Scam or not?

Discussion in 'Buying Tips, Advice and Discussion (archive)' started by mmmdreg, Feb 23, 2005.

  1. mmmdreg macrumors 65816


    Apr 14, 2002
    Sydney, Australia
    Theres a guy in Italy trying to sell an Australian road-registered car at a really underpriced price. On request for him to send it to Australia (from Italy) prior to payment, he sends an email as attached. It reminds me of the p-p-powerbook thingie in another thread recently. Is legit?

    Don't worry because I understand you perfectly!You
    don;t know me and you can't just send someone 5000AUD
    without having any guarantee that you will receive the
    car!So I will respect your decision on seeing the car
    before sending me any money!
    The thing is until now 2 persons have tried to scam me
    so this is how I suggest we do the deal. You do not
    want to send the money directly to me and wait for me
    to send the car along with the papers and I do not
    want to send the car and wait for you to send the
    money so this is how I suggest we do .We can make our
    business through in this way
    both of us will have the assurance that we need. By
    dealing with a third party means dealing* with a
    neutral party, a company that verifies if the
    merchandise is* sent and corresponds to what seller
    agreed with the buyer and release* the money only
    after the merchandise was accepted. This is how a
    transaction setup at works:
     1. Both parties get registered with the following
    details: buyer and* seller name, address, phone
    number, email, item sold or purchased,* price,
     2. Both parties will receive a confirmation with the
    details of the transaction and a number to identify
    the transaction on;
     3. Buyer sends the funds to;
     4. After the funds have been received at, a confirmation email will be
    forwarded to the seller in order for it to ship the
     5. The item purchased is inspected by the buyer (the
    inspection period is agreed with the buyer). After the
    buyer confirms to that the
    item is as agreed with the seller, the funds are
    transferred to the seller name.
    If the buyer does not agree with the merchandise by
    any reason, the merchandise will be sent to .The merchandise will be sent
    to the seller after the seller will cover the shipping
    and money transfer expenses. Also the entire amount
    sent by the buyer will be refunded (including money
    transfer expenses).After the payment will be confirmed
    by Trade Secure World I will send the car along with
    papers to prove and you could verify it .You will have
    a test period in which you can do with the car
    everything you want (except destroy it of course).If
    after the test period you agree to keep the car you
    will inform Trade Secure World of your decision and
    they will transfer the money to me. Rest assured that
    if everything will be perfectly safe as I won't be
    able to touch the money until you will agree to the
    car and inform that you wish
    to keep it. If by any chance you do not want to keep
    the car I will arrange for the shipment back to me and
    you will receive your money back from the escrow
    If everything is ok with you then please reply me soon
    with your decision!
    Thank you!
  2. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Nope, that's got the scam code inside it...
  3. mcgarry macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2004
  4. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

    Jul 4, 2004
    Hmmm... no contact details except an email address.

    Then this...

    "Trade Secure World fully licensed (sic) and accredited as an escrow company license #963-1167"

    Licensed with whom? And there's also the small matter of the typo in that statement...

    Also, a Google for an exact name match looks like this

    Nothing to go on, but hardly reassuring.
  5. cmvsm macrumors 6502a


    Nov 12, 2004
    Scam Central!! That website gives no address or phone numbers, only a website address. It also doesn't state anything about the history of the company, only the history of whatever transaction technology they are using.

    Depending on the amount, tell the guy you'll use Paypal or nothing else. I'm sure he'll have a problem with that. I ran into the same situation with an Apple computer and they kept asking me to submit to a bogus online escrow service.

    Kick em in the ballsack... :D
  6. Peterkro macrumors 68020


    Aug 17, 2004
    Communard de Londres
    Unless its some sort of special car the economics of shipping a car from Italy to OZ is very dubious.
  7. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
    Remember's escrow service was developed by Micro General Corporation, e-Bay bought the entire subsidiary -- Internet Escrow Services.

    They are the only ones using it.

    Basically anyone claiming to use it is most likely a fraud.
  8. mcgarry macrumors 6502a


    Oct 19, 2004
    Seriously, looks like a total scam. Click on their verisign link link from the main page.

    They didn't even bother to change the text that says (emphasis added):

    "To ensure that this is a legitimate VeriSign Secure Site, make sure that:

    1. The original URL of the site you are visiting comes from

    2. The URL of this page is .

    3. The status of the Server ID is Valid."

    Oh, the pretty flags!

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