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Schematic Purportedly Shows Next-Generation iPhone Front Panel Design with 4-Inch Display
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^ I like that VERY much!!
Especially a) uniform colour banding on the back metal plate, b) rocker volume button return from 3GS (I LOVED that so much). Very pleased as that system worked great with cases.
Is it not time that our smartphones have stereo speakers to help the quality of sound output that all of our media is capable of on our iPhones?
Thoughts on connectivity
The schematics and the pictures of the shells for the new iphone seem to show a different size port at the bottom of the phone. Does this mean they are abandoning the apple signature cable that has been used for all previous generation iPhones, iPads, and iPods and are going to establish a new type of connection or that they are going to go with some type of mini USB?
The schematics and the pictures of the shells for the new iphone seem to show a different size port at the bottom of the phone. Does this mean they are abandoning the apple signature cable that has been used for all previous generation iPhones, iPads, and iPods and are going to establish a new type of connection or that they are going to go with some type of mini USB?
... That's exactly what I'm saying, and are we in the 80s? Don't call me buddy.
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We don't know, we won't know until at the earliest, we get a part leak, but probably not until Apple announces the new iPhone.
tell me how you make a perfect omelet
buddys an 80's term? i should stop using the term rad then
At RIM we had an average of 30-40 technical schematics for prototypes laying around. Maybe one of those would actually make it to design stage and even then it had a slim chance of going to production.
I'd say Apple is doing a good job keeping things secure if only one, possibly but unlikely legit, schematic made its way off somebody's drafting board in Cupertino.
I'd say Apple is doing a good job keeping things secure if only one, possibly but unlikely legit, schematic made its way off somebody's drafting board in Cupertino.
tell me how you make a perfect omelet
buddys an 80's term? i should stop using the term rad then
Idk if it's from the 80s, 80s was a euphemism for old.
Arrrgghhh! Why do I keep reading this??!?!
Right as has been said on here already has anyone ever seen evidence for apple producing fakes for the purposes of misdirection? I don't mean disguises I mean fakes? It is incredibly expensive to produce prototypes, both in man hours on design and the cost of tooling up.
All the evidence I've seen for "fakes" have turned out to be prototypes. Look at the iPad with landscape and portrait dock connectors. It was a big rumour at the time and some called it a decoy. Well that decoy turned out to be a prototype and is on eBay right now.
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Why the hell are people saying "what a letdown. It's just another 4s!"????? How the hell can you justify that conclusion?? If this was the basis of the new phone here's the list of things that would change as a minimum:
New larger screen
Brand new Unibody construction (with family design touches, an Apple trait)
LTE (all but confirmed)
Larger battery (If you have LTE!)
New processor
More memory (both must haves to drive the screen)
New connector
Improved speakers
So new screen size, connectivity, body/design, battery, processor and memory.
How the hell is that the same phone?!? That's a bigger jump that the iPhone 1 to 3G. It's arguable it's a bigger jump than the 3Gs to 4 (Same connectivity and screen size). Those are the two most vaunted upgrades in iPhone history.
That's without knowing if there is something killer we don't know about yet. It might be from ios6 (like Siri) or a hardware feature. So don't get too upset or excited. It's only a phone. When it's launched you can make an assessment and buy it or not buy it. There are plenty of other options out there now, you'll find something for you.
Right as has been said on here already has anyone ever seen evidence for apple producing fakes for the purposes of misdirection? I don't mean disguises I mean fakes? It is incredibly expensive to produce prototypes, both in man hours on design and the cost of tooling up.
All the evidence I've seen for "fakes" have turned out to be prototypes. Look at the iPad with landscape and portrait dock connectors. It was a big rumour at the time and some called it a decoy. Well that decoy turned out to be a prototype and is on eBay right now.
AND!
Why the hell are people saying "what a letdown. It's just another 4s!"????? How the hell can you justify that conclusion?? If this was the basis of the new phone here's the list of things that would change as a minimum:
New larger screen
Brand new Unibody construction (with family design touches, an Apple trait)
LTE (all but confirmed)
Larger battery (If you have LTE!)
New processor
More memory (both must haves to drive the screen)
New connector
Improved speakers
So new screen size, connectivity, body/design, battery, processor and memory.
How the hell is that the same phone?!? That's a bigger jump that the iPhone 1 to 3G. It's arguable it's a bigger jump than the 3Gs to 4 (Same connectivity and screen size). Those are the two most vaunted upgrades in iPhone history.
That's without knowing if there is something killer we don't know about yet. It might be from ios6 (like Siri) or a hardware feature. So don't get too upset or excited. It's only a phone. When it's launched you can make an assessment and buy it or not buy it. There are plenty of other options out there now, you'll find something for you.
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Another quick note. A company of Apple's wealth and experience wouldn't they have rapid prototyping in their own offices? A place they can control much more tightly than using chinese manufacturers. If this has come from the Chinese parts supply the design must have been produced in significant numbers to justify it. I would say it's likely that this is a design being widely tested and probably points to this being the likely design for the phone.
It makes sense give the users more screen but still make the phone usable for all hand sizes.
And personally I think the bands on the top and bottom of the phone could look great. They already tried to make the front and back of the phone have a coherent design on the 4/4S. The glass back mimics the front and compliments it. The bands on this design mimic the front bezel and follow that same design thinking. This design also brings significant advantages. The body will be stronger but slimmer and allow for a bigger battery. No more cracked back phones (you see it every day and it's not a good advert for the phone) and reduce cost. It also matches the design of almost all of their other products. I don't see why people think it's far fetched. It makes a LOT of sense.
It makes sense give the users more screen but still make the phone usable for all hand sizes.
And personally I think the bands on the top and bottom of the phone could look great. They already tried to make the front and back of the phone have a coherent design on the 4/4S. The glass back mimics the front and compliments it. The bands on this design mimic the front bezel and follow that same design thinking. This design also brings significant advantages. The body will be stronger but slimmer and allow for a bigger battery. No more cracked back phones (you see it every day and it's not a good advert for the phone) and reduce cost. It also matches the design of almost all of their other products. I don't see why people think it's far fetched. It makes a LOT of sense.
Agreed that it's unlikely to be a fake.
However, prototype cases are done all the time. They're not that costly nowadays, even if such expense mattered to Apple.
So it's almost certainly a prototype design that was used to try out the idea of an elongated screen.
The major question is, does it still reflect the final design?
PLEASE no... I do not want a larger screen if it is going to be taller, that looks so awful IMO. I want it too be similar to the Tapered designs we saw rumored before the iPhone 4s when the screen had the same aspect ratio but was bigger.
I have a 4s as my personal phone and a Galaxy SII as my work phone. I like the shape of the galaxy, but it could be a little smaller (from 4.5" down to 4.0-4.2) and I think it would be the perfect size.
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It seems like a cop out to me... A larger screen, yet its really only taller for the most part... I want the tapered look rumored alongside the iPhone 4s... I like that much better, where it had a bigger screen and almost looked like a tiny iPad.
I have a 4s as my personal phone and a Galaxy SII as my work phone. I like the shape of the galaxy, but it could be a little smaller (from 4.5" down to 4.0-4.2) and I think it would be the perfect size.
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It seems like a cop out to me... A larger screen, yet its really only taller for the most part... I want the tapered look rumored alongside the iPhone 4s... I like that much better, where it had a bigger screen and almost looked like a tiny iPad.
making the screen longer only would be a big mistake.. just make it proportionally bigger..
I agree. And you are not in the minority. If you look at the market for phones, 4.3-4.5 appears to clearly be the market favorite - you have lots of Android and other phones from 3.5 to 5+ and this is where the overwhelming demand is.
The other thing to remember is tapering vs. straight edge/flat slides. Current flat sides are great as they let you place phone lying sitting up on your desk. But less comfortable to hold. Tapered devices can be wider and still feel similar in your hand to a comparable straight edge. Go to any mobile phone store and hold both and you can see the difference.
I'm let down by this rumor as I prefer a touch more width for easier reading of web pages. Holding the phone sideways is great for movies, but I find less comfortable and handy for reading kindle apps, newsreaders or web pages. So I do prefer the kind of phones displays that Samsung is making even though I'm all in on Apple ecosystem (ipad, iphone, macbook, imac, etc.).
I can't say he lost it. What concerns me is the screen size that he is probably designing around. Because of the OS and the connections to the eco-system, people like me stick with iPhone. But I have to tell you that looking at the Galaxy S3, I'm not sure I won't jump if this is the alternative. Might stay for ease, but I really find the screen too small (too hard on eyes reading kindle app or safari and holding phone sideways awkward). Love the macbook air, the ipad, my imac. But other than Siri, was cold on 4S (opted to wait even though I could have upgraded).
There isn't models with screen this size to qualify that statement. People choose what is available and there hasn't been a decent 16:9 phone available. Apple has a remarkable record on finding not what people want but what people need or will want when Apple has shown them a compelling reason.
I think I might prefer a 4" with the same screen ratio as I have large hands and you want the same. However it would be a mistake to assume everyone thinks that way.
Oddly, you did not mention:
-Industry leading screen (not incremental improvement)
-New camera (though may happen)
-More storage
4S clearly sold well and their are always doomsayers (still remember people who hated "iPad" name). But I have to say it really left a lot of us cold and let down. Anyone know if you can run iTunes syncing easily on a Samsung S3? If so, I might personally switch (not going to give a rant and say I will, but I'm actually considering and again do feel let down on this - and you can search my other older posts. I'm not an apple basher or anything like that....
Oh god.. the same uncomfortable ice cream sandwich-like design? C'mon Apple you can do better, add a little curve to it.
Otherwise, looks good to me!
Otherwise, looks good to me!
Honest question. What would you think if Apple released an iPhone with the Galaxy SIII's design? I think a lot of people would call it the worst iPhone design ever, while others would like it solely for the screen size, but the case wouldn't get any points for style. I personally don't see why a phone's shell needs to significantly change every iteration or even every other one. If Apple did that with laptops, they'd be star shaped or something by now.
Change for the sake of change is pointless. If you have a great design, keep it and refine it until you come up with a design that's actually better, not just different.
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The issue is the use in a vertical setting and that is where I think the market has spoken. On the horizontal side and watching movies, I agree interesting. It may be apple is looking at this from a movie watching perspective.
Again, most people hold their phones vertical for the majority of the time and that is where I'm wondering on whether this is an optimal layout.
You will notice this is the same tradoff we see with laptops as they have gone to more movie friendly formats of shorter, wider displays.
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I think people might like a tweaked design similar to SIII. Having said that, the SIII has two problems to me. First is poor quality materials. Second is a still weaker OS. But specs are impressive and I'm betting if Apple sold both screen sizes (won't happen), the larger one would win. But the overall design is still interesting. On materials, I agree with the superior solidity and quality of Apple materials, will have to see how future designs with ceramic and carbon fiber work (though they may be years away).
Tapering is the tricky bag to me - I personally prefer it as its nicer to hold the phone (that was the advantage of the earlier iphones). But the flat sides definitely look sharp and make it easier to put vertically (clear advantages of 4/4s). Perhaps a new design will be like iPad3, however new macbook pros coming this month will also hint at future design aesthetics.
Don't like. I don't know why Apple insists we all have tiny girly T-rex hands and leprechaun pockets. The current screen is just too darn small to use as a browser, reader, or vid player. I realize it's a phone, but if all I wanted was phone, I sure wouldn't have needed a device with the capabilities AND PRICE of the iPhone.
I'm not sure this 4" screen is quite big enough. The new One X and Galaxy S3 have displays that I think are perfect sized to actually use the device for more than a phone. If you haven't seen the One X, the screen is gorgeous. I do have an iPad and I must use it for everything non phone related but if the iPhone had a slightly bigger screen, I wouldn't need to lug around two devices all the time.
I've been using an iphone in some variation for 5 years now and few have defended the iPhone to Android fan boys as fervently as I have in the past, but I may just jump ship this time. Just as disappointed this time around as I was last year. Ok, flame suit on...
I'm not sure this 4" screen is quite big enough. The new One X and Galaxy S3 have displays that I think are perfect sized to actually use the device for more than a phone. If you haven't seen the One X, the screen is gorgeous. I do have an iPad and I must use it for everything non phone related but if the iPhone had a slightly bigger screen, I wouldn't need to lug around two devices all the time.
I've been using an iphone in some variation for 5 years now and few have defended the iPhone to Android fan boys as fervently as I have in the past, but I may just jump ship this time. Just as disappointed this time around as I was last year. Ok, flame suit on...
Doubling down on the secrecy of their products will begin when they actually build something different. Still looks like more of the same......