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As I already said, Apple should be sued too.

The iPhone X is absolutely not water resistant after some days of use, way off the advertised “30 minutes in 1.5m of water”. Or something.

More proof that the advertised IP67 water resistance is not real.

Has your account been hacked or something? This is a far cry from your usual “perfect Apple” patter. What changed?
 
I cannot recommend using a Galaxy Phone under water.
I used my Galaxy S7 near a pool and it got splashed. I tried to charge in the evening and it gave me a warning that water was still in the port.
A day later I got no more warning and let it charge. After a while I smelled something burned, ran to the phone and found it so hot I couldn't touch it. Turns out the port got toasted and no longer worked.
I got it all covered under warranty, but what a hassle and danger!
 
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Next they’ll have to sue apple for advertising that the watch comes with an ecg function...
 
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That has got to be, hands down, the best explanation and analogy I have seen, nicely put!!

Cars are designed To prevent rain from soaking the inside and the passengers (except jeeps/convertibles). So I guess if your new car leaks thru the sunroof seal you’ll shrug your shoulders and assume it’s not covered by the warranty?
 
x-evil-x Too busy sleeping. Go dig I’m sure you’ll find them over the last few years since the iPhone 7.

That was the first thing I did when you made that claim. I’ve never met someone that can post online while sleeping. Teach me your ways. ;)
 
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this is a basic understanding of warranties and how they differ from technical specifications.

Then Samsung should not advertise using the phone underwater in a pool.
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My iPhone X has been dropped in a pool twice and it’s fine.

How did you manage to drop your phone in a pool twice let alone a single time ?
 
As I already said, Apple should be sued too.

The iPhone X is absolutely not water resistant after some days of use, way off the advertised “30 minutes in 1.5m of water”. Or something.
Motorola phones are the best in water
 
That’s why I got insurance on my iPhone XS Max. I don’t want to have to worry about what happens if I put it under cold water to cool off in the summer or to get rid of fingerprints or smudges
 
As I already said, Apple should be sued too.

The iPhone X is absolutely not water resistant after some days of use, way off the advertised “30 minutes in 1.5m of water”. Or something.
Water resistance benefits the consumer, not the manufacturer. Hence, except for one phone that I know of, water damage is not covered under warranty. The phones are tested in ideal lab conditions and may have different water resistance depending on the actual incident.
 
just to clarify
About splash, water, and dust resistance of iPhone 7 and later
Learn about splash, water, and dust resistance on your iPhone. And learn what to do if your iPhone gets wet accidentally.


iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, iPhone XR, iPhone X, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone 7, and iPhone 7 Plus are splash, water, and dust resistant and were tested under controlled laboratory conditions.

iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max have a rating of IP68 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 2 meters up to 30 minutes). iPhone XR, iPhone X, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, iPhone 7, and iPhone 7 Plus have a rating of IP67 under IEC standard 60529 (maximum depth of 1 meter up to 30 minutes). Splash, water, and dust resistance are not permanent conditions and resistance might decrease as a result of normal wear. Liquid damage is not covered under warranty.

iPhone XS, iPhone XS Max, and iPhone XR are resistant to accidental spills from common liquids, such as soda, beer, coffee, tea, and juice. In the event of a spill, rinse the affected area with tap water, then wipe your iPhone off and dry it.

To prevent liquid damage, avoid these:

  • Swimming or bathing with your iPhone
  • Exposing your iPhone to pressurized water or high velocity water, such as when showering, water skiing, wake boarding, surfing, jet skiing, and so on
  • Using your iPhone in a sauna or steam room
  • Intentionally submerging your iPhone in water
  • Operating your iPhone outside the suggested temperature ranges or in extremely humid conditions
  • Dropping your iPhone or subjecting it to other impacts
  • Disassembling your iPhone, including removing screws
Minimize exposing your iPhone to soap, detergent, acids or acidic foods, and any liquids—for example, perfume, insect repellent, lotions, sunscreen, oil, adhesive remover, hair dye, and solvents. If your iPhone comes into contact with any of these substances, follow the instructions to clean your iPhone.

What should I do if my iPhone gets wet?
  1. If a liquid other than water splashes on your iPhone, rinse the affected area with tap water.
  2. Wipe your iPhone off with a soft, lint-free cloth—for example, a lens cloth.
Make sure that your iPhone is dry before opening the SIM tray.

To dry your iPhone, tap it gently against your hand with the Lightning connector facing down to remove excess liquid. Leave your iPhone in a dry area with some airflow. Placing your iPhone in front of a fan blowing cool air directly into the Lightning connector might help the drying process.

Don't dry your iPhone using an external heat source or insert a foreign object, such as a cotton swab or a paper towel, into the Lightning connector.

If my iPhone gets wet, can I charge it?
If your iPhone has been exposed to liquid, unplug all cables and do not charge your device until it’s completely dry. Using accessories or charging when wet might damage your iPhone. Allow at least 5 hours before charging with a Lightning cable or connecting a Lightning accessory.

For wireless charging, wipe off your iPhone with a soft, lint-free cloth—for example, a lens cloth. Make sure that your iPhone is dry before you place it on a compatible wireless charging mat.

What should I do if my iPhone got wet, and now its speaker sounds muffled?
Check to see if water is in the microphone or speaker: Place your iPhone, speaker side down, on a lint-free cloth and see if water drips out. Water in the port might degrade speaker or microphone performance until it completely evaporates. Dry your iPhone using the previous instructions.

What should I do if dust gets on my iPhone?
If dust or dirt gets on your iPhone, wipe it off with a soft, lint-free cloth—for example, a lens cloth. Make sure that your iPhone is free of dust before opening the SIM tray. Don't use cleaning products or compressed air.

Published Date: April 16, 2019

You forgot to change your font to 4 pt.
 
I have always thought Apple saying these devices have water resistance and then trying to say it’s excluded from warranty strange. That may hold up in some countries but they would be in for a fight in the UK. The consumer protection laws here would tend to lie with the consumer in those instances.

Apple might put a term out there - that doesn’t make it binding. If they advertise a product can do or resist something, they have to honour it.
 
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Finally! I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been downvoted and trashed for pointing out that none of these phones are water proof nor water resistant underwater. They may resist an accident in the specified water depth of 1.5m but that doesn’t mean people should go submerging their phones in water. It really is common sense. While Samsung took their marketing too far, the fact that electronics and water don’t mix is something that people learn really early on.

Of course there are some rugged products which are explicitly designed for underwater use but not these phones.
 
My iPhone X has submerged under 30 cm of water for 2 mins. The selfie camera got steamy from the inside and the phone is now completely trash because of the water damage.
Got steamy? Did you submerge it in hot water? That would tend to make any moisture in the air that's sealed inside the phone react badly.
 
They may resist an accident in the specified water depth of 1.5m but that doesn’t mean people should go submerging their phones in water.
Precisely. Another bit that most don't get is, the ratings on phones and watches and such are generally in terms of pressure resistance to water ingress, which gets oversimplified to a depth in feet/meters. When you slowly, gently, lower a phone or watch into water of the corresponding depth, it reaches the specified pressure level, sitting still. However, if you take it down to even something less than the advertised depth, and thrash it around, the water pressure it's subjected to is substantially higher (think about how hard it is to swing your arm around under water compared to in air - you're pressing your way through the water, that's generating higher pressures on the watch/phone). People hear a rating expressed in feet/meters, and think they can do anything with it at that depth. They're misunderstanding the ratings.

Now, if someone puts out a phone with one of the IP ratings that specifies protection against "Powerful water jets", or perhaps rated for water resistance to 5atm/50meters (a watch spec'd for 3atm/30m is said to be merely "splash/rain resistant", it takes 5atm/50m to be suitable for "shallow-water swimming") that'll be different. Sadly, there are plenty of people - even here in this thread - who think something rated to "1.5 meters" means they can take it swimming.
 
If you watch the iPhone 7 keynote they specifically mention its splash resistant and not waterproof. In fact in one of the original iPhone commercials it shows a man riding a bike with the iPhone getting wet with rain. It never shows the iPhone completely submerged which is the issue this article is talking about. Samsung specifically shows their phones submerged in its advertising.


And here is another ad where Apple shows specifically what they have stated on the Apple Support website.


And another



Regardless of what the ads say, the iPhone is allegedly rated to withstand being submerged for a period of time...when that time is a few moments, and your camera comes out steamy, it clearly didn't live up to its rating...which, while not in televised advertisements, is still a listed spec.
 
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More proof that the advertised IP67 water resistance is not real.
You should try yours. I’ve gotten mine wet plenty of times, without issue.
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Precisely. Another bit that most don't get is, the ratings on phones and watches and such are generally in terms of pressure resistance to water ingress, which gets oversimplified to a depth in feet/meters. When you slowly, gently, lower a phone or watch into water of the corresponding depth, it reaches the specified pressure level, sitting still. However, if you take it down to even something less than the advertised depth, and thrash it around, the water pressure it's subjected to is substantially higher (think about how hard it is to swing your arm around under water compared to in air - you're pressing your way through the water, that's generating higher pressures on the watch/phone). People hear a rating expressed in feet/meters, and think they can do anything with it at that depth. They're misunderstanding the ratings.

Now, if someone puts out a phone with one of the IP ratings that specifies protection against "Powerful water jets", or perhaps rated for water resistance to 5atm/50meters (a watch spec'd for 3atm/30m is said to be merely "splash/rain resistant", it takes 5atm/50m to be suitable for "shallow-water swimming") that'll be different. Sadly, there are plenty of people - even here in this thread - who think something rated to "1.5 meters" means they can take it swimming.
Well I sure hope I can take my series 4 watch swimming, especially since it counts swim laps in the workouts that are available for tracking.
 
Samsung is simply saying the safest option is to use you phone in water....just in case it wants to burst into flames.
 
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My Galaxy A5 (2017) have survived quite a bit under water and being washed frequently to clean it. So in my experience, Samsung's IP68 rating is quite good. Note that this is plain water in normal temperature. The beach + sea water imo is another story considering there are sand and salt water.

Having said that, here's the definition of the 8 rating in IP68
The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.
Note the bolded part. So in the end, it's the manufacturer, ie. Samsung, that can define the specific condition.
 
Actually you CAN use the Samsung phone under water. Lots of people routinely do exactly that.

Apple, on the other hand, Apple purposely avoids any attempt at making their products even minimally resistant to splashes. You can destroy any Apple product by simply knocking over a glass of water on the same table as where an Apple product is placed. If even a few drops of water get inside a vent, the Mac or iPhone is "toast".

I have actually seen Samsung phones used in the ocean fully submerged for over 20 minutes in salt water.


It is also possible to clean a Samung phone under a running tap with soap.
 
That has got to be, hands down, the best explanation and analogy I have seen, nicely put!!
Not really a good analogy, surprised by the support.

A more similar analogy would be Tesla showing their car in a crash and the car is left undamaged. Samsung is implying that their phone can withstand tougher conditions than it actually can. That’s much different than a windshield breaking in a situation it’s supposed to break.
 
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