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[chucker23n1]

From what I understand, you wouldn’t be able to do this anyway even if the cord were removable. Apparently, the Studio Display is too thin to use a standard cord, so Apple created a proprietary power cable, which is probably why it’s not removable. Losing such a cable would leave you with a bricked monitor.

So even if you could remove it, you’d still have to take the cord with you to the other desk because it won’t work with any normal power cord. Or you’d have to ask Apple if you can buy a second cord, but those do not appear to be available for sale.

This is only really a problem because they build the power supply in. This also produces additional heat, which means the display always has fans running.

I'm not sure that's the tradeoff I would've picked. Just give it a small power brick. The display runs cooler, and the cable can be a simpler, standard one.

 

[dogface1956]

Well, I wouldn't buy a $1600 monitor of that size, but no, a non removable cord isn't a deal breaker, but I would say it's idiotic. Now the height adjustable stand being $400 *more*, that would be a deal breaker if I were considering the $1600 in the fist place. What I'd probably do is get the vesa mount, and put it on my own stand. (I did that with my LG, since it wouldn't lower enough, and it had a built in vesa mount already.)

From what I understand is that because of the depth of the Studio Display they could not use a removable plug like other displays, the case itself is too thin to support a connector that would allow a quick removable plug. If that is the case I think they made the correction decision. I think except is a few very rare cases most people can live without the cable being easy to remove and more people would view having the thinner case as more important.

 

[dogface1956]

Yes. It's 'sad' that I want to be able to easily remove the power cord in order to transport my monitor around from place to place without unnecessary hassle. Nearly as 'sad' as taking the time to call someone out because they have different needs and standards to yourself. No one is upset about it. Classic projection against those you disagree with. Some folk just don't like it. It is allowed to dislike something without getting hysterical about it. It would rub me up the wrong way right out of the box. If it doesn't bother you then fair enough.

I just don't understand what the additional hassle is, you wrap the cord around the stand and move the fricking display not a big deal, I'm not projecting anything on you Dr. Freud, I don't really give a rat's a** I just thought that it was weird you felt so strongly about a non-removable cord to have it ruin your whole day. There are plenty of displays with removeable cords go and buy one of those and have a happy day.

 

[iStorm]

Yeah, I don't get this. Of all the things to complain about, there are people saying the worst design decision Apple made on this monitor was making the cord non-removable (yes, someone on another similar thread said that on 9to5Mac). Say what? I would like to take a poll of how many would consider this a deal breaker, considering how many thousands of devices out there of all kinds that have permanently attached power cords. Personally, I like the idea because I can't lose the cord. I've got so many electronic components (dvd players, stereos, monitors etc) stacked in storage where I have no idea where the power cord went. When I want to take an item out of storage, I'll look in my enormous pile of cordage to see if I can find one that seems to fit. Sometimes I find one. Sometimes I don't. But seriously nobody is going to use this as a factor in their buying decision.

OMG, I have to move my monitor to the next desk five feet over. I must unplug my power cord from the monitor or I'll suffer seizures and not be able to move that monitor. I'll probably trip over the cord and splash the internals of my monitor all over the floor. Horrors. How can I go on?

I don’t think these people are complaining just for the sake of wanting to be able to remove the power cord for no reason. They probably have a reason why they want to remove (or replace) it. I’m not interested in the Studio Display, so I really don’t care, but just as an example… I have a standing/height adjustable desk with monitor arms and an attached power strip. It takes about 2.5ft of cable to go across the arms, down the pole, and through the grommet hole. It takes about another 4ft to go across the underside of desk in a cable channel to the power strip. Well, a 6ft power cord is just a tad too short, and it’s not able to be replaced with a longer one like we can with most other monitors. Not to mention, if I needed to move my desk, I'd need to undo my cable management rather than leaving my cables there and just disconnecting the devices. Now the cable is detachable with some force...it's just a matter if Apple will ever sell other lengths to solve these "first world problems".

 

[iStorm]

From what I understand is that because of the depth of the Studio Display they could not use a removable plug like other displays, the case itself is too thin to support a connector that would allow a quick removable plug. If that is the case I think they made the correction decision. I think except is a few very rare cases most people can live without the cable being easy to remove and more people would view having the thinner case as more important.

You mean like the new M1 iMac? That is thinner AND has a quick removable power cord. Even the Pro Display XDR is a little thinner than the Studio Display and has an easily removable power cord. Pretty sure the depth of the Studio Display has nothing to do with it...

 

[Spankey]

You mean like the new M1 iMac? That is thinner AND has a quick removable power cord. Even the Pro Display XDR is a little thinner than the Studio Display and has an easily removable power cord. Pretty sure the depth of the Studio Display has nothing to do with it...

The iMac has an external power supply. The Studio Display does not.

 

[iStorm]

The iMac has an external power supply. The Studio Display does not.

Fair enough, that is also used for ethernet networking. My point still stands though...the Pro Display XDR does not have an external power supply and uses a standardized plug.

 

[deevey]

I don’t think these people are complaining just for the sake of wanting to be able to remove the power cord for no reason. They probably have a reason why they want to remove (or replace) it. I’m not interested in the Studio Display, so I really don’t care, but just as an example… I have a standing/height adjustable desk with monitor arms and an attached power strip. It takes about 2.5ft of cable to go across the arms, down the pole, and through the grommet hole. It takes about another 4ft to go across the underside of desk in a cable channel to the power strip. Well, a 6ft power cord is just a tad too short, and it’s not able to be replaced with a longer one like we can with most other monitors. Not to mention, if I needed to move my desk, I'd need to undo my cable management rather than leaving my cables there and just disconnecting the devices. Now the cable is detachable with some force...it's just a matter if Apple will ever sell other lengths to solve these "first world problems".

Chop off the mains plug and add one of these.

Or the really cheap and nasty version:

And this

 

[Jim Lahey]

I just thought that it was weird you felt so strongly about a non-removable cord to have it ruin your whole day.

I didn't say it would ruin my day. I said it would rub me up the wrong way. The original context, which is now lost, was that it would certainly be a factor for me. I didn't even say it would stop me buying one, so you're basically just making up straw man arguments. But anyway, let's not fall out over a monitor ?

 

[Spankey]

Fair enough, that is also used for ethernet networking. My point still stands though...the Pro Display XDR does not have an external power supply.

A larger display, different parts not included

Fair enough, that is also used for ethernet networking. My point still stands though...the Pro Display XDR does not have an external power supply and uses a standardized plug.

It doesn't look like the XDR display uses a standard monitor plug either but more of the type that fits into the Mac mini. It does protrude from the back of the monitor so my guess if for aesthetics as well as need for a shorter than standard plug they went with the plug that is there now.

 

[iStorm]

It doesn't look like the XDR display uses a standard monitor plug either but more of the type that fits into the Mac mini. It does protrude from the back of the monitor so my guess if for aesthetics as well as need for a shorter than standard plug they went with the plug that is there now.

It is a standardized plug. It's not the typical C13 plug most of us are familiar with, but the Mac Studio and Pro Display XDR use the C5 plug, which is very much a standard and easily obtainable. There's nothing proprietary or special about it.

 

[dogface1956]

You mean like the new M1 iMac? That is thinner AND has a quick removable power cord. Even the Pro Display XDR is a little thinner than the Studio Display and has an easily removable power cord. Pretty sure the depth of the Studio Display has nothing to do with it...

The iMac uses a power brick don't know about the XDR display as have not looked at the back of one. I am just going by what several of my technicians told me that they heard from Apple about the cord.

 

[dawnrazor]

From what I understand, you wouldn’t be able to do this anyway even if the cord were removable. Apparently, the Studio Display is too thin to use a standard cord, so Apple created a proprietary power cable, which is probably why it’s not removable. Losing such a cable would leave you with a bricked monitor.

So even if you could remove it, you’d still have to take the cord with you to the other desk because it won’t work with any normal power cord. Or you’d have to ask Apple if you can buy a second cord, but those do not appear to be available for sale.

yep... I couldn't even buy a genuine power cable for my intel iMac from apple had to source a second hand one from an old machine...

on a more serious note, they did something similar with one of the old Thunderbolt displays from years ago if I remember correctly they were all hardwired like this, so they have form, on the other hand if cables fray, get damaged or go faulty I hope this is something that can be easily fixed by any Apple authorised repair service...

 

[seek3r]

From what I understand, you wouldn’t be able to do this anyway even if the cord were removable. Apparently, the Studio Display is too thin to use a standard cord, so Apple created a proprietary power cable, which is probably why it’s not removable. Losing such a cable would leave you with a bricked monitor.

So even if you could remove it, you’d still have to take the cord with you to the other desk because it won’t work with any normal power cord. Or you’d have to ask Apple if you can buy a second cord, but those do not appear to be available for sale.

you mean like the proprietary cable on the new iMacs? or the older magsafe laptops that didnt have a fallback like USBC (bonus: Apple wouldnt license that to third parties, for a long time if you lost your cable your only option was buying a new one from Apple)? or ADC on the old studio displays? or.... etc. Apple is not exactly shy about using custom connectors....

 

[Radin.Y]

For many people non Retina displays & resolutions are unacceptable. I refuse to go back to non Retina displays. Each to their own I guess.

Whether a display is considered Retina or not really depends on the distance to the viewer. 4K on a 32" panel is pretty good tbh (138 ppi), regardless of which scaling option you use. My M7 display is further away from the MacBook screen, and looks sharp.
Sure, 5K would make it even crispier (170 ppi), but doesn't add that much to the experience, especially considering the price jump.

 

[fedeARTPOP]

A good place to use the Apple sticker ?

 

[Unggoy Murderer]

For many people non Retina displays & resolutions are unacceptable. I refuse to go back to non Retina displays. Each to their own I guess.

And that is totally fine, you and others have their own preferences / requirements. I have Retina (or Retina quality) displays at home, but in my office I'm perfectly fine with a 1080p and 1440p monitor for my development work.

 

[Unggoy Murderer]

Well, you're wrong. Really no other way to put it.

Jeez are you still going on about this? With your ridiculous logic, everyone MUST have a Porsche and spend Porsche money if they want to buy a car, because they're consistently the best-rated cars in the important categories. Even if they only have a limited budget or specific requirement, they MUST have a Porsche without questioning any alternative. Sounds dumb doesn't it?

I thought neutron stars were dense but good grief you'd make a physicist scratch their head.

 

[dlewis23]

the fan boys will never be satisfied until they stick an Apple logo on, offer wheels at $500 each and add $1k TimTax

Stating facts is not being a fan boy. You can't show HDR content on a single backlight display that has a max brightness of 400 nits. HDR just does not work that way.

Guess what, the new studio display can't display HDR either. Its only 600 nits max brightness and again only has a single backlight.

These are facts, not being a fan boy.

 

[Macative]

Jeez are you still going on about this? With your ridiculous logic, everyone MUST have a Porsche and spend Porsche money if they want to buy a car, because they're consistently the best-rated cars in the important categories. Even if they only have a limited budget or specific requirement, they MUST have a Porsche without questioning any alternative. Sounds dumb doesn't it?

I thought neutron stars were dense but good grief you'd make a physicist scratch their head.

If you have a limited budget, that's fine. Just don't pretend that buying a $300 27" 4K display on Amazon actually works well or is intended for use with, a Mac.

 

[Unggoy Murderer]

If you have a limited budget, that's fine. Just don't pretend that buying a $300 27" 4K display on Amazon actually works well or is intended for use with, a Mac.

Why wouldn't it work well or "not be intended for use with a Mac"?

If someone was working from home and doing nothing but writing emails and viewing web content, a cheap 4K monitor would be more than enough. Sure, might not have perfect colours, but why would that matter to them? A graphic designer wouldn't buy one, but they have a specialist use case that would mandate a monitor with proper colour reproduction.

 

[mclld]

Why wouldn't it work well or "not be intended for use with a Mac"?

If someone was working from home and doing nothing but writing emails and viewing web content, a cheap 4K monitor would be more than enough. Sure, might not have perfect colours, but why would that matter to them? A graphic designer wouldn't buy one, but they have a specialist use case that would mandate a monitor with proper colour reproduction.

Some people are ridiculous, I have a gasp….32” LG QHD that I don’t think is full 4k and I use it with a Mac and it works great!

 

[petvas]

Why wouldn't it work well or "not be intended for use with a Mac"?

If someone was working from home and doing nothing but writing emails and viewing web content, a cheap 4K monitor would be more than enough. Sure, might not have perfect colours, but why would that matter to them? A graphic designer wouldn't buy one, but they have a specialist use case that would mandate a monitor with proper colour reproduction.

Well, it’s all about quality. Some people don’t care or don’t understand quality. others do..

 

[Unggoy Murderer]

Some people are ridiculous, I have a gasp….32” LG QHD that I don’t think is full 4k and I use it with a Mac and it works great!

Totally! And exactly, as long as it works for you, that is all that matters.

 

[Unggoy Murderer]

Well, it’s all about quality. Some people don’t care or don’t understand quality. others do..

Well, no it's not all about quality. That's the point I'm making, some people won't care about quality and others will, as you say. I care about quality, but I know a lot of people who won't or don't need to worry about quality.

To some people, having a monitor with super-duper perfect picture, pixel density, refresh rate, adjustable or brightness won't matter - they just want something to look at to get stuff done with.