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While I don't always enjoy the compromises that result from the quest for thinness, I do love the actual science behind how they get there....next week on macrumors Jony Ive rearranges the molecules of air to achieve an even thinner sealed iPhone that somehow still isn't waterproof!

iPhones aren't waterproof (I don't know of any smartphones that are) but they are water-resistant, like some competing handsets. However, Apple smartly doesn't advertise it as such. I'm not sure Apple even publishes an IP rating, but you can find articles and YouTube videos about iPhones' water-resistant design.
 
While I don't always enjoy the compromises that result from the quest for thinness, I do love the actual science behind how they get there....next week on macrumors Jony Ive rearranges the molecules of air to achieve an even thinner sealed iPhone that somehow still isn't waterproof!

Curiously, it's easier to make things airtight than waterproof, as oxygen/nitrogen molecules are considerably larger than water molecules.
 
Nice to see almost the entire new iPhone line becoming a Samsung product just with the Apple name.....:)
 
Shall we start crowdfunding for you so you can upgrade to a model with more than 16gb? Would that placate the whining?

for me it would. if you'll be happy to give me 150bucks more for 64gb I'll be more than happy to take it. iphone barely makes up for its price as it is.
 
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First Apple and Samsung were suing each other, now Samsung is helping Apple a out :rolleyes: It's all about $!

Not helping Apple out, but rather Samsung has finally stepped up to make memory devices that meet Apple's demanding requirements. It's about making competitive parts.
 
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Apparently making parts for Apple is the only Samsung can make profit in the phone business.

At least they can fall back onto other products/departments they excel in.
Fact is the smartphone business industry is saturating. Just watch how tablets are doing. You can bump the specs as much as you want, but most people use is for websurfing and social media. You don't not a workstation to do that. Same with smartphones. If Apple doesn't come up with something innovative, they will succumb the same fate. Meaning declining profits. Sadly, Apple cant fall back on any other of its products.
 
That's the problem with Jony Ive really - he's obsessed but it's just with "thinness" above all else which makes for a worse product in many areas, Steve Jobs was obsessed too but it was making the best product, didn't always get it right but it was a healthier obsession!
Last Thursday when I was having dinner with Jony Ive and another close, personal friend (who actually, really knows Jony) at our favorite restaurant, the waiter brought a handful of "waffer" thin mints with the check. Jony picked one up and then exploded (no, not literally--that would have been gross). He started shouting, "You call this thin!? This isn't thin enough! Bring me thin, of just stay home!" He stood up suddenly, knocking his chair to the floor, and stormed out of the restaurant. As he exited, he overturned two other tables, and swept the the food and plates from a third.

I turned to my other friend and said, "Wow, he's really obsessed with thinness, right?"

"No, that's just an act."

"Are you sure? That looked pretty obsessive to me."

"I shouldn't tell you this, but I'm a psychiatrist, and I've been treating Jony for years. He's really suffering from PDGS."

"What's PDGS?" I asked, noticing my friend's hands were starting to shake.

She grew noticeably more excited as she explained: "It's Professionally-Diagnosed Greed Syndrome. These amateurs calling him obsessive don't know what they're talking about! I mean, look at this!" She grabbed her iPhone from the center of the table and at the same time scooped up Jony's forgotten phone and slipped it into her pocket. Then she unlocked her iPhone using his ring finger, and opened the Settings app. "Look at this! 16GB! That's crazy! That's insane! That's certifiable! I have to go post a rant to MacRumors!" She pushed her chair back violently, making a woman at the next table spill coffee onto her lap. Then she followed Jony's path out of the restaurant, knocking the legs out from under a busboy who was trying to clean up the mess.

It was five minutes before it dawned on me that they had left me alone with the check.
 
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Last Thursday when I was having dinner with Jony Ive and another close, personal friend (who actually, really knows Jony) at our favorite restaurant, the waiter brought a handful of "waffer" thin mints with the check. Jony picked one up and then exploded (no, not literally--that would have been gross). He started shouting, "You call this thin!? This isn't thin enough! Bring me thin, of just stay home!" He stood up suddenly, knocking his chair to the floor, and stormed out of the restaurant. As he exited, he overturned two other tables, and swept the the food and plates from a third.

I turned to my other friend and said, "Wow, he's really obsessed with thinness, right?"

"No, that's just an act."

"Are you sure? That looked pretty obsessive to me."

"I shouldn't tell you this, but I'm a psychiatrist, and I've been treating Jony for years. He's really suffering from PDGS."

"What's PDGS?" I asked, noticing my friend's hands were starting to shake.

She grew noticeably more excited as she explained: "It's Professionally-Diagnosed Greed Syndrome. These amateurs calling him obsessive don't know what they're talking about! I mean, look at this!" She grabbed her iPhone from the center of the table and at the same time scooped up Jony's forgotten phone and slipped it into his pocket. Then she unlocked her iPhone using his ring finger, and opened the Settings app. "Look at this! 16GB! That's crazy! That's insane! That's certifiable! I have to go post a rant to MacRumors!" She pushed her chair back violently, making a woman at the next table spill coffee onto her lap. Then she followed Jony's path out of the restaurant, knocking the legs out from under a busboy who was trying to clean up the mess.

It was five minutes before it dawned on me that they had left me alone with the check.

Nice work. :D
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for me it would. if you'll be happy to give me 150bucks more for 64gb I'll be more than happy to take it. iphone barely makes up for its price as it is.

Why is it always all about the money with you people!?!:rolleyes: #@%$% consumer greed!!!
 
Love or hate Samsung's products, they're the king of components. Even Apple can't resist their reliability in that category. Though their love-hate relationship with each other parallels that of an adopted teenager and her parents, which is nothing short of adorable and has been fun to watch over the years.
 
it's funny that the iphone 7S seems like it will be nice upgrade but the 7 will be nothing special
 
it's funny that the iphone 7S seems like it will be nice upgrade but the 7 will be nothing special

That we know of, I'm betting not everything has leaked yet regarding the 7, we will probably see more when it goes into production.
 
iPhone 7s, featuring 16 GB, 128 GB and 256 GB.
You don't get it. There is a demographic of iPhone customers that store not that much data on their phone. From them, 16GB is fine. If you are producing a full feature film on your iPhone, get the top end one with memory and a local cloud storage unit.
 
That's the problem with Jony Ive really - he's obsessed but it's just with "thinness" above all else which makes for a worse product in many areas, Steve Jobs was obsessed too but it was making the best product, didn't always get it right but it was a healthier obsession!

i feel bad for jony ivy's poor wife. she must eat next to nothing
 
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for me it would. if you'll be happy to give me 150bucks more for 64gb I'll be more than happy to take it. iphone barely makes up for its price as it is.

What're you going to do with the extra $50???!
16gb --> 64gb increase = $100
#andTHATishowyoumath
 
Apparently making parts for Apple is the only Samsung can make profit in the phone business.

Samsung still makes a nice profit in the phone business. Billions each quarter.

It's just not as much as back when they had the higher end phablet field mostly to themselves. Tim Cook was smart to have Apple jump into that market, even after dissing it so much.

iPhones aren't waterproof (I don't know of any smartphones that are) ...

There's some industrial use smartphones that are pretty darned close. For example:

http://www.kyoceramobile.com/phones...I4L7Uz5RS_ke5O2VbsTL1zC9ZU6xHCxjuIaAh9m8P8HAQ

(Check off Waterproof and Glove & Wet Touchscreen at lower left.)

Some of which are IPX8 rated.
 
There always seems to be unwillingness for Samsung and Apple to do things. This wouldn't the first time
 
So no 256GB iPhone this year?
Remind me why you need 256.gig of storage at any one time again? 10000 albums not enough when you go on holiday?
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Nice to see almost the entire new iPhone line becoming a Samsung product just with the Apple name.....:)
If only, they can only dream about matching the quality of the design, camera, video and battery life of the s7 edge
 
Remind me why you need 256.gig of storage at any one time again? 10000 albums not enough when you go on holiday?
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If only, they can only dream about matching the quality of the design, camera, video and battery life of the s7 edge

I didn't say I needed it, I just asked if it will happen. But I could see it being useful to store films, music and so on, there is a 256GB iPad Pro and I could see it being used for the same reason. Also the iPhone 7 will shoot in 4K the same as the 6s and Live Photos take up a bit of space.
 
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