Santa Clara County Asks Apple, Google and Others to Cancel Large In-Person Meetings and Conferences

[Rogifan]

I’m sure Apple is waiting until the last possible minute to decide. All these companies cancelling events 2-3 months out when we don’t know how warmer weather will impact this. I suppose they have no choice as it’s not something they can cancel last minute. There is a two week tennis tournament in Indian Wells CA that starts this week, and it hasn’t been canceled. This tournament includes men and women players from all over the world. Last year attendance was 475,000.

 

[1345873]

You don’t understand mental illness, huh?

Ignorant remark.. Secondary to pressure, unreasonable working hours or other conditions (like forced labor) can make you jump, so yeah attention needed.. this is why your apple products are this cheap, I mean the profits are this big.. but you apparently do not care..

 

[hagjohn]

I agree. The common flu so far just in the US has hit 30M. Where is the panic over this number? There isn’t, because the flu is just a fact of life. We’ll get through this. Don’t panic. Get back to work.
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I agree. It is a weak virus, but being made into a strong political weapon.

The media is salivating over all of this. They are playing their audience as fools.

The big problem is that we do not know who has it or not in the US. There are not enough test kits to test people ... 2 plus months into this crisis. President said a million test kits by the end of the week but we are only going to get 75,000. The US has an estimated population of 329,227,746 (as of January 28, 2020) and 75,000 just isn't enough.
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In other news, the San Jose Sharks lost to the Minnesota Wild 3-2 in front of 14,500 at the SAP Center in San Jose.

And guess what could be the headline in 2-3 weeks?

 

[Deacon-Blues]

Apple produces slick videos with every new product, which they run during the presentation. They should just string a bunch of those together with a narrator and an online Q&A with select viewers, and then call it a day. Stream it for everyone at the same time and it‘ll feel like a live event.

 

[kaycrystal626]

Stop all large gathering unless it's mega money making events like sports... think March madness. MLB, NBA etc... can't stop $$$ sports.

May as well cancel all the concerts, movie theaters, broadway shows, sports events, public transportations, etc!

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I'm sure that not having large events would also help with traffic and parking irregardless of coronavirus.

 

[starman111]

I agree. The common flu so far just in the US has hit 30M. Where is the panic over this number? There isn’t, because the flu is just a fact of life. We’ll get through this. Don’t panic. Get back to work.
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I agree. It is a weak virus, but being made into a strong political weapon.

The media is salivating over all of this. They are playing their audience as fools.

If we treat this just like the flu, then it will become just as common as the flu. The only problem is it’s 20 times deadlier. We can look to the Spanish flu of 1918 for important lessons. That killed 10’s of millions of people, possibly as many as 100 million. It’s important that we shut down this virus as quickly as possible.

 

[RS52]

Sad

 

[starman111]

May as well cancel all the concerts, movie theaters, broadway shows, sports events, public transportations, etc!

I suspect we will see that within a few weeks.

 

[ifxf]

The big problem is that we do not know who has it or not in the US. There are not enough test kits to test people ... 2 plus months into this crisis. President said a million test kits by the end of the week but we are only going to get 75,000. The US has an estimated population of 329,227,746 (as of January 28, 2020) and 75,000 just isn't enough.
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And guess what could be the headline in 2-3 weeks?

each kit can test up to 500 people, the next bottleneck will be the lack of labs to analyze the tests.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Meeting services industry is taking a beating. I think this has been overblown to the max to tank the economy for political reasons. Where was this kind of panic for SARS, H1N1, Ebola....

The media needs to calm the hell down.

I'm sure the people that died in Washington State are proud that they died to 'hurt the economy'.

This isn't a political thread in the political forum, so that was an inappropriate comment. HOWEVER, the 'wheat to chaff' ratio to BS and facts is being fed by the White House, and it is THEY that have turned this into a rancid political football, and are gleefully kicking it around. To state that it is a 'hoax' is reckless, and incredibly destructive to public health, and the idea of sound governance.

Everything that happens that is bad is viewed as a hoax, or a political attack. Everything 'good' is viewed as a success for 'dear leader'. That leads to a very dark and horrific place IMO. Spreading disinformation, and chaos only helps one agenda. United we stand.

 

[iMi]

I don't think most people realize the seriousness of what's happening. I travel a lot. Guess what, I have not been anywhere since December. Cologne, cancelled. Shanghai, cancelled. Guangzhou, cancelled. Our business came to a grinding hold. Days at end there would be no emails, phone calls.

This is not just another outbreak. This is something else.

The 1917 Spanish Flu, which was a strain of the H1N1, infected an estimated 500 million people and killed between 20 and 50 million globally. That's a mortality rate between 4-10% but in developed countries, like the UK at the time, the average mortality rate was about 2% -- exactly the same as Novel Coronavirus.

That's 1917 and we all know the world looks much different now. I once went to Charlotte, back to Chicago, out to San Francisco, back to Chicago and out to Shanghai, then HK and Ho Chi Minh in a span of about three weeks. Imagine if I was infected with a virus that has two-week gestation period, like the coronavirus. I know most people don't travel like this, but many do. It's just one example. Imagine how many people you come into contact with all over the place in a span of two weeks.

We will not be able to contain this... we're in for a world of hurt. Lots of people will die. The only hope is that we have a much better understanding of how disease spreads and the technology to develop vaccines faster than before, but still... it's a dire situation. I've never seen anything like it.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

I just had a crisis. What about concerts. There are several concerts coming up that I have tickets to. Damn...

 

[iMi]

Meeting services industry is taking a beating. I think this has been overblown to the max to tank the economy for political reasons. Where was this kind of panic for SARS, H1N1, Ebola....

The media needs to calm the hell down.

You seem misinformed.

SARS was contained fairly quickly. H1N1 has also been contained and by the way includes many different viruses, just like coronavirus. Ebola has also been contained. The difference, if you're paying attention, is in the infection rate. Coronavirus is spreading at an insane rate.

This should give you an idea...

 

[thadoggfather]

It would've been nice if Apple took this initiative instead of waiting to be instructed to

 

[smirking]

I just had a crisis. What about concerts. There are several concerts coming up that I have tickets to. Damn...

I know. It took me years of trying to finally manage to get tickets to see Wilco and I'm expecting to hear that the show is being canceled any day now.

 

[lunarworks]

Meeting services industry is taking a beating. I think this has been overblown to the max to tank the economy for political reasons. Where was this kind of panic for SARS, H1N1, Ebola....

The media needs to calm the hell down.

SARS was relatively contained within specific regions, but where it broke out there was indeed panic. I live in Toronto, and our international reputation took such a blow that the Rolling Stones had to throw a massive charity concert to get our tourism industry going again. It was a major news story not just here, but abroad. Even our idiot mayor at the time was featured on The Daily Show for his ineptitude.

 

[Ryth]

we need a vaccine and fast!
this is the only way out.
Vaccinations to prevent spread
the economy air travel and hospitals are going to be clobbered
even dogs can get this now and they are worried about spread thru paper money
even poop from an infected person.

It's a flu strain. MSM and everyone is over-reacting beyond belief. There's a reason China has it bad..they have terrible air quality, terrible health/hygiene and eat weird animals. Right now this thing is going to come in UNDER the average flu deaths per year.

This was 2018-2019 Flu...where was the panic?

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35 MILLION INFECTED. 34K DEATHS. CDC estimated that the 2018/19 influenza was associated with 35.5+ million illnesses, 16.5+ million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations & 34,200 deaths.
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Where was the panic in MSM and the markets?

Were you freaking out by the 100 deaths from normal flu in Florida for example this flu season before all this? Of course you weren't. The people who have unfortunately died from this strain have had underlying health issues.

Everyone needs to calm the F down...this is a prime example of fear-mongering. This is the media spinning stuff. Focus on the positive information.

And BTW if you're running around wearing surgical masks..they won't help. There's a reason they are called surgical masks...they are for doctors/nurses to not allow droplets to enter an open wound from speaking during surgeries. They will not stop airborne particles.

 

[smirking]

Were you freaking out by the 100 deaths from normal flu in Florida for example this flu season before all this?

If you want to know why people are sounding the alarms and why this isn't the flu, please look here. Watch the video. If 35 million people get infected with this virus, there's going to be way more than 34,200 deaths.

 

[starman111]

It's a flu strain. MSM and everyone is over-reacting beyond belief. There's a reason China has it bad..they have terrible air quality, terrible health/hygiene and eat weird animals. Right now this thing is going to come in UNDER the average flu deaths per year.

This was 2018-2019 Flu...where was the panic?

***
35 MILLION INFECTED. 34K DEATHS. CDC estimated that the 2018/19 influenza was associated with 35.5+ million illnesses, 16.5+ million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations & 34,200 deaths.
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Where was the panic in MSM and the markets?

Were you freaking out by the 100 deaths from normal flu in Florida for example this flu season before all this? Of course you weren't. The people who have unfortunately died from this strain have had underlying health issues.

Everyone needs to calm the F down...this is a prime example of fear-mongering. This is the media spinning stuff. Focus on the positive information.

And BTW if you're running around wearing surgical masks..they won't help. There's a reason they are called surgical masks...they are for doctors/nurses to not allow droplets to enter an open wound from speaking during surgeries. They will not stop airborne particles.

This virus is 20 times as deadly as the flu, and we still have an opportunity to stop it. We should seize that opportunity!

The Spanish flu of 1918 had a similar mortality rate, and it killed tens of millions.

 

[shadowcatz23]

SARS was contained fairly quickly. H1N1 has also been contained and by the way includes many different viruses, just like coronavirus. Ebola has also been contained. The difference, if you're paying attention, is in the infection rate. Coronavirus is spreading at an insane rate.

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This should give you an idea...

Ebola has not really been "contained" in the sense I believe you are trying to say. Ebola at best can only really be considered to be in remission.

 

[smirking]

The Spanish flu of 1918 had a similar mortality rate, and it killed tens of millions.

The Spanish flu was actually way more deadly. People keep saying it had a similar mortality rate because they're getting the case fatality rate mixed up with the worldwide population death rate. Going by official numbers, the case fatality rate so far of CoV-19 is 3+%. In contrast, the worldwide death rate of the 1918 flu was 3+% of the entire world population. Source: CDC.

That said, that it isn't the Spanish Flu doesn't mean Covid19 is a just another flu. From all we know so far it is indeed way more deadly.

 

[starman111]

The Spanish flu was actually way more deadly. People keep saying it had a similar mortality rate because they're getting the case fatality rate mixed up with the worldwide population death rate. Going by official numbers, the case fatality rate so far of CoV-19 is 3+%. In contrast, the worldwide death rate of the 1918 flu was 3+% of the entire world population. Source: CDC.

That said, that it isn't the Spanish Flu doesn't mean Covid19 is a just another flu. From all we know so far it is indeed way more deadly.

I see your point. I also just watched a video of a doctor who was presenting to Congress yesterday. He said that based on the evidence that he has seen so far, this virus is probably 4 to 10 times more deadly than influenza.

He mentioned that the mortality rate for the elderly, or those with compromised immune systems was around 10%. That’s very concerning.

 

[PinkyMacGodess]

Ebola has not really been "contained" in the sense I believe you are trying to say. Ebola at best can only really be considered to be in remission.

Not even that. I went to a talk by an epidemiologist a number of years ago who said that Ebola and Marburg viruses never 'go away'. They actually mutate into a form that can't infect and cause the symptoms that kill humans. THAT is why identifying the source, and isolating as many people early enough, and stopping ridiculous (to us) traditions that further spread it, give it time to mutate to the less dangerous form. THAT is why, during one of the last large events, people freaked out because an infecte person hopped on a plane and flew to another African country, and infected a bunch of people there. I was horrified to hear that. That there is essentially no way to stop it, short of containing it, and waiting it out. I mean that's on a whole new level of OMG the planet wants to kill us!

Also, a few days ago, I looked up 'the plague', and was shocked to discover that it's STILL WITH US! There have been minor popups of the disease around the world, with, no surprise, cases happening in China. Yet there have been cases of 'the plague' right here in America. The plague killed tens of millions of people, and was satirized in a Monty Python movie, and it's still lurking out there, claiming lives. We just know how to fight it better.

Bring out your dead indeed... Life is very fragile actually, and the world isn't kind. (Stop playing with wildlife!)

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I see your point. I also just watched a video of a doctor who was presenting to Congress yesterday. He said that based on the evidence that he has seen so far, this virus is probably 4 to 10 times more deadly than influenza.

He mentioned that the mortality rate for the elderly, or those with compromised immune systems was around 10%. That’s very concerning.

Someone was also on the box talking about how children seem to be somewhat immune to it, until they aren't. So far *most* kids that get it recover, but some seem to go along looking like they are getting better, and then crash hard, and die. No idea if it's from that disease, or an opportunistic illness, or 'hospital flu' that some come down with because it's a hospital full of sick people, as the person didn't specify.

But that Washington state nursing home is done for, and the company that ran it. Someone, or someones, were not following procedures, and it's burning to the ground. It's highly contagious if that many people got it, and highly leathal if that many died. Lawyers are lining up right now, drooling over the cases they will win.

 

[Falhófnir]

This virus is 20 times as deadly as the flu, and we still have an opportunity to stop it. We should seize that opportunity!

The Spanish flu of 1918 had a similar mortality rate, and it killed tens of millions.

I'm not so sure of that, it's already spreading undetected throughout the populations of countries on every continent (if we're honest it's probably in more or less every country already, detected or not). Actively containing it to prevent its further spread, at this point is more or less no longer... well I will say feasible rather than possible as such. It may burn itself out on its own eventually, or we might help it along with a vaccine, or it may just become another endemic virus, but I don't think we actually have control of the outcome at this point.