Samsung's 'Infringe First and Stall as Long as Possible' Strategies Are Nothing New

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    On the day that a San Jose jury submitted a final verdict on the damages that Samsung owes Apple in the second United States patent infringement lawsuit between the two companies, Vanity Fair has published a lengthy piece that takes a look at Samsung's long (and successful) history of using patent infringement as a business tactic.

    Back in 2010, before Apple filed an initial lawsuit against Samsung, executives from Cupertino (including lawyers) met with Samsung executives in Seoul, where it was made clear by Samsung VP Seungho Ahn if Apple chose to pursue a lawsuit, Samsung would countersue with its own patents. "We've been building cell phones forever," Ahn told Chip Lutton, an Apple lawyer at the time. "We have our own patents, and Apple is probably violating some of those."

    The iPhone compared to the Samsung Galaxy S​

    As it turns out, stealing key ideas from other companies and then using its own portfolio of patents to draw out lawsuits is a tactic that Samsung used long before Apple came into the picture.
    In 2007, Sharp filed a lawsuit against Samsung, alleging that the South Korean company had violated its patents. Samsung countersued, drawing out the lawsuit as it continued to produce TV sets using the stolen technology, building up its TV business. Samsung was found guilty of patent infringement years later in 2009, at which point it settled with Sharp to avoid an import ban.

    There's a similar story with Pioneer, who filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Samsung over plasma television technology in 2006. Samsung countersued, dragging on litigation and appeals until a 2009 settlement. The long and expensive legal battle caused Pioneer to shut down its television business while Samsung thrived. Samsung has pulled the same stunt with Kodak, Apple, and several other technology companies.

    Samsung hit Apple with the same tactic following the release of the iPhone. As has been documented during the ongoing global lawsuits between the two companies, Samsung evaluated the iPhone feature-by-feature and came up with 126 instances where Apple's iPhone was better than its own offerings, which led to the development of the Galaxy S.
    Following the release of the Galaxy S and Samsung's refusal to sign licensing agreements with Apple due to its former history of successfully avoiding significant penalties for copying intellectual property, Apple filed its first lawsuit against Samsung. Samsung, of course, followed, leading to where we are today -- Samsung has thus far been ordered to pay Apple just over a billion dollars in the United States after two lawsuits, but appeals are far from over. Samsung has continued to develop its Galaxy line of devices and has cemented itself as Apple's biggest competitor.
    The full story, which covers Samsung's history, its past patent lawsuits and other legal woes, Apple's creation of the original iPhone, and the dispute between the two companies, can be read over at Vanity Fair.

    Article Link: Samsung's 'Infringe First and Stall as Long as Possible' Strategies Are Nothing New
  2. jrswizzle macrumors 603


    Aug 23, 2012
    McKinney, TX
    Oh boy....this is sure to incite calm, rational discussion :p
  3. Dave.UK macrumors 65816


    Sep 24, 2012
    Kent, UK
  4. matjamca macrumors regular

    Jan 2, 2013
    St Helens, Merseyside, England
    How the hell are Samsung being allowed to get away with this? Something needs to be done to stop their incessant infringement of other companies valuable, innovative patents.
  5. Rogifan macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2011
    Good for page views. Gotta pay the bills somehow.
  6. ZacNicholson macrumors 6502a


    Jun 25, 2011
  7. GeneralChang macrumors 65816

    Dec 2, 2013
    Two things. First, I suppose I’m not really surprised that this happens, but I am a little surprised that we’re so bad at spotting it that it works this well. Second, I had no idea that the original Galaxy S looked like that. Go figure.
  8. Konrad9 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 23, 2012
    I get that you guys need to play to your audience, but to claim any level of journalistic integrity and publish a story with that title is just outright pathetic.

    Of course Samsung copies. So does Apple, so does Microsoft, so does Activision, and Ford, and Toyota, and Lenovo, and Costco, and Boeing, and every single other company in the world.

    I am in no way defending Samsung's actions nor am I suggesting they are defensible, but that title is insulting to Samsung, it's insulting to Apple, and it's insulting to your readers and your fans.
  9. appleii.c macrumors 6502


    Mar 18, 2013
    And these business tactics are why I choose never to buy anymore Samsung products again. As it is, it bothers me that there are Samsung chips in some of my non-Samsung products.
  10. mesmurized macrumors newbie

    Jul 13, 2008
    It's been said many times: innovate not litigate. The only way to truly win !!
  11. ibbumpin macrumors newbie

    Jul 11, 2013
    I'm pretty sure I saw it say: Thou shalt not steal -- Samsung
  12. Chatter macrumors 6502a

    Jun 10, 2013
    Uphill from Downtown
    Slow down champ. Maybe read it first? :cool:
  13. a.gomez macrumors 6502a


    Oct 10, 2008
    love how we all forgetting that Apple was also found guilty in the same trial :rolleyes:
  14. goobot macrumors 603


    Jun 26, 2009
    long island NY
    You are completely right but look at the recent case with apple, Samsung has to pay like 600 times more than apple, so samsung is taking it to an extrem.
  15. Z400Racer37 macrumors 6502a

    Feb 7, 2011
    What a disgusting company. No integrity whatsoever. It must really suck to work there.
  16. Dr McKay macrumors 68040

    Dr McKay

    Aug 11, 2010
    Aaah the comparison photo where they felt the need to manipulate the dimensions of the phone to make it look closer to the iPhone. Just like they did with the S2 and galaxy tab


  17. Menopause macrumors 6502a


    Feb 26, 2011
  18. matjamca macrumors regular

    Jan 2, 2013
    St Helens, Merseyside, England
    It never insulted me. It should insult Samsung though, but it'll be like water off a duck's back to them. They couldn't give two *****. A few million dollars for a fine after making billions from other people's work. Shame on them!!!
  19. AngerDanger macrumors 68030


    Dec 9, 2008
    Every time I see that picture, I cringe.

    Good artists copy; great artists steal. —Steve Jobs (originally Pablo Picasso)
  20. perryke macrumors newbie

    Feb 27, 2011
    Tampa, FL
    There's a First Time for Everything

    Yes indeed. For the first time Apple has been found to infringe on a non-SEP patent bought by Samsung
  21. fredaroony macrumors 6502a

    Aug 1, 2011
    Is this site now Appleinsider? Worst bait article I have seen in here in a long time.

    Of course it's everyday news on Appleinsider, the most biased hate filled Apple site around.
  22. Will do good macrumors 6502a

    Will do good

    Mar 24, 2010

    According to various court records and people who have worked with Samsung, ignoring competitors' patents is not uncommon for the Korean company. And once it's caught it launches into the same sort of tactics used in the Apple case: countersue, delay, lose, delay, appeal, and then, when defeat is approaching, settle.

    What a bunch of SCUM!
  23. matjamca macrumors regular

    Jan 2, 2013
    St Helens, Merseyside, England
    Apple wasn't found guilty of wilful infringement though. Samsung copied and knew full well they were doing so.
  24. 576316 macrumors 601

    May 19, 2011
    So why are they being allowed to continue doing it if everybody knows they're doing it? They basically the owe the entirety of their Galaxy line to Apple's innovations.
  25. mabaker macrumors 65816


    Jan 19, 2008
    Samsung is a barbaric company. Yet Apple still has business deals with them in some shape or form. It's time to cut the barbarians loose.

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