I will not lie,I admit that with Face ID I have entered the password every now and then. But no where as much as with Touch ID. Particularly with moist fingers, on the lovely British weather.
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Samsung to Slash OLED Panel Production on 'Weak Demand' for iPhone X, Claims Nikkei
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I will not lie,I admit that with Face ID I have entered the password every now and then. But no where as much as with Touch ID. Particularly with moist fingers, on the lovely British weather.
They ‘claim’ it is the top selling iPhone for the period since it launched last year, however Apple in its usual fashion doesn’t provide sales figures to back it up, just overall ones, not product independent figures.
It’s a damn nice phone that hopefully will drop in price now, I’ve seen it start to be discounted.
Are you suggesting Apple is lying about sales on an earnings call? Something that would provide a nice big bullseye for the FTC?
Apple tested the absolute limits of what they could charge for a smartphone and got their answer. I bought one, absolutely against my better judgement.
It's a great phone don't get me wrong, but every time I think about the price it takes some of the enjoyment away. It's simply not worth that much (nor is any smartphone).
It's a great phone don't get me wrong, but every time I think about the price it takes some of the enjoyment away. It's simply not worth that much (nor is any smartphone).
Article writers need to be careful using words like "weak demand". Just because demand might fall short of predictions didn't mean it's weak. Doing so is a gross misapplication of statistics. It's also turning analyst predictions into ground truth, which they are not.
I don’t know, how can anyone? As I said they haven’t provided individual product sales figures so far as I know, just make statements.
It’s like the Apple Watch, does Apple claim it sells more then any other fitness device? Because I have an Apple Watch and love it, I see others wearing it, but I see far far far more FitBits on people’s wrists.
Meh I will be stupid enough to buy an iPhone X soon enough instead of wait for the next one and the X price to drop for certain. It’s a damn nice and solid (think iPhone 4) phone.
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Totally agree! I see the "X" iPhone being used everywhere...including the one in my hand.
Well, charged words like "addiction" notwithstanding, OS is a huge component. For most consumers once they commit to an OS they are married to it for better or worse because it's so time consuming and expensive (app purchases, accessories, etc) to switch unless they are OK with just starting from scratch. There are not a whole lot of buyers left that have yet to have selected an OS. Samsung/Google vs iPhone is mostly a war of appearances now. There are decent handsets on either side. Android is pretty much on par with iOS -- not that each doesn't have unique pro and cons.
Samsung or Google could come out with the most killer, light years ahead phone. I still would not be inclined (actually I'd never buy a Google branded anything as long as Google's main revenue is from advertising and data mining). I have deep issues with iOS, and iPhones HAVE become boring commodities -- Animojis having to be a major feature is evidence of this -- but I'm going to dance with the one I brought until the dance is over. I'm committed to iOS, but it's solely up to Apple as to when I'm motivated to buy another handset though. Samsung and Google have no say in the matter.
I don’t think you understand how serious it would be for Apple (the highest publicity company on the planet) to mislead with such statements in an earnings call. To coyly suggest they’re lying behind “we don’t know the exact numbers” ignores how hard the hammer would fall onto a company that everyone is paying attention to.
You say the X doesn't have the best camera, but it isn't clear cut as that. Sure, the Pixel2 takes the best photos but that is just because it has a better camera app at the moment, rather than any better hardware (the iPhone seems to apply too much noise reduction for example). But for video the iPhone X is by far the best (which is why I got it). It makes a nice compliment to my DSLR when taking video on holiday. The Samsung phones have problems with autofocus and the the Pixel2 doesn't support some of the video modes Apple does (e.g. 4K 60fps).
So for me, because one of my main uses for it is a video camera, the extra cost is worth it.
Agreed, with the X, apple caught up with the likes of Samsung, in its offering a full screen phone with wireless charging. Like Samsung's facial recognition, FaceId is not all unicorns and rainbows. It works, but not all the time.
I'm spending over a 1,000 dollars on a phone, so I expect that the technology works as advertised. My issue with FaceId is not unique, other people have also stated similar frustrations
That’s quite funny. Where I live I see more iPhone X than 6-8 but as a one-time owner of it I really didn’t like it so returned it for an 8 Plus. I live in a multicultural city in Europe with a lot of eastern Asian students and that group seems to have embraced it.... which is weird considering that group reportedly doesn’t work well with FaceID (I am half-Japanese and had trouble with it).
However I find the notch a horrible compromise. Nobody I know has 8 but then again none of my friends family or employees own anything other than Android phones except my wife with her SE.
I think it's the current news obsession with hyperbole that bothers folks. We hear all this doom and gloom around this cycle of iPhone sales--particularly with the X, and then the results come out and Apple is lapping people at this point. So, how do you square those results with this barrage of negative sky-is-falling articles week after week?
Anyway, I don't think anyone is saying you can't improve the iPhone X. I know that FaceID for me works 95-98% of the time. The only time it doesn't work is when I have it two inches from my face at night when I am not wearing my glasses. But, again, it isn't perfect, there is room for improvement. It just isn't a failure.
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All of these posts are kind of silly on both sides. The plural of anecdote is not anecdata. Clearly the new batch of iPhones is selling just fine.
Yes they probably are. I’m not really that interested I just wanted to throw in my experience. Deep down I don’t care about telephones like some do I’m more interested in how fans on both sides react. Fanboy wars!
I call into question the extent of Nikkei's claims. Samsung may be cutting production as it does in every product cycle, they likely don't need as many displays at this point. I don't think this translates into poor sales of the X.
Like everyone else, I log onto my phone every time I pick it up (and that's a lot in a day) so the faceID vs. touchID was a feature that had to remain easy or become simpler. In my experience, it has become much simpler and as an X owner, I love it.
I also offer this statement... What notch?
Like everyone else, I log onto my phone every time I pick it up (and that's a lot in a day) so the faceID vs. touchID was a feature that had to remain easy or become simpler. In my experience, it has become much simpler and as an X owner, I love it.
I also offer this statement... What notch?
Yeah, I'm wearing glasses and my success rate is closer to 80%
IphoneX sales could be less than 20% of total weekly sales and still be the top seller because of how the 8/8+/7/7+/SE could be selling. Some people could consider that a failed new product.
Just purchased and 8 plus here. Would love a new design but not with a 450$ down payment
I guess that's a matter of opinion and how the results are presented. Based on the Q1 results it looks like Apple sold between 20M and 25M of the iPhone X. That is way below initial forecasts of 35M - 40M. Based on the Q2 estimates it looks like the iPhone X has pretty much peaked and is not going to sell at the same rate through March as was expected when massive six-month shortages were predicted. Overall it looks like the X will sell somewhere in the 50M range for FY 2018 when estimates were for 80M.
It is all about expectations, and the predicted supercycle didn't materialize. It is very likely Apple talked to Samsung about supplying 80M display panels and now only needs 50M to meet the demand.
Apple isn't lying to its shareholders and they didn't publicly acknowledge any of the supply rumors, but I don't think anyone can argue that the X is selling at the rate that investors (an likely Apple internally) had expected.
But we don’t know the numbers. That’s a fact. Apple is deliberately vague in their wording, only saying that it’s been the best selling iPhone each month since its release. Is that surprising, since it released months after the 8? Is there any realistic scenario in which it would be outsold by the SE in recent months? No. So the information Apple provided just tells us the obvious, nothing more.
Remind me who has the lion’s share of profits in the smartphone market again?
Synaptics has just announced the ability to place a fingerprint scanner under the screen. I had hoped Apple would take this route.
I don't care for FaceID. I want to have to unlock my phone apart from just looking at it. TouchID also gives me the opportunity to allow my spouse or daughter to access my phone easily in case of a personal emergency. Without multi-user support on iOS, TouchID is the only solution for this--and this is a critical medical issue for me.
From what I’ve heard here and elsewhere, nobody really complains that the X isn’t worth $200 more than the 8. It’s the fact that the 8 is already ~$800,which is expensive. So, a thousand for a phone is a lot. I think people would feel more justified if the 8 were $600 and the X $800. Not just from being cheaper, but that the 8 looks the same as older phones (though it has nice upgrades), so something that seems old because of form factor should be cheaper. I think everyone would’ve been happy if Apple had just stuck to their “traditional” price point.
Honestly, I kind of feel that way too, whether or not it is justified or rational. When it comes down to it, I don’t want to pay $1000 for a phone because it is a symbolic price point, it is the entrance to four-digit numbers. Even if the phone is worth that. That is the price of an iPad and almost the price of a MacBook. It is four times the price of a crappy laptop. Now, I know it is somewhat counter-intuitive that something smaller and somewhat less powerful costs more, but from a technological standpoint it makes sense: smaller and powerful technology is harder to design and make and costs more. But at the end of the day, it is a phone (even if I use it for so many other things).
Again, I’m not being rational or logical, I know. Think I’m getting old, lol. Now, if my phone were my primary device as it is for a lot of people these days, I’d have no problem. But, I need an iPad and MacBook Pro for my workflow. In the end, whatever the X does, it is the “phone” of my life and workflow... can’t justify in my mind paying as much for it as I did my iPad Pro 12.9 that is, in the end, infinitely more useful to ME.
Just my two cents.
Honestly, I kind of feel that way too, whether or not it is justified or rational. When it comes down to it, I don’t want to pay $1000 for a phone because it is a symbolic price point, it is the entrance to four-digit numbers. Even if the phone is worth that. That is the price of an iPad and almost the price of a MacBook. It is four times the price of a crappy laptop. Now, I know it is somewhat counter-intuitive that something smaller and somewhat less powerful costs more, but from a technological standpoint it makes sense: smaller and powerful technology is harder to design and make and costs more. But at the end of the day, it is a phone (even if I use it for so many other things).
Again, I’m not being rational or logical, I know. Think I’m getting old, lol. Now, if my phone were my primary device as it is for a lot of people these days, I’d have no problem. But, I need an iPad and MacBook Pro for my workflow. In the end, whatever the X does, it is the “phone” of my life and workflow... can’t justify in my mind paying as much for it as I did my iPad Pro 12.9 that is, in the end, infinitely more useful to ME.
Just my two cents.