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samsung thinks AMOLED is better than Retina Display? Let's see...

apfhex said:
Has there been any detailed writeups on the SAMOLED display yet? Arstech had this great one on the N1's AMOLED screen and it seems to me that it's really not very good, but I haven't seen one in person. What I do know is the iPad's IPS display is fantastic (as long as you can get one with even backlighting :( - hoping the smaller iPhone 4 size will minimize that problem) — near infinite viewing angle, very vibrant colors — so taking that with a better bonding process moving the pixels closer to the surface and WAY higher PPI, I think the iPhone 4's screen will be king when it comes out. Remains to be seen though. Samsung doesn't have any SAMOLED screens out there yet either, do they?
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Is the viewing angle on the 3GS bad? Aside from the glare on the glass I don't understand how the current phone has a bad viewing angle.
 
lilo777 said:
Well, one kind of has to assume that Samsung which produces both LCD and OLED panels knows this stuff better than Apple (which produces none of them). Do you really think that Samsung uses more expensive AMOLED panels in their best products because those panels are worse than LCD?
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Because AMOLED is a buzz word and the saturated colors are eye-catching. Perhaps it saves power in real-world usage, but it's also going to be more expensive to include in a device BOM.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Because AMOLED is a buzz word and the saturated colors are eye-catching. Perhaps it saves power in real-world usage, but it's also going to be more expensive to include in a device BOM.
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AMOLED is the technology, and is not the buzzword (unless you refer to the key term?).
 
diamond.g said:
Is the viewing angle on the 3GS bad? Aside from the glare on the glass I don't understand how the current phone has a bad viewing angle.
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It's not bad at all. I've never even thought about it. But IPS in the iPad, and on the ACDs for that matter, is pretty much 179º (as at 180º, you wouldn't be able to see the screen anymore ;)).
 
drpellypo said:
Samsung make me laugh! They kick up a fuss about SJ's comment but look at their phone. It's practically a Chinese knock off! A complete carbon copy of the iPhone. When i first saw it i actually thought it was a joke!
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Samsung is a tech giant compared to Apple (market cap aside). Did you know that A4 chip used in iPads and iPhone 4 is manufactured by Samsung? And NAND flash, and probably half of the guts in all Apple products.
 
lilo777 said:
Samsung is a tech giant compared to Apple (market cap aside). Did you know that A4 chip used in iPads and iPhone 4 is manufactured by Samsung? And NAND flash, and probably half of the guts in all Apple products.
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Don't forget the display panels for the monitors and laptops.
 
actorkid said:
I'm not sure how each pixel relates to sharpness, but i do know that a PPI of slightly over 200 is definitely not over 300, therefore pixels can be distinguished by the human eye.

This is why, IMO I think I'll prefer the Retina Display.
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I'm not sure how they're calculating sharpness either, but whether or not pixels can be distingushed depends on both color cycle width (~PPI) _and_ distance.

At less than a foot away, the iPhone 4 does NOT have a "retina display". At over a foot and a half away, the Samsung suddenly DOES have a "retina display".

For many of us, the difference is difficult to see anyway :)

Perhaps more important is how the colors are presented. Some say AMOLEDs are oversaturated. Some have complained in the past the iPhone LCDs were too blue or too yellow. It's up to the user/owner to decide what they like.
 
kdarling said:
I'm not sure how they're calculating sharpness either, but whether or not pixels can be distingushed depends on both color cycle width (~PPI) _and_ distance.

At less than a foot away, the iPhone 4 does NOT have a "retina display". At over a foot and a half away, the Samsung suddenly DOES have a "retina display".
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Good point, but it would seem Apple is kind of leaning on the print industry for a standard here. Rather than admitting that there are 2 variables (ppi and d), they say that the reading distance based on the print industry is so established that you can effectively remove d from the equation beyond a certain point and proclaim it a one variable equation, PPI.
 
chrmjenkins said:
Good point, but it would seem Apple is kind of leaning on the print industry for a standard here. Rather than admitting that there are 2 variables (ppi and d), they say that the reading distance based on the print industry is so established that you can effectively remove d from the equation beyond a certain point and proclaim it a one variable equation, PPI.
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Apple could've said "print quality", but perhaps they avoided it because Toshiba already used that phrase for the 313 PPI display on their G900 Windows Mobile phone, back in 2007.
 
maflynn said:
I think its personal preference but I do agree with the other poster, we really need to wait and see since the iPhone isn't out yet.

Personally, I'm blown away by the vivid colors and the blackness of black that the AMOLED provides.

I'm a bit confused by Samsung's statement that the LCD is more power hungry then the AMOLED, I thought the opposite was true, AMOLED is a power pig.

anyone care to chime in on which one is more efficient?

As for outside, yeah the performance of the AMOLED outside is pretty aweful, but when I know I'll be outside, I'll increase the brightness and its workable.
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AMOLED is based on LED's and so I thought that it would be inherently highly energy efficient.
 
no matter what text will look the same on both devices no matter what all the marketing crap says. It will all look the same to us and only fanboys will be bickering on ppi and AMOLED.
 
Apollo 13 said:
no matter what text will look the same on both devices no matter what all the marketing crap says. It will all look the same to us and only fanboys will be bickering on ppi and AMOLED.
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No, the average person can tell the difference. Going from a low dpi screen to a high dpi screen is night and day. The average person will be able to have an opinion on colors, sharpness and sunlight visibility. All of the improvements will be tangible. However, as kdarling pointed out, the differing opinions will likely settle on different preferences.
 
chrmjenkins said:
No, the average person can tell the difference. Going from a low dpi screen to a high dpi screen is night and day. The average person will be able to have an opinion on colors, sharpness and sunlight visibility. All of the improvements will be tangible. However, as kdarling pointed out, the differing opinions will likely settle on different preferences.
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we'll see about that when the phone is release and it gets compared to other phones. One thing that helps the other phones is the size being bigger.
 
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