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Samsung will add a third foldable device to its smartphone lineup this year that will likely feature a unique rollable form factor, according to a reliable leaker of Samsung's plans.
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Oppo X 2021 rollable phone concept


The existing Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Galaxy Z Fold 3 have been relatively successful additions to Samsung's smartphone family, and the company reportedly plans to ship over 10 million foldables in 2022 with successor models to the Flip 3 and Fold 3, along with a third unnamed addition to its foldable lineup.

The codenames that Samsung is using internally for the models expected this year are said to include B4, Q4, and N4, with B4 and Q4 believed to relate to the Z Flip 4 and Z Fold 4, respectively, and the N4 referring to a completely new device.

Mobile leaker @UniverseIce, who is a well-regarded source of Samsung rumors, today claimed that Samsung's third foldable device is set for release in the second half of the year. However, the leaker believes the codename of the new device is in fact "Diamond" and says it has a "high probability" of having a rollable form factor. Responding to the claim, reputable display analyst Ross Young said he last heard that production of the device had been pushed out beyond 2022, and that he would now seek to confirm if that was still an accurate assessment.

Rollable/slidable phones don't yet exist on the consumer market, but plenty of concept devices have been advertised by mobile makers as they search for the next big innovation in smartphone technology. The Oppo X is a case in point. It used a motorized powertrain mechanism to unroll or extend the screen uniformly while avoiding visible kinks or folds in the display.

The Oppo X 2021 was the first rollable phone that was expected to come to market, but the device was never made available, although Oppo apparently has plans to release an updated version this year. Samsung also showed off a concept smartphone with a slidable OLED display in 2021, but it wasn't tied to a real consumer product launch.

Apple has explored rollable displays in the past, based on patents from the company. In March 2020, a patent attributed to Apple appeared on the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office that describes an "Electronic device with flexible display structures."

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Apple patent


The patent details a flexible display that can be wrapped around one or more internal roller mechanisms, allowing the screen to expand out of the chassis. A rigid section remains to house the printed circuit boards and other electronic components, but with the addition of the rollable display layers.

"Elongated bistable support members may run along the edges of the display or may be overlapped by a central active area of the display to help stiffen and support the display in its extended position," explains the patent, which conceives the technology as adaptable to anything from a smartphone to a smartwatch.

As with all Apple patents, there's no indication that Apple has plans to bring such a device to market, but it is interesting to see what sorts of future solutions Apple is eyeing as it seeks to innovate beyond current consumer-use technologies and compete with future generations of devices with hybrid form factors.

Article Link: Samsung Rumored to Launch First 'Rollable' Foldable Phone Later This Year
I can’t wait to enhance the line of my trousers by having a rolled-up phone in my pocket.

I‘m not trying to drop a lame euphemism - just to express how content I am to have a flat phone.
 
Reviews would suggest otherwise?
Most reviews of a foldable have been pretty positive from what I've seen. (the last versions)

Do you like a giant crease in your phone?
You really don't see it, the screen is continuous and unbroken, but you can definitely feel it. It's a trade off, somewhat like the MBP Notch (which I'll never buy). To take up less space in my pocket, yes, I'll take the crease. (I have a Flip3)
 
Erm…..aren’t the current foldable devices a POS? Fix that first Samsung 🙄 and they make fun of Apple for making dumb decisions
Samsung continues to improve their current foldable and lots of people do like them. Not sure you can really characterize them as "POS". They are expensive and there are still compromises but those are not insurmountable problems. Samsung is doing their product development in the open while Apple does theirs behind closed does, but both seem to be exploring this space. It will be interesting to see the result in a few years.
 
Ship does not equal sell with Samsung. Samsung will produce and distribute 10 million foldables into their channels. And most of them will sit on shelves or in boxes. If they sell 2 million of them it will be a miracle. And that's merely the size of the tech review market.

Z flip 3 sold 4.6 million and Z fold 3 sold 2.5 million


The foldable line are growing and growing
 
Reviews would suggest otherwise? Do you like a giant crease in your phone?

Reviews have done nothing but praise the foldable market so not sure what you’re watching

I have the fold 3 and the crease isn’t really noticeable in day to day usage and often when watching content you wouldn’t know it’s there

As somebody who’s been using a notch on my iPhone for past 4 years it’s far more noticeable than a Crease
 
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Amazing!

I’d personally love this but I can see Apple not releasing it as it cannibalizes the iPad and of course, they want iPhone users to buy an iPad and not have an all in one device..
When Apple released the iPhone, some said that it might cannibalize iPod sales. Good thing it did. If you don't cannibalize your own products, someone else will.
 
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While Samsung and others dabble in foldable phones, I believe Apple realizes that the future is arguably AR phones. For what that might look like see the AR phones in the series Upload. Apple Glasses and an outstretched thumb and forefinger is the ultimate "foldable" phone.
 
Gotta start somewhere. Without Samsung, we would still have 3.5” iPhones and 4gb storage for $1999
iPadOS is the result of no competition. Saw the same with intel before Ryzen
You can say the same about macOS. If you take away the new features in Monterey that are essentially iOS transplants, then take away those where existing third-party solutions exist, e.g., Universal Control (a better implementation of Logitech Flow), then take away cosmetic changes, e.g., Safari's compact tab bar, you're really just left with some minor Finder improvements and new emojis.
 
Nonsense. iPadOS is exactly what it should be for the type of device it runs on. There is room for improvement always, but improvement does not mean turning it into a Mac.

On second thought I suppose you're right. iPadOS has no competition. Absolutely no one has managed to create a usable tablet OS, as Apple has. They've all tried to shoehorn a desktop OS onto the tablet form factor, and failed miserably.
Because Google and Microsoft make OS for tablets, not Samsung or Xiaomi, so the latter have to wait and in the meantime can only do the best they can with the tools that they've got.

The fact that Apple decided to implement mouse support and even came out with their own keyboard for the iPad is a tacit admission that their positioning of the iPad was off, to put it nicely. It also highlighted how awkwardly placed tablets are in personal computing. A tablet isn't powerful enough to do serious work on, but large enough that it can't be carried around like an iPhone. Rollable is an attempt to overcome this while maintaining mobility.

The only reason I still prefer an iPad Pro over Surface Pro is aesthetics, but Microsoft's hardware implementation just makes a lot more sense in actual use cases, i.e., a tablet/laptop blend sharing the same operating system. In other words, iPadOS should really be a derivative of macOS, not iOS.
 
I want one just to be able to go out in medieval dress and shout "Here ye, here ye!" each time I unroll the screen.
 
This is more what I was expecting 'loose' screens to be used for. Instead of folding them and risking creasing the screen, have it move smoothly along a rounded edge with more clearance.
 
The Samsung hate is real. ???.

I went through the Fold 2 and Fold 3 with absolutely no issues. Now carrying the S22 Ultra along with my 11 Pro Max.

Rollable display look interesting. But any motorized parts do worry me.
 


Samsung will add a third foldable device to its smartphone lineup this year that will likely feature a unique rollable form factor, according to a reliable leaker of Samsung's plans.
oppo-x-rollable.jpg

Oppo X 2021 rollable phone concept


The existing Galaxy Z Flip 3 and Galaxy Z Fold 3 have been relatively successful additions to Samsung's smartphone family, and the company reportedly plans to ship over 10 million foldables in 2022 with successor models to the Flip 3 and Fold 3, along with a third unnamed addition to its foldable lineup.

The codenames that Samsung is using internally for the models expected this year are said to include B4, Q4, and N4, with B4 and Q4 believed to relate to the Z Flip 4 and Z Fold 4, respectively, and the N4 referring to a completely new device.

Mobile leaker @UniverseIce, who is a well-regarded source of Samsung rumors, today claimed that Samsung's third foldable device is set for release in the second half of the year. However, the leaker believes the codename of the new device is in fact "Diamond" and says it has a "high probability" of having a rollable form factor. Responding to the claim, reputable display analyst Ross Young said he last heard that production of the device had been pushed out beyond 2022, and that he would now seek to confirm if that was still an accurate assessment.

Rollable/slidable phones don't yet exist on the consumer market, but plenty of concept devices have been advertised by mobile makers as they search for the next big innovation in smartphone technology. The Oppo X is a case in point. It used a motorized powertrain mechanism to unroll or extend the screen uniformly while avoiding visible kinks or folds in the display.

The Oppo X 2021 was the first rollable phone that was expected to come to market, but the device was never made available, although Oppo apparently has plans to release an updated version this year. Samsung also showed off a concept smartphone with a slidable OLED display in 2021, but it wasn't tied to a real consumer product launch.

Apple has explored rollable displays in the past, based on patents from the company. In March 2020, a patent attributed to Apple appeared on the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office that describes an "Electronic device with flexible display structures."

apple-patent-rollable-display.jpg

Apple patent


The patent details a flexible display that can be wrapped around one or more internal roller mechanisms, allowing the screen to expand out of the chassis. A rigid section remains to house the printed circuit boards and other electronic components, but with the addition of the rollable display layers.

"Elongated bistable support members may run along the edges of the display or may be overlapped by a central active area of the display to help stiffen and support the display in its extended position," explains the patent, which conceives the technology as adaptable to anything from a smartphone to a smartwatch.

As with all Apple patents, there's no indication that Apple has plans to bring such a device to market, but it is interesting to see what sorts of future solutions Apple is eyeing as it seeks to innovate beyond current consumer-use technologies and compete with future generations of devices with hybrid form factors.

Article Link: Samsung Rumored to Launch First 'Rollable' Foldable Phone Later This Year
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All this rollable, foldable devices, have too many screens in it. They don't have a good UX. Humans can only focus 1 thing at a time.
 
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