I guess it could mean that too.
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I guess it could mean that too.
Oh, emotions and internets!! What a twisted web we weave!
Do we really need sarcasm in a forum about Apple products and services? Ask yourself what it adds to the conversation about, for example, the next version of OS X or the as-yet-undisclosed "tablet/netbook" product. Do we learn any more about Apple's intentions or the likelihood of the product as desribed in the rumor?
You could say this about any form of literary device
. Metaphors, similes, onomatopoeia - none teaches us anything about the new version of OSX. Don't single out and pick on sarcasm you meanie.
Point taken. If I may be serious, though, the other figures of speech you mention are playful and demonstrate an appreciation for language or an attempt to simplify complex subjects. Sarcasm typically amounts to nothing more than an attempt to disguise an attack on a person.
I grew up in a part of the US where sarcasm is very much a part of the culture. Then I moved to another part of the US where it isn't. I learned painfully that it has to be used appropriately and carefully or it will be taken as hostility.
You could say this about any form of literary device
Metaphors, similes, onomatopoeia - none teaches us anything about the new version of OSX. Don't single out and pick on sarcasm you meanie.
There's a reason why Oscar Wilde called sarcasm "the lowest form of wit." Posters in this forum should understand that it can easily be taken as an effort to demean another person. Sarcastic remarks are little if at all short of an insult. Nobody should be too surprised when the free use of sarcasm starts fights.
Sarcasm can just as easily be used to defuse a situation as well. As much as I love Wilde I've always thought he was wrong on this one. Sarcasm can be extremely subtle, clever, and powerful.
There's plenty on the list I consider lower than sarcasm - puns for instance. Not that they're not funny but on the level of sophistication they're down at rock bottom.
Can be, usually isn't. Amongst friends, it can be a form of affectionate jesting. Amongst strangers, especially in written form -- very dangerous.
Ouch! I mean, ouch!
It's also worth mentioning that people often misunderstand sarcasm, which is defined as "a sharp and often satirical or ironic utterance designed to cut or give pain."
Consider the famous Alanis Morissette song in which none of the things she mentioned is the least bit ironic. Rain on your wedding day is bad luck, not irony. Can't find the utensil you want at the restaurant? Also bad luck.
Sarcasm is not saying, "That's going to happen." with the idea that an exaggerated emphasis on "that" means the opposite.
Sarcasm is saying to a person who arrives late at the office, "Working a half day, today?" You have no idea about the person's circumstance or motives, but you've cast them as someone shirking his/her obligations -- never mind your own track record for arriving on-time.
Consider the famous Alanis Morissette song in which none of the things she mentioned is the least bit ironic. Rain on your wedding day is bad luck, not irony. Can't find the utensil you want at the restaurant? Also bad luck.
Sarcasm is not saying, "That's going to happen." with the idea that an exaggerated emphasis on "that" means the opposite.
Sarcasm is saying to a person who arrives late at the office, "Working a half day, today?" You have no idea about the person's circumstance or motives, but you've cast them as someone shirking his/her obligations -- never mind your own track record for arriving on-time.
Think about what your saying about British culture, without puns we'd have nothing
That isn't a pun, it's an oxymoron.
Oh, wait, you said British, not American. My bad.
Think about what your saying about British culture, without puns we'd have nothing
There is always misery and warm beer.
Sarcasm can be clever, and I'll admit you're one of the masters. But usually it's not. Stockpile sarcasm is beneath punnery.
On the "blue text=sarcasm" thing....
My thoughts exactly. Having to pre-color sarcasm would rob them of a handy dandy face-saving device which simultaneously allows them to look down their nose in a supercilious "I'm literally superior to you" sort-of way.
I mean, what else they gonna do? Say sorry?
This idea wouldn't work I'm afraid because then how would people who post something wrong or offensive then be able to claim a few posts later that it was sarcasm or irony
My thoughts exactly. Having to pre-color sarcasm would rob them of a handy dandy face-saving device which simultaneously allows them to look down their nose in a supercilious "I'm literally superior to you" sort-of way.
I mean, what else they gonna do? Say sorry?
If the blue text ever comes into favor I'm quite sure quite a few people will end up with some Rodney King moments...
There you are cruising down MacRumors highway hopped up on Comic Sans, when all of a sudden out of nowhere comes this flash of blue, which drags you out of your seat and proceeds to pummel you silly.
love the imagery of that sentence.
at this point i concede to the "
"as someone who as gotten "in to it" with a few forum members (IJ Rielly it was fun) i just thought it could help. but i see the point that you guys are making. it is kind of fun in a way to keep it ambiguous.
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I wouldn't call it the lowest form of wit, as that implies it is wit. It isn't.
It's childish abuse, smug and mocking contempt, masked in the pretense of being somehow friendly.
It is different from irony, which is subtle and can be witty.
Sarcasm is usually outgrown and discarded through a good education.
I wouldn't call it the lowest form of wit, as that implies it is wit. It isn't.
It's childish abuse, smug and mocking contempt, masked in the pretense of being somehow friendly.
It is different from irony, which is subtle and can be witty.
Sarcasm is usually outgrown and discarded through a good education.
