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Flint Ironstag

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OK folks, please tell me where I'm going wrong:

  1. Mac Pro 2019
  2. 24 core
  3. 1TB RAM
  4. whatever size built in SSD
  5. Sonnet or OWC quad NVME card with say 4x 2TB drives (please recommend) in RAID 5
  6. dual Vega II Pro duos or W6800x duos
  7. PCIe expansion chassis to hold 4 x 16GB+ AMD GPUs that have infinity link & blower fans (please recommend)
  8. Afterburner card for super light video editing
Gonna have Morgonaut proxmox this all - Big Sur as it's the last MacOS with a sane system preferences, and a Windows 11 for general computing - mainly hash cracking but some AI stuff too, hence the desire for infinity fabric capable GPUs with high VRAM.

Will this Mac Pro even recognize 4 extra GPUs? I've had an HP Z840 and Z820 Hackintosh hooked up to the same PCIe expansion chassis and they recognized up to 4x Vega 64 and / or Vega Frontier Edition 16GB, so I'd think the 2019 would also, but who knows. Won't kill me if it doesn't work and I need to hook up the PCIe chassis to a Z840 via 10Gb ethernet.

Interested in component recommendations and if my intended configuration will work or not, not if it's a good idea - this is a fun battlestation for me. Backups, media libraries, home automation and other stuff are handled by Mac Minis and Mac Pro 2013 with Thunderbolt 2 storage. Still pretty quick and CHEAP! 😂. Assume power and cooling are free.

Thanks in advance - looking forward to y'all picking this apart.
 
OK folks, please tell me where I'm going wrong:

  1. Mac Pro 2019
  2. 24 core
  3. 1TB RAM
  4. whatever size built in SSD
  5. Sonnet or OWC quad NVME card with say 4x 2TB drives (please recommend) in RAID 5
  6. dual Vega II Pro duos or W6800x duos
  7. PCIe expansion chassis to hold 4 x 16GB+ AMD GPUs that have infinity link & blower fans (please recommend)
  8. Afterburner card for super light video editing
Gonna have Morgonaut proxmox this all - Big Sur as it's the last MacOS with a sane system preferences, and a Windows 11 for general computing - mainly hash cracking but some AI stuff too, hence the desire for infinity fabric capable GPUs with high VRAM.

Will this Mac Pro even recognize 4 extra GPUs? I've had an HP Z840 and Z820 Hackintosh hooked up to the same PCIe expansion chassis and they recognized up to 4x Vega 64 and / or Vega Frontier Edition 16GB, so I'd think the 2019 would also, but who knows. Won't kill me if it doesn't work and I need to hook up the PCIe chassis to a Z840 via 10Gb ethernet.

Interested in component recommendations and if my intended configuration will work or not, not if it's a good idea - this is a fun battlestation for me. Backups, media libraries, home automation and other stuff are handled by Mac Minis and Mac Pro 2013 with Thunderbolt 2 storage. Still pretty quick and CHEAP! 😂. Assume power and cooling are free.

Thanks in advance - looking forward to y'all picking this apart.

Very curious to hear how things go with Morgonaut - I'd certainly be happy to pay someone for expertise an consulting to set up a ProxMox system IF the thing I want to do is doable on a fundamental level (even just getting a consult to find out the answer to that question would be a step). BUT I'm not really keen to have someone remoting in to my machines.

The only place I can see as going "wrong" with this is how long your lowest level ProxMox setup supports the hardware, and is secure. Even with my VMWare setup for running Snow Leopard-bound older processes, Broadcom has already deprecated macOS guests, so that whole thing has to remain frozen in time, which is annoying, and VirtualBox is largely an unhelpful community for macOS guest on Mac hardware.

*edit* one issue you are definitely going to have with 2x MPX GPUs, is you're only going to have an x8 slot available for your NVMEs, unless you starve the Afterburner by putting it on the x8 slot. That's perfectly doable, since its JUST a decoder for making your playback in the editing software realtime, and reducing its available lanes will only reduce the number of simultaneous streams you can play in realtime.
 
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OK folks, please tell me where I'm going wrong:

  1. Mac Pro 2019
  2. 24 core
  3. 1TB RAM
  4. whatever size built in SSD
  5. ...
Gonna have Morgonaut proxmox this all - Big Sur as it's the last MacOS with a sane system preferences, and a Windows 11 for general computing - mainly hash cracking but some AI stuff too, hence the desire for infinity fabric capable GPUs with high VRAM.
Memory should be either 768GB or 1.5TB, to fit the 6 memory lanes. And probably same size LRDIMMs, can't mix with RDIMMs.
 
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dual Vega II Pro duos or W6800x duos
The W6800X Duos may be very, very expensive - just beware. Also watch out for dodgy cards being sold off, if you get a bad one then you don't have a lot of options.

Will the normal Radeon RX6900XT 16GB cards (two of them) work for your needs, provided you get ones that are short enough to fit (and get the power cable kit for them).

Do you have this machine yet? If not, maybe think of the 28 core processor if you can find one - it is good.
 
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Morning Folks, thanks for your insight. I have engaged Teresa (Morgonaut) services a couple of times since ~2021 on HP Z820 and Z840 proxmox. The boxes have performed flawlessly - well worth the money.

Noted on the RAM configurations to maximize the 6 channels - may have to save $$ and go for a 16 core CPU and 768GB LOL. 1.5TB is pricey!!

I'm planning to tinker with local LLMs, so would prefer the duo GPUs to pack as much power as possible. At least on ebay, there doesn't seem to be much price difference between boxes with W6800x duo and Radeon Pro Vega II duo.

Is anyone out there using a PCIe expansion chassis, and if so, how many GPUs does your Mac support? I'm using a One Stop Systems Cube 3.
 
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