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Sure, if you consider the Newton a successful product.

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What does that have to do with anything? Was the 2002 tablet pc a successful product?
 
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What are you going on about. I’m an iPhone user and very much in the Apple ecosystem. Your inability to concede Samsung makes good hardware and has some neat software (multitasking/split screen to name one) doesn’t preclude Apple from also making great hardware software. But the annoying “Samsung sucks and copies Apple” is about as fresh as 2009.

Sure it can. It is actually possible to love and use Apple while acknowledging Samsung and others make impressive hardware and software.
I was replying to your assertion, that there is nothing Apple does better than Samsung, nothing to do with whether Samsung makes good hardware!
There is nothing on a Samsung that I would want, there are a couple of neat features on Pixel 8 Pro, that I would like to see on the iPhone though!
 
Samsung actually has a good product and good ideas. For example, they provide a portion of their screens to Apple, which shows how advanced their hardware is.

I wish they would stop copying Apple in EVERYTHING and come up with their own identity, like Xiaomi or Google.
Samsung is the No.1 supplier and manufacturer of screen tech, they also supply Sony their QD Oled tech, but Sony still makes a better TV's
 
Android users when Apple copies Android phones: Where's the "innovation"? We've had that since 1786! Apple Sheep! 😡

Android users when Android manufacturers copy Apple: It's totally good that companies copy each other! It's always better for the consumer 😇
 
Honestly, does anyone actually care that it is titanium? I have a 15 Pro Max and the fact that it is titanium is essentially irrelevant to me. I love my titanium bike and that it is special, but the titanium on my phone is irrelevant as far as my opinion is concerned.
 
Seriously thinking of going Samsung flagship. Not because I don't like the iPhone platform, but because I've been on it since the 4s and it's become the new landline. I miss the feeling of "new". Learning an entirely new platform, even if worse in some areas, should achieve that.
 
You know what really would take courage...? Embracing the environmental friendly material finewoven for the chassis.
I would LOVE for a gadget that biodegrades over time. Makes recycling easier, thus more friendly to Mother Nature. ❤️
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PS: That FineWoven fiasco is just the same as Mercedes E-Class W124 era (early 90s) that uses biodegradable material for their wiring harness. Boy oh boy...
 
I really hope this rumor isn't true.

Samsung already uses Aluminum with a hardened coating called Aluminum armor which resists scratches. This is a superior product to Titanium.

Titanium is great for certain uses but a phone frame is probably the worst because it will transfer shock instead of absorb it. Titanium is naturally as soft as aluminum in regards to scratches.

So using Titanium will not reduce weight, won't be more scratch resistant, actually is worse from a mechanical engineering standpoint. Plus it is about 5 times as expensive as aluminum.

Apples marketing around the Titanium frame was really strong. Like every commercial you see is only about Titanium.

When did Titanium become so special.....
 
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Yes, because this is something they could have done in less then 2 months time, and not in the usual +1 year it takes to even develop a simple follow-up, never mind the article mentioning they've been working on this for over 2 years.
Rumors have been rampant for a long time about Apple using titanium, and every company has sources into what the other companies are doing. Samsung had plenty of time to change its plans. Personally, I think the only egregious copying Samsung has done was to copy the original iPhone in its look and feel. That was blatant copying that led to multi year lawsuits. Once that was done, everybody copies the best features from everyone else.
 
Yes, because this is something they could have done in less then 2 months time, and not in the usual +1 year it takes to even develop a simple follow-up, never mind the article mentioning they've been working on this for over 2 years.
Taking that "L". Whew, god bless you child.
 
Rumors have been rampant for a long time about Apple using titanium, and every company has sources into what the other companies are doing. Samsung had plenty of time to change its plans. Personally, I think the only egregious copying Samsung has done was to copy the original iPhone in its look and feel. That was blatant copying that led to multi year lawsuits. Once that was done, everybody copies the best features from everyone else.
Whilst I agree with you, Samsung ridiculed Apple for the notch, leaving out the 3.5mm jack, leaving out a power plug, and no earbuds. Samsung, in particular have a lot of history 'saying' these are bad things to copy and do it anyway. They even made adverts against the notch, the power brick, leaving out the earbuds and the 3.5mm jack. Samsung have no credibility in phone design. They even copied Google's hinge in their fold when there’s was rubbish and couldn’t close flat.
 
The fun part is that Apple marketed this "feature" so relentlessly, that there is no way Samsung could promote the switch to Titanium without looking even more stupid :D
They constantly promote features that they have ridiculed Apple for only a few months prior. They don’t care about looking stupid.
 
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The fallacy of the iPhone being "made of Titanium" does not escape me. Marketing at it's finest. To say the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max is made of titanium is to call a cheap particle board desk from Wal-Mart a "solid wood" desk. The phone is constructed with an aluminum chassis and frame with a thin veneer of titanium bonded to the aluminum frame wall.

What will be interesting to see is if Samsung tries the same trick, or instead opts to build the entire chassis/frame of the S24 Ultra from a single, solid piece of titanium. If Samsung takes the latter route, then they would have the only true titanium made phone. It would also be interesting to see what kind of real weight savings (if any) Samsung could obtain from a true titanium made phone.
 
Honestly, does anyone actually care that it is titanium? I have a 15 Pro Max and the fact that it is titanium is essentially irrelevant to me. I love my titanium bike and that it is special, but the titanium on my phone is irrelevant as far as my opinion is concerned.
The only reason I care about titanium is that this phone is noticeably lighter. It really does make a difference, especially since I don’t use a case.

I don’t actually care that it’s titanium that’s doing it, though.
 
The fallacy of the iPhone being "made of Titanium" does not escape me. Marketing at it's finest. To say the iPhone 15 Pro/Pro Max is made of titanium is to call a cheap particle board desk from Wal-Mart a "solid wood" desk. The phone is constructed with an aluminum chassis and frame with a thin veneer of titanium bonded to the aluminum frame wall.

What will be interesting to see is if Samsung tries the same trick, or instead opts to build the entire chassis/frame of the S24 Ultra from a single, solid piece of titanium. If Samsung takes the latter route, then they would have the only true titanium made phone. It would also be interesting to see what kind of real weight savings (if any) Samsung could obtain from a true titanium made phone.
They have not done this. They have always said it was bonded titanium. And it’s not even a veneer as it is 50% aluminium and 50% titanium. This was proved through the recent teardown.

Samsung won’t make an all titanium frame until Apple does.
 
Expecting Titanium on the high end Samsung. Not the first time Samsung is following Apple
 
The only reason I care about titanium is that this phone is noticeably lighter. It really does make a difference, especially since I don’t use a case.

I don’t actually care that it’s titanium that’s doing it, though.
The weight savings apply to iPhone onnly because it used a steel case. Samsung phones are using aluminum. There is not much to save there.
 
The fun part is that Apple marketed this "feature" so relentlessly, that there is no way Samsung could promote the switch to Titanium without looking even more stupid :D
Does this also mean they'll be switching back to aluminum in two years, like what happened with the heavily marketed Titanium PowerBook G4?
 
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