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So friggin what!!

Samsung solves a problem that the button is too small by making it bigger?

Is that really some sort of amazing design copied off Apple ?

NO.

It is just common sense ?

Unless someone else here could come up with another way you can make a button bigger - that doesn't involve increasing the size ?
 
Thieves? If they are thieves, than Apple too, and many other companies.

Stealing ideas is not the same as copying end products. Do you understand the difference?

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So friggin what!!

Samsung solves a problem that the button is too small by making it bigger?

Is that really some sort of amazing design copied off Apple ?

NO.

It is just common sense ?

Unless someone else here could come up with another way you can make a button bigger - that doesn't involve increasing the size ?

Read the entire 132 pages before posting any more of your defensive tripe.
 
Would love to know how they hand over evidence like this, they either think ripping off ideas is a way of doing business and the norm, or they are just very naive and honest.
 
Any big company will see what their competitors do well, they want to make sure they're as good as can be. Samsung didn't say "Let's copy this..." they say "Apple do this well, we don't, how can we improve it...". That is just good business sense, you can't be blind to your competitors in the marketplace.
 
I know that this probably has no bearing on the company itself, but I have a friend that goes to school with the son of a high up Samsung executive and he's sort of a bad person. Disrespectful to women, doesn't leave tips despite being wealthy, etc. Then again, maybe it's indicative of the executive culture there.
 
Ok now I know why they removed the down vote buttons.

So friggin what!!

Samsung solves a problem that the button is too small by making it bigger?

Is that really some sort of amazing design copied off Apple ?

NO.

It is just common sense ?

Unless someone else here could come up with another way you can make a button bigger - that doesn't involve increasing the size ?
 
Read the entire 132 pages before blabbering nonsense.

I don't really think that posting the same thing 100+ times with different text is that useful.

The fundamental flaw with almost all the pages in that document - is that the decisions are obvious.

The fact that the O.P. on this thread picked the 'cream of the crop' as an example pretty much sums it up.
 
Read the entire 132 pages before posting any more of your defensive nonsense.

I recommend you do. The poster you replied to got it right. That's what the document is about : "Our button seems too small a touch target, iPhone has bigger touch targets, more tightly packed but easier to touch", Solution : "Make the touch targets bigger, utilize our wasted space better".
 
While it's certainly not legally damning, it is morally damaging.

It blows my mind how some people still blindly support Samsung in this trial -- while the patent infringement and the legal question at hand is undetermined, the design ethos was undoubtedly breached. A few things to consider:

-This document, outlining flaws
-The internal memo about a crisis of design
-The similarities between icons (someone has a pic)
-The similarities between dock connectors, chargers, and all accessories
-The similarities of the phone design and GUI layout

In some cases the Samsung devices look exactly like the iPhone in many, many aspects.

With that said, design ethos is not legally damning, and what's at stake here is patent infringement. If anything, prior art will make or break this case. Apple has already showed that Samsung had the intent to copy near everything.

To some people: what is the best phone? The one I'm holding! Who copied who? The opposite camp copied the phone on my hand! :D
 
I'm all Apple.. But all they did was make the date show up on the Calendar and a call button bigger as well. If they stole the iPhone's layout thats a problem, but they saw good in the product and made it their own way using the ideas. I mean eventually if you copy too much stuff the phones become too similar and this is what Apple may be fighting.
 
And yet Apple has stolen a ton from Android. Come off the high horse.

Yeah, I bet all those Android designers had steam shooting out of their ears when the iPhone came out in 2007 and copied all their well-developed, well-established, and patented designs & technologies...

Most of what people claim was somehow "stolen" on the iPhone were designs and concepts created on the iPhone through the magic of jailbreaking. Apple either copied those apps, tweaks and extensions, or outright purchased them (such as the Notification Center).
 
What did Apple steal from whom?

Wait for it... Apple stole from everyone else because they did not invent the smart phone, they certainly did not invent a black rectangle with rounded corners and let's not forget that Apple did not invent the idea of a grid of icons on a screen. :rolleyes:

Frankly these documents being presented in court are pretty damning. Samsung keeps helping Apple's case in court. What I find really amusing is that Samsung can't even get the trademark name for the iPhone correct in their documents.
 
Apple does not have patents on large buttons.

If you'd read the article thoroughly, you'd see that's not the point:

"Apple is clearly using it to build its case that Samsung was looking to the iPhone as a superior device and in many cases seeking to copy the iPhone's solutions to user interface and other issues."
 
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