Samsung to Debut First OLED Laptop Display With Integrated Touch Sensors Next Week

code-m said:
What if the option to use ApplePencil 2 or even an unreleased 3 would exist to interact with the TouchScreen OLED Mac would you still be game. Consider if that pencil attaches magnetically to the Mac laptop similar to iPad Pro.

Now you have one machine for work and play vice two expensive machines. What if one could use FreeForm with ApplePencil 2 on a Mac directly interacting with the screen, sign documents, notes, draw etc etc.

Just because the late Steve Jobs the marketer made a singular argument a long time ago does not mean the customers and market have not evolved. Think Different was it not Apple.
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apple pencil on mac should work only in vertical input...so Apple can or should allow apple pencil support on trackpads that are already big enough
Steve understood that physics never lie...so that argument is still standing now and forever
 
maflynn said:
I hate laptops with numpads and trackpads that are off centered to thelaptop.
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Me too! There are sooo many Windows laptops that I've looked at that have everything I want -- but they have that awful off-centered keyboard.

I use the number pad routinely when I'm at my desk with my full-sized keyboard. But I don't want it on my laptop.
 
Mr. Dee said:
For casual interaction, it does have its use cases. I use it a lot on my Surface Pro in laptop mode and its actually nice to use. Having it as a feature you can optionally use is not bad.
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Maybe, but the problem there is that you pay the cost 100% of the time for a feature you use ~10% of the time - in both actual dollar amount when purchasing the product so Apple maintains their gross margin, and in the added weight of the touch panel.
 
PowerMac5500 said:
I think we're misinterpretuing the clues... I would venture that this is a dual screen device, or folding screen device, no physical keyboard. In other words, hinge two iPads together and boot macOS.
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Clues?

They actually go into detail about what it is. It's a new type of touchscreen, similar to lamination which reduces layers, which is good for a number of reasons. I suppose they could also have dual screens. Why not? :)

I really like the Samsung stuff, but the 2-in-1 360 has an annoying glossy screen, which some may like, but there's something about it that maybe could be improved. Not all glossy screens are objectionable.
 
UltimateSyn said:
Maybe, but the problem there is that you pay the cost 100% of the time for a feature you use ~10% of the time - in both actual dollar amount when purchasing the product so Apple maintains their gross margin, and in the added weight of the touch panel.
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Thats an assumption you making that its gonna be an added cost and that its gonna add weight. What if its a different SKU that you optionally have to buy? You are not prevented from purchasing a conventional MacBook Pro like you always have.

Read Jason Snells latest review of the M2 MacBook Pro. Even he is concluding that for most, the M2 MackBook Air or even the M1 model is more than enough power for most users. A touch enabled MacBook Pro might have an initial up front cost, but over time, the feature like it does in every Apple product line will trickle down.

No one is forced to buy a iPhone 14 Pro to get Dynamic Island or a 1 TB iPad Pro just to get 8 GBs of RAM. Yet, an iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Pro are functionally the same device running the same OS.
 
Mr. Dee said:
Thats an assumption you making that its gonna be an added cost and that its gonna add weight. What if its a different SKU that you optionally have to buy? You are not prevented from purchasing a conventional MacBook Pro like you always have.
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Yes, it is an assumption that we are talking about the MacBook Pro being made to be touch-compatible, rather than a new product or optional SKU. I highly doubt Apple would give us an optional Add Touch for $200 type option, it's not like them. If we're talking about a separate device altogether then fine, they can bring it on.
Mr. Dee said:
Read Jason Snells latest review of the M2 MacBook Pro. Even he is concluding that for most, the M2 MackBook Air or even the M1 model is more than enough power for most users. A touch enabled MacBook Pro might have an initial up front cost, but over time, the feature like it does in every Apple product line will trickle down.
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Ahhh, like the last time they added Touch to the MacBook! With the Touch Bar! ;) There is already significant product differentiation between the MBA vs. 14" MBP even before you start talking about power, but that's sort of besides the point. The ~$30 for the touch panel (or whatever it costs) would be better served either reducing the price of the machine, or going into components that would be used a higher percentage of the time.
 
everlast3434 said:
Apple will be hot on their heels doing similar in the next 5 years LOL
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Before anyone gets their knickers in a bind over Samsung's announcement, Samsung would much prefer to sell Apple OLED panels to install in MacBooks rather than sell laptops/notebooks themselves.

Samsung would much rather be in the component business instead of the consumer electronics business. They throw all this new hardware out as a proof of concept rather than for market share.

Samsung shows that it is possible, then Apple perfects the user experience. This is the way.....
 
TheYayAreaLiving 🎗 said:
I’m happy about the OLED display Macs. But a Touch Screen Mac? Not so much. I don’t find them appealing and it will be a fingerprint disaster. In addition, Productivity wise, I don’t find them useful either. It becomes a distraction.
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I see a usecase for a lighter laptop e.g. a 15 inch MacBook Air: fold-it around 360° as a tablet - to annotate, scribble or draw. Not the same as an iPad - but if you just have to carry around one device, that is a huge win.

Currently, I carry around a 16 inch MacBook Pro and a 12.9 inch iPad Pro.
 
UltimateSyn said:
Yeah, I totally agree. I think the perfect hybrid type device would be what is essentially a regular iPad Pro that can be docked into a keyboard / trackpad / battery extender that is basically the bottom half of a MacBook. Ideally it would run iPadOS in tablet mode and macOS in laptop mode, but that gets tricky when you have differing available features and experiences for the user depending on the use case, so I'd be fine with just macOS (or iPadOS with a few more developments).

Edit: I think they are headed in the right direction with the iPad / Magic Keyboard combination. IMO the Magic Keyboard needs a better / bigger trackpad, a function row, greater range of motion in the hinge, and a way to integrate some sort of extra battery without making the whole package 5lbs. That's a lot to improve on, but at the same time I think they're close to providing a really compelling 'hybrid' type device that could feasibly run on macOS.
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Yes - the problem is iPadOS for serious use. Once I have to do a more complex task, I pull-out my Laptop.
So if a (larger) iPad can run MacOS in Laptop-mode - that would also be a great hybrid device.

iPadOS is getting better slowly - and you can do more (e.g. Email writing is ok, if you don't do too many attachments) these days - but at the end you always hit a wall ...
 
UltimateSyn said:
The ergonomics of a touchscreen on a traditional laptop form-factor are so awful.
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Yes - that is essentially *not* the way to use it.

(although when I switch from the iPad to the Laptop I sometimes try to do this ...)
 
joecomo said:
iPadOS is getting better slowly - and you can do more
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Can a touch first device truly match or exceed the sheer utility and function of a laptop? It can get closer, but as you get closer it, the tablet starts looking more like a laptop, i.e., external keyboard, trackpad, mouse. The pure tablet experience has a number of hindrances inherent with the deign. Don't get me wrong, the iPad is an awesome device, but no matter how hard I tried to use it, I find it falls into media consumption. Any time I have work to do, I use my laptop. I'm really happy to see iPad OS getting more capable, and powerful, but as you mentioned, sometimes its just easier to whip out the laptop instead of trying it on the iPad
 
Kylo83 said:
Samsung laptops have a horrible display panel the colour is always over saturated and not true natural colour so even with OLED it will still be bad, they just look at apple leaks and try to be quicker
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Samsung has OLED Windows laptop/tablet hybrid since many years ago.
It’s called Galaxy Book.
I had one and the display was fantastic
,the display was wayyyy better than Macbook Pro which I also had.
It’s actually Apple who’s last to the OLED party.
 
UltimateSyn said:
The ergonomics of a touchscreen on a traditional laptop form-factor are so awful.
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That old clip made the assumption that if touch is available it will be the only interaction mode. In fact, users with touch screens and other input devices switch between modes fairly dynamically. i often use an iPad in a keyboard stand with a mouse to the side. When my hand feels a little tired of using the mouse, I switch to touch for a while and then switch back. I did the same thing a few years ago when I was using a windows laptop with a touch screen. Sometimes you use the keyboard, sometimes you use the trackpad and sometimes the mouse feels better.
 
UltimateSyn said:
iPad + MK isn’t the traditional clamshell laptop form-factor to which I was referring. Not even close. I elaborate more on what I *do* think is a good idea above and it’s basically the iPad + MK evolved.

The MK design purposefully floats the iPad towards the user and above the keyboard, making it more accessible for touch. And the screen is detachable. It’s not the same as throwing touch on a clamshell laptop.
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There is very, very little difference in distance when reaching past the laptop keyboard vs reaching past the Magic Keyboard. Neither one is an onerous task for an intermittent action. In fact, the raise position of the Magic Keyboard makes using touch to screen harder. I scroll on my iPad in a keyboard case by setting my hand to the side of the screen+keyboard and scrolling with my thumb. the MK makes it higher and harder to reach.
 
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