Samsung Sole Supplier for Retina Display in New iPad?

[MacinDoc]

Google Android was there before iPhone was introduced

Absolutely correct, but before the iPhone, it actually looked and functioned more like Symbian.

Edit: what happened to MR's autojoin feature?

 

[ph00ny]

There is about 50 Android Phone manufacturers out there. Why Apple is suing only Samsung?

Or is this patent-suing some kind of perverted theatre for masses and in the background they laugh on the way to the bank?

They got tons of free publicity with these patent suing campaigns every day.

Samsung isn't the only one getting sued by apple

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Is this another one of those it's inferior because apple doesn't use it and it automatically gets better on the day it gets used in an apple product?

There so many benefits for OLED display.
Contrast ratio, response time, black reproduction, color gamut support, viewing angle, screen package size, power usage(dark color), etc

You kept rambling about how an OLED display is an inferior tech to normal LCD but didn't post a single reason why it's inferior outside of possible production limitations

 

[fertilized-egg]

You kept rambling about how an OLED display is an inferior tech to normal LCD but didn't post a single reason why it's inferior outside of possible production limitations

I have used a few OLED products, including a Cowon MP3 player and a Samsung Galaxy S phone, and I don't think it's as great as many make it out to be at this point in time. It's pretty bad with battery since most reading content such as websites are mostly white. For many of the current AMOLED products, the colors are often too oversaturated and inaccurate. Many have reported burn-ins. Also for the time being, it can't match LCD for pixel density without using pentile.

These are problems that will get better in time and I fully expect OLED to be the future at some point but for now, the technology is still immature and most importantly there isn't enough production to meet Apple's massive demand yet.

 

[tbrinkma]

Is this another one of those it's inferior because apple doesn't use it and it automatically gets better on the day it gets used in an apple product?

You know, it would have been nice to not 'snip' the *entire* post you're supposedly replying to. But, then, I suppose that would have made setting up your straw man a bit more difficult.

Here's my post:

So far, OLED, AMOLED+, SuperAMOLED+, etc. are *just about* keeping up with the equivalent state-of-the-art LCD technologies. They show a lot of promise, but they only have one advantage over the LCDs so far, and even that isn't a huge difference in practical terms.

You've listed all of the areas where OLED tech has the *potential* to surpass LCD tech. So far, the only place where it has a consistently measurable advantage over it's LCD equivalent is in it's black levels. Yes, OLED is a technology with a *lot* of potential, but it hasn't yet overcome the 'old-busted' LCD technologies.

Yes, it's very likely that Apple will move to OLED tech for its displays *eventually*. It's unlikely to happen, though, until OLED tech actually surpasses LCD tech in it's capabilities. It's gotten close, but those near-equivalent OLED displays are more expensive, and can't yet be produced in nearly as high volumes as the corresponding LCD displays. In the mean time, Apple has 'kept up' just fine using LCDs which still have advantages over the current-gen OLEDs. Obviously, I can't actually know when the change-over will happen, but based on the way the two technologies have progressed over the past few years I suspect it'll be sometime between 3-5 years from now.

There so many benefits for OLED display.
Contrast ratio, response time, black reproduction, color gamut support, viewing angle, screen package size, power usage(dark color), etc

You kept rambling about how an OLED display is an inferior tech to normal LCD but didn't post a single reason why it's inferior outside of possible production limitations

OLED does, as I mentioned, have quite a bit of potential to surpass LCD in all of those areas. Unfortunately, the current generation of OLED displays don't *currently* surpass the current generation of LCD displays in many of those areas.

• Black reproduction, yes this one is a win for OLED, no question. 'Actually black' is definitely blacker than 'very nearly black'.
• Color gamut, no, not currently the current OLED generation still over saturates it's colors.
• Viewing angle, it's pretty much a tie, and neither one is really going to improve much, since they've both nearly reached 180 degrees.
• Screen package size, OLED *sometimes* has a slight advantage in thickness here, but it depends on quite a few factors. Additionally, the OLED display generations which can be produced in larger-than-phone sizes still suffer from their older-generation problems. Once the process issues are hammered out for larger-size displays, this will stop being an issue, but even then, is it really important to shave a millimeter or so off the thickness of a desktop display, or a big-screen TV? Phones and tablets, sure, but non-mobile stuff? Not really.
• Power usage, not yet. (Also, I notice you changed from 'average' to 'dark colors' here.) There's a lot of potential for more efficient OLEDs to improve the power-efficiency of OLED displays, but they're certainly not there yet. On a typical screen, with it's largely white, or light-colored, background OLED is currently *worse* for efficiency than an LCD display. Largely dark screens give OLED a slight advantage, but on average, LCD comes out ahead.

Now to specifically address your straw man...
You said:

Is this another one of those it's inferior because apple doesn't use it and it automatically gets better on the day it gets used in an apple product?

I said:

Yes, it's very likely that Apple will move to OLED tech for its displays *eventually*. It's unlikely to happen, though, until OLED tech actually surpasses LCD tech in it's capabilities. It's gotten close, but those near-equivalent OLED displays are more expensive, and can't yet be produced in nearly as high volumes as the corresponding LCD displays.

Not the difference in cause vs. effect between our two statements. You claim I said it won't be any good until Apple uses it. What I actually said, is Apple won't use it until it's actually as good as LCD *and* it can be produced in the required quantities at reasonable prices.

 

[dba7dba]

Because Windows is a retail product.

Got it. So Apple should only sue about specific issues related to software, that is Android on the android devices. But they aren't. They are suing about the bezel, look and feel of the phone device itself. the list goes on. In the original 10 specific points they were suing about, about half were software related.

 

[sexyasianescort]

If that is true its funny cause they were at war a few months ago?

 

[Winter Charm]

Agreed. I just have a cheap set to be honest. 32-inch TV and $150 surround sound DVD player from Samsung. Not complaining, but when I upgrade, I'll do better research. Thanks!

Yeah, definitely do your upgrade only after some extensive research It may not be fun, but it's totally worth finding a system that fits together really well... I dropped a good bit of cash on mine, so I definitely did all the research I needed to before buying...

Also, Never *ever* buy bose speakers. No high end audio store carries them. For a GOOD reason...

 

[AidenShaw]

Agreed. I just have a cheap set to be honest. 32-inch TV and $150 surround sound DVD player from Samsung. Not complaining, but when I upgrade, I'll do better research. Thanks!

Yeah, definitely do your upgrade only after some extensive research It may not be fun, but it's totally worth finding a system that fits together really well... I dropped a good bit of cash on mine, so I definitely did all the research I needed to before buying...

Also, Never *ever* buy bose speakers. No high end audio store carries them. For a GOOD reason...

Just to add my 2¢ - if you really want to enjoy BD movies, plan on spending 50% of your budget on the TV screen, and the other 50% on the AV receiver and speakers. (Or, double your budget )

All of my sources (HTPC/BD/TiVo/Cable/OTA) connect to the AV receiver, and there's 1 HDMI cable to the TV. The AV crossbar controls everything (including upscaling with dual Faroudja scalers) - the TV only lights pixels. (And of course the TV speakers are disabled - if they weren't integrated into the set I'd have removed them.)

I do like my Bose QC3 headphones though - but usually I wear them without connecting a music source .

 

[Winter Charm]

Just to add my 2¢ - if you really want to enjoy BD movies, plan on spending 50% of your budget on the TV screen, and the other 50% on the AV receiver and speakers. (Or, double your budget )

All of my sources (HTPC/BD/TiVo/Cable/OTA) connect to the AV receiver, and there's 1 HDMI cable to the TV. The AV crossbar controls everything (including upscaling with dual Faroudja scalers) - the TV only lights pixels. (And of course the TV speakers are disabled - if they weren't integrated into the set I'd have removed them.)

I do like my Bose QC3 headphones though - but usually I wear them without connecting a music source .

Definitely true, sound matters just as much as the image, if not more (due to upscaling)

Bose over the ear headphones are nice, but really, their tiny boxlike home theatre speakers are SOOOO overrated, it's not even funny. The reason they have custom displays set up in stores is because If you compared them fairly, and tried to fill a large room with that kind of sound, the distortion at reasonable volume levels would make you set those little cubes on fire... It's god-awful...

A long time ago, bose was good. They charged more because you got the quality you paid for (much like apple charges more up-front for macs)... Now, they have gone the direction of the stinker... I'm glad apple is in good hands, and I hope apple avoids such a fate in the future.

Read here for more: http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

 

[LisaMaree]

SOOOO many butthurt apple defense force in here, it's so funny.

Just to put salt on your wounds, Samsung rocks.

Deal with it.

BTW, is apple gonna troll Samsung with more patent lawsuit?

In another word, you are butthurt because apple is being a complete douche to Samsung.

You seem quite obsessed with butts.. either that or you just learned the term and want to sound like a badass troll on the internet. Hint: Passing "Trolling 101" isn't all that impressive. That first post I quoted is a typical template for trolling; fill in any company name and you get the same tired boring flamebait. Can't you do better?

 

[kaizenmx]

You seem quite obsessed with butts.. either that or you just learned the term and want to sound like a badass troll on the internet. Hint: Passing "Trolling 101" isn't all that impressive. That first post I quoted is a typical template for trolling; fill in any company name and you get the same tired boring flamebait. Can't you do better?

Is that all you got? Cmon man at least try harder when you call someone out.

You quote my old posts that are almost a month old just because you are pissy with my truth posts regarding apple?

You want me to call a whambulance for you?

 

[Mr.damien]

Asus Transformer Prime is way much better than any iPad out there.
1920x1200 display, 18hrs battery and QWERTY keyboard.. oh and USB ports.

And now you can get practically the same software for it too, like Adobes stuff.
And you can even dual-boot it with Ubuntu Linux. Way more useful machine than iPad.

So better than iPad that the current sue from Transformers IP owners revealed to the court that only 2000 Transformer Prime has been sold, and amongst the buyer, there already is a class action against Asus as it's so crap.

It's so better that The Verge, Anandtech, Arstechni, all technicals sites said that the new iPad is the best out there...

Try again.