.
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Uhh, Apple isn't even close to being the biggest company in the world.
It has the largest market capitalisation.
I assume that some others here realize that 22 nM means a line width (or is it metallurgical junction?) of only 220 atoms? It's almost incredible that this stuff works at all (even at 28nM), let alone at decent yields.
That's the lesson Apple needs to learn. Samsung produces everything from LCDs to NAND and SoCs which makes them independent, whereas Apple doesn't own a single factory. Without Samsung, Apple couldn't make a single iPhone or iPad but Samsung would do just fine without Apple, so who is feeding who?
What makes you think, that the others can do it cheaper?
Samsung is a huge company in it's own right. They have many different product lines, not all in electronics. It's really not dependent on Apple as a customer. However Apple currently depends on Samsung as a supplier.At some point Apple will just find a new supplier and it'll hurt Samsung more in the end.
Good job.
Ha - not really cowboy. I generally think about things BEFORE making decisions/posting to internet forums. Something I would say a majority of people don't do enough of - so I guess you'd be correct in that regards.
Still, I stand by my initial hypothesis. At the basis of every decision lies a series of yes/no questions. Each person will answer a specific way and then defend said answer, as you so eloquently stated, based on various inputs - experiences, emotions, beliefs. NONE of this changes the fact that the brain makes small yes/no decisions to ultimately reach a more complex answer.
I wonder how, in your world, those decisions are made in the first place? I don't deny rationalization takes place - my statements never mentioned any thought processes after the decision, rather the conversation was regarding the core of decision making - before the decision. I suppose answers to decisions just come to you out of nothing and you rationalize the decision that came from nowhere based on your beliefs?
Oh good - another human![]()
I think what walie is trying to say is AMD can't supply mobile processor chips to Apple because AMD doesn't manufacture chips.
Samsung sees the writing on the wall. They know Apple is entertaining other fabricators.
Hey Tim, how's Apple's thermonuclear war going?
This makes Apple more likely to hasten their move away from Samsung. if this rumour is true. And Apple away from Samaung = $0 for Samaung as they won't be buying parts from Samsung anymore.
Lesson Samsung needs to learn.
"Don't bite the hand that feeds you cause one day the hand will stop feeding you if you keep biting it".
Best post ever !
Samsung will be fine in the future and so will apple.
Apple uses TI in the Lightning connector and their battery packs.
But there's no way Apple will switch to using OMAP considering TI's trying to exit that market. Remember the rumors of Amazon buying a piece of TI? That'd be this part.
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Samsung will be more stronger. They don't just make phones, computers, tablet, chips. Samsung builds almost everything. Only Apple builds phones, tablets, computers and music player. One of them is gone bad. Apple will be in trouble.
Yes... But since Apple is going to lose a few billions, tell me why they won't:
- Invest 20 billions on LG, resulting in samsungs loses (Apple business and the fact that LG will compete more with Samsung)
-Invest in Sharp (same thing with LG)
-TSMC (same)
-Sony.
-etc.
How many billions per year would samsung lose with all these companies upping their game with Apple paying them for memory, screens, flash, ram, etc? 10?20?50?
Don't forget foxconn.
With this sort of alternatives, Apple would win a lot, Samsung will suffer a lot.
Don't fool yourself, Apple can bring the hammer to samsung not only directly (small part) but also by investing in others. Also, samsung's credibility is down within other clients. What are the other companies thinking? Samsung can bite their hands too...
Samsung has basically just stolen everything from Apple at this point. Samsung will NOT "be more stronger" - it will be more weaker.
Samsung tries to build anything and everything in the world. They even make the garbage trucks to cart it all away after it breaks. Apple focuses like a laser on nothing but insanely great products and then recycles them responsibly.
Samsung has basically just stolen everything from Apple at this point. Samsung will NOT "be more stronger" - it will be more weaker.
Samsung tries to build anything and everything in the world. They even make the garbage trucks to cart it all away after it breaks. Apple focuses like a laser on nothing but insanely great products and then recycles them responsibly.
The largest intellectual property is in the design...chip fab is pretty straight forward.
I have several pcs with AMD processors. How do they not manufacture chips?
This "war" has gotten less away from iOS vs Android and more about Apple and Samsung. Either way it's time to end all ties with Samsung. HTC and Microsoft both came to agreements with Apple about iOS technology like responsible companies. Apple settled with that Swiss Clock company like a responsible company. Samsung on the other hand refuses to license anything they stole from Apple, and cries every time Apple sues their ass and ask what did we do wrong. I hate Samsung's business ethics and I hate their crappy plastic products.
Without Apple, Samsung should be still selling 10 phones each month and RIM being the King.
Without Apple, Samsung should not have all the money to build all those factories.
That's why they already stopped the build of their next generation CPU factory in the south of Korea: because they lose Apple.
And it's also why Sharp is not dead yet: because Apple is funding them now with TMSC. Apple is now funding the biggest competitor of Samsung.
We will see how Samsung will handle that: losing money on one side, while this money is used to boost competition![]()
Riiiiiight. And without Bill Gates investing in Apple they would be out of business. Oh how quickly people forget. Only Apple fans can be so arrogant and elitist to take credit for all the technology of the universe.
The lesson here is to never have to rely on a single supplier for anything. Apple have left themselves vulnerable in having a single supplier for some of their components and that Supplier is now turning the screw. Apple have transitioned their LCD panel to other suppliers so they no longer have a single supplier problem there but I would say they are still a year away from dropping Samsung as a foundry for their processors. This is the reason they developed their own maps so they did not have to rely on Google, a competitor, for that functionality. That was handled badly but they have now removed that point of leverage Google had over them. In an extreme case Samsung could just stop making the processors and that would sink Apple. Now that isn't going to happen because the contractual fallout for Samsung would be huge but it just goes to show how vulnerable Apple has left itself by relying on a single supplier who is also a competitor for supply of a key component.
I agree. Plus, let's not forget Samsung also dropped Apple from their display manufacturing.
What do you mean why?. Why not? For the same reason Samsung did it. Money. They are already a supplier of chips and have the manufacturing capability.
Only it would be better for apple because AMD and Intel are not competitors with apple. AMD and Intel are suppliers the same way intel provides the chips in the macs. They could supply the chips for IOS only using apples design.
This would be an incredibly easy way for Apple to kick Samsung to the curb relatively quickly.
I think that this report was denied by Samsung
Samsung has basically just stolen everything from Apple at this point. Samsung will NOT "be more stronger" - it will be more weaker.
Samsung tries to build anything and everything in the world. They even make the garbage trucks to cart it all away after it breaks. Apple focuses like a laser on nothing but insanely great products and then recycles them responsibly.