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When will there be a true replacement of the SB-800?

The SB-900 is half the flash it should be. It's no good for me.
 
What do you need, that those flashes not provide?

If a (paired) SB800 or Sb900 is not sufficient enough, try something like a

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/477021-REG/Hensel_7024954_Porty_Premium_Plus_1200.html
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...or something less expensive.
 
The SB-800 is discontinued and has some important features less than the SB-900.

The SB-900 is bad in terms of compatibility with older cameras.

I don't know if there's any third party flash system that has no drawbacks compared to using Nikon's own.
 
Ok, makes sense.

Metz and Sigma have good flashes too, although i have never used them. I always keep my gear the same brand. If something does not work, you don't get the walkaround, blaming the other brand when calling customer support.

However, i think that i read somewhere that Metz and Sigma can be tweaked/upgraded with software, but you'll have to look into that. For what it's worth, i've read more positive experiences with Metz than Sigma.
 
I know there are good third party flashes, but I doubt any have all the computer integration as Nikon's own. That's why I never look at them.
 
Well, I have the Metz 58 AF1 and it works pretty much perfectly with the wireless ttl with a nikon CLS..

I am really impressed with the features and power of that flash.
I used to own a Nissin Di866 and while it also did the wireless TTL it didn't quite function as well as the metz...

If you can, test the Metz..

I am contemplating of getting another one.
 
I don't get why the SB-900 isn't a proper replacement for the SB-800? In the worst case, you can always get a used SB-800 …*

Because it doesn't properly support D-TTL and cameras older than the F6.

There's at least 2 things missing in the SB-800 that interest me: the 200mm range and the color filter automation.
 
And I can get a NEW SB-900 for the same price as a used rare SB-800.
 
I know there are good third party flashes, but I doubt any have all the computer integration as Nikon's own. That's why I never look at them.

It depends a lot on how much light you need- if I were to replace my SB800, it'd probably be with a Quantum Q8N, after that, I'd look at Lumedyne and Metz. All three offer Nikon TTL modules, though I'd argue that manual control produces much better results 99% of the time. All three offer significantly more power than the SB800 or even SB900, with tubes that won't overheat with continuous use for hours, faster recycling times and good-sized battery packs.

Paul
 
Because it doesn't properly support D-TTL and cameras older than the F6.
Older than the F6? That's really old. If I were in that situation, I'd get a used SB-28(DX) or SB-80DX in addition to an SB-900.

Regarding color filter automation and a 200 mm zoom reflector, you don't really need that. Seriously. Velcro is your friend: buy gel filters, add velcro to your flash and to your gels and presto. If you want a zoom reflector that works up to 200 mm, make a snoot. It's easy.

The SB-900 is really a good flash and from the looks of it, the UI is better, too. Personally, I can't justify upgrading from my SB-600, though ;)
 
Older than the F6? That's really old. If I were in that situation, I'd get a used SB-28(DX) or SB-80DX in addition to an SB-900.

Regarding color filter automation and a 200 mm zoom reflector, you don't really need that. Seriously. Velcro is your friend: buy gel filters, add velcro to your flash and to your gels and presto. If you want a zoom reflector that works up to 200 mm, make a snoot. It's easy.

The SB-900 is really a good flash and from the looks of it, the UI is better, too. Personally, I can't justify upgrading from my SB-600, though ;)

I already have an SB-28 and an SB-80DX. Now I also need the new stuff and want to be able to use it together with the 80DX on some of the old bodies.

The SB-900 allows the newer bodies to be aware of the color filter used, that's what I'm talking about.
 
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