The functionality existed on Android for a long time. This is just a new implementation from Samsung.
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Samsung's Answer to AirDrop Finally Arrives With the Galaxy S20
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Just imagine when the occasional pair of people BOTH using Samsung phones, BOTH with this feature, actually get to use it! It will be like particles colliding in the Large Hadron Collider, an exciting occurrence.
False. There are only more Samsung devices if you count all those $50-100 phones they sell (which make up the majority of their sales). Their flagships only account for about 20% of their total sales.
The iPhone absolutely dominates Samsung in the flagship market. And ALL iPhones get AirDrop. Quick Share is only on the S20 right now with the promise that it’s coming to other phones in the future. Even if every Samsung flagship received Quick Share it would still only be on a fraction of the number of devices as iPhones.
The funniest thing about Quick Share is that Samsung thought there’d actually be 5 people near you with another Samsung phone.
You must be bad at statistics. Since there are more Samsung devices out there than Apple devices your statement (if true) would mean that two people with Apple devices just never meet.
Maybe. I've been using Samsung phones for several years, as has most of my family. We've never used anything like it. Honestly, I don't think we will now, either. Sharing via Photos may not be as seamless, but it works well enough. Now, being able to throw photos at my computer would be nice, as opening Photos and downloading is one step too many. Just today I wasted several seconds doing this. You think I joke, but it was kind of irritating.
And? Your arguments would make sense if non-flagship phones did not have bluetooth and WiFi. They do. They all can use this functionality. And speaking about the flagships... Considering how much better the best Samsung phones are than iPhones (5G, TOF, WIFi6, 5G, 16GB RAM, 1TB storage, 100MP cameras, variable aperture etc.) I am not sure any iPhones actually qualify to be called "flagships" anymore.
Exact tech specs aside, you dont think a $1 trilion company could make it work somehow some way? Many 3rd party as seems to make it work just fine. Even if it's a direct Wifi connection between devices or over the web- encrypt it via icloud and all is fine.
The iCloud PC app already has to stay open on your pc to use the icloud drive sync. How hard would be pushing a file over the air to that app on the PC or vice versa? Not hard. Many many 3rd party apps can do this.
Let's not make excuses about tech mumbo jumbo "it's so hard only Apple can do it." That some Schiller or Ive marketing line telling us to shut stop complaining by explaining how complex it is.
Im not trying to bash Apple as an 11 year iphone user, but lets not pretend they even try to play nice with anyone not Apple or care that 90%+ of the world uses PC not Mac. Probably a huge percent of their user base.
It's a big philosophy mistake IMO to tout privacy and then say well if you have a PC or other non-Apple product to use with it, well you're on your own sorry. To me that just signals they "care" about privacy as far as they can sell you stuff in their own interest.
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Which is "better" is debatable, but flagship doesn't mean the phone is the best in the industry. It means it is the premier product offered by the company.
None of that changes the fact Samsung sells a tiny fraction of the flagships as Apple does iPhones, or the fact the majority of Samsung phones sold are low-end devices missing features that Samsung reserves only for their flagships.
Your implication that all Samsung phones will get quick share just because they have BT and WiFi is rubbish. History has shown this is simply not true.
Your little dig to try and pretend iPhones aren’t flagships is nothing short of pathetic, and as I stated above, doesn’t change the fact Samsung is primarily a seller of low-end phones that just happens to also sell a few flagships.
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Still posting these lies. This has been explained to you in the past, so why do you continue to repeat these falsehoods?
Samsung sells mainly low-end phones. That’s the majority of their sales. The math doesn’t lie. The irony of you calling someone out on statistics when your argument is complete BS and easily disproven with basic math.
Great points. It's pretty much how I feel about Apple as well. I suppose it hasn't affected me as much since I've always had a Mac (I fell into the every designer HAS to have a Mac trap in high school). But once my 2013 retina dies, I think I might actually get a Windows laptop (currently have a gaming PC and I love Windows 10).
Apple could easily make those features available on PC. I mean ****, even on Android. I came form a Pixel 2 XL this past November and if iMessage was ever on Android, even for $5/month, I would gladly pay for it.
Don't even get me started with Siri, idc what anyone says here, that **** sucks man.
I think you should still consider looking into Android. There are still a couple things you can do to maintain privacy (turning off a ton history/tracking in your Google account, set FireFox to your default browser to avoid Chrome) if you're willing.
I was with iOS for years, gave Android a shot and LOVED it. Really loved every minute of using that phone (I suppose I'm a bit careless when it comes to my online privacy). I only switched back because the 11 pro seemed to be the best bang for your buck, but I will say the S20 is looking like it's going to pull me right back in.
That's part of the problem, the only Apple product I have owned is the phone. The watch and iPad have tempted me but not enough to drop the money that I "need" them. So Im not in the Ecosystem.
And we all are concerned about privacy, and how Edison Mail sells anonymized data from emails it collects when it hits the news, but then go use Chome on the PC (I do). its the best browser with best extensions and most popular. Its of course hypocritical; 99/100 people are guilty of it too.
The last time I used Android was a Galaxy S5, so 2013-2014? And that only lasted a few months as Android was still terrible then. Im considering an S20+ honestly once they go on a few hundred off sale.
I do get the "shiny new factor" is at play, but unless Apple steps up the iPhone 12 is going to be an embarrassing S model to the 11 series with a big ole notch and 60hz display still. The 11 already wasnt a huge step over the 10 or 10S. Squaring off the sides like the iphone 4 just wont be enough to get techy people excited.
Privacy is important but so is getting work done. And Apple refusing to work with others really makes that hard unless you are fully in their ecosystem; unlike everyone else who tries to play nice with others relatively.
This is coming from someone who has had every Apple phone every year since 2009 too.
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Low end phones run the same OS as the high end phones. They do not have high end hardware (like cameras) but there is no reason for them not to get file sharing features. If you look at the current data sharing capabilities (and Android has plenty of those), low end Samsung phones have them. What's your basis for claiming that this particular new feature will be an exception? general references to "history" are meaningless. Can you give specific examples where mid/low end Samsung phones lack basic features? Even the cheapest of them (like J2 - 2015 model) have Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot. BT, NFC etc.
Samsung Pay is an obvious feature that isn’t on the J2 (or any of their low end phones). You should have picked a different model to base your example on.
Oh, and the J2 is far from their cheapest model. I don’t know where you live, but it looks like you’re confining your experience with Samsung to somewhere like the US, which doesn’t see all the really cheap Samsung devices they sell worldwide. Samsung sells new phones with older versions of Android. They also sell new phones with Tizen. These will NEVER see this feature.
Your original premise was that because Samsung sells more phones than Apple, that this feature would be on more devices than Apple. That assertion is absolutely false for several reasons that have already been stated. Most of Samsung “smartphone” sales are dirt cheap models to countries like India, China or Africa. I don’t know why people think that all Samsung sells are flagships along with some midrange models. They primarily sell really cheap phones. That’s why their phone sales numbers are really high, but their ASP is so low.
Well, iPhone 11 with its 720p resolution does not necessarily qualify as a flagship phones either (at least not in Android ecosystem) and it's the most popular iPhone model. Somewhat compatible Samsung model (A20, 720p, 3GB RAM, AMOLED) costs $124.
J2 was released in 2015. Take something a little bit newer (like J5, 2016) and it does support Samsung Pay. Also, using Samsung Pay is a really bad example. Apple Pay is not supported in Africa, Latin America and many other countries around the world. Nor is Samsung Pay. It only makes sense to produce special models for those markets that don't support Samsung Pay (or Apple Pay for that matter).
So how is it going to kill AirDrop? By people loving it some much that they buy Samsung, and Apple goes out of business, and thus shutting down AirDrop lol? It's a poor word choice. This and AirDrop are not in direct competition with one another.
According to who? When you you become the arbiter of what's considered a flagship?
That iPhone 11 has a processor that'll stomp on any Android device on the planet, and it has Apps to utilize that power (unlike Fisher Price Android OS). It has NVMe storage and inline hardware encryption. Please list any Android devices that have either of those last two features. I'll bet you can't.
iPhones have had individually calibrated screens for years along with a properly functioning color management system (unlike Android). So that screen you're making fun of will actually properly render content in the correct color space. Something your flagship Samsung phones still can't do.
But hey, I understand the need to deflect. Your original comment has been proven wrong, so you're trying to move the goalposts.
I'll make this as simple as possible: Samsung Quick Share will be on a tiny fraction of devices compared to AirDrop. And I predict it'll only come to certain models, not ALL (or even most) Samsung phones as you have claimed. We can come back to this thread in 6 months and see where Quick Share is and who was right.
It might also be worth mentioning that airdrop works on macs as well. So most macOS devices after 2012! are capable of exchanging data with iOS devices.
It’s not just about iPhones or iPads.
It’s not just about iPhones or iPads.
And every Samsung is going to get this feature? I believe iPhone’s as far back as the iPhone 7 have AirDrop. I would imagine there are more iPhone 7’s or newer than Samsung phones that will be getting this feature.
iPhone 5 and later, actually. Tons and tons of iPhones.
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Why would Apple make Windows better if they can instead create a selling point for a Mac?
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You’re really reaching now. You named that phone yourself as an example of a low-end phone that has “all the features” (where by features, you’re stuck in a 1990s mind set of comparing hardware specs), and now you’re backtracking.
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To be honest, I’m surprised Samsung took this long. It’s usually the other way around and Apple copies them years later.
Yeah, all Apple devices from 2012 onwards. This means from the iPhone 5 onwards, ipad 4 onwards, and all Macs from 2012 and later. We are easily talking over a billion devices here.
This means that by this time, airdrop is pretty much standard issue on any Apple device that makes sense to sport it.
Yesterday during my meeting, we had to use our phones to scan a QR code to record our attendance. I turned on airdrop and counted over 20 iPhones detected, about ⅓ of the people in the room. And this is just amongst those who have enabled it (I will be “hunting” down those whose phones didn’t show up and getting them to enable said feature on their phones).
Even if Samsung rolls it out to all phones, what about laptops and desktops? Better late than never, I guess, but it will be a while before it can reach critical adoption for the feature to be used reliably.
Must be sad to live in your North American bubble. There is a great big world out here where Apple is far from being King. And we are doing just fine thank you.
Again though, it's unclear if this will roll out to all (or even most) recent Samsung phones. Why isn't it on the Z Flip on day one, for example?
