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Not iPod only

Seems silly that everyone says iPod is the only portable music player iTunes songs work with. The most popular portable music players are still CD players. Anything purchased on iTunes is easily burned to work on a CD player.
 
Originally posted by bousozoku
It isn't possible to get that seemless integration with another player. Apple doesn't have a plug-in architecture available. iTunes exists solely to sell iPod players. You can certainly export your information to another place and find ways to access it and put it onto another player, but then, you might as well be using another product instead.

I'm glad to see Scott Blum is off his high horse now. I just hope that Apple has plans for the onslaught.

No, iTunes exists as as a jukebox player for the mac...it was here long before the iPod. Now, the iTMS exits to sell iPods.
 
I can't even use buymusic.com if I wanted to. Visiting the site yields the following dead end:

"Thank you for visiting BuyMusic.com.

In order to take full advantage of BuyMusic.com's offerings you must be on a Windows Operating System using Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher."
 
Originally posted by Tulse
Blum actually expected to sell over 350 million songs annually? Where the heck did he pull those estimates from? And why hasn't the BuyMusic board of directors fired him for gross incompetence?

(I know I read recently somewhere what the number songs sold on traditional physical CDs are, but I can't find it now -- anyone have that figure?)

10,000,000,000
 
Originally posted by pjkelnhofer
I know this is getting off topic but I thought Sony (PS2) still dominated that market. I could be mistaken.

Nope, you're right. Sony currently has the largest marketshare, XBox is second and Nintendo is somewhere behind.
 
Way to Go Apple!

Keep up the good work Apple! Time will definitely tell which online music service will be superior and will dominate in the end. All these other fly-by-night music services will fail, and Apple, the pioneer, will outlive them all!
 
I agree!

Originally posted by biaachmonkie
About the iPod/iTunes being open, I can understand making iTunes only work with the iPod, why support competing music players given that that is where the real money is according to Apple. But Apple should certainly make the iPod support EVERY available format possible, make the iPod work with every other music store. That will sell more iPods, and that is where the money is right? Add to that once people get an iPod they'll try the available music stores, see how they all cost the same, and that iTunes is the easiest to use, etc... and use it...

So leave iTunes closed, but open the iPod...



I agree - if ITMS exists to sell iPods, as biaachmonkie says, surely making the iPod compatible with all the other music services is in Apple's interest - especially as Jobs is always saying that they don't make any money selling songs. Have all the music download sites out there as an incentive to buy an iPod! People will soon realise that ITMS is the most elegant solution out there.

The iPod is in real short supply in the UK this Christmas - and ITMS has NOTHING to do with that! Style, build-quality and reputation of the iPod and the iTunes software itself are what make it a must-have.

I really hope Apple have many more tricks up their sleeve and that the roadmap for the iPod has a few surprises on it. Revisions of the machine must be innovative and as desirable as the current batch. (Not talking about video - IMHO it should focus on being the best music player out there).

Incidently a friend of mine who has owned and worked with PCs for over ten years bought a 20GB iPod and is now saving up for a Pbook...
 
Re: I agree!

Originally posted by fluidfloyd
I agree - if ITMS exists to sell iPods, as biaachmonkie says, surely making the iPod compatible with all the other music services is in Apple's interest - especially as Jobs is always saying that they don't make any money selling songs.
>>> snip

Not quite true!

iPod's AAC exclusivity serves to make iTMS the dominant music service, and iTMS' AAC exclusivity gives iPod a key selling proposition (the only digital music player with iTMS compatibility guaranteed).

The coolness/hip factor of iPod drives the whole thing, combined with great product quality.

Compatability with WMA shouldn't be considered until the WMA services have failed/been discredited beyond repair, and then only if MS waives any concept of a royalty fee and says "Sorry" for being a bunch of buttwads.
 
Re: Re: I agree!

Originally posted by MCCFR
iPod's AAC exclusivity serves to make iTMS the dominant music service...
So? Apple has repeatedly said that they don't make money from iTMS. Besides, very few people who have a choice in music services will make that choice because of the specific file format, unless their hardware restricts them. Its not like people (outside of places like this message board) are going around saying, "Hmm... iTMS or MusicMatch... which one supports AAC?" The main reason that iTMS is more sucessful, IMO, even more so than the ease of use, is that they are advertising the heck out of it - much more so than the other services combined.

-Richard
 
Originally posted by iGAV
could you add....

Must... Have... European iTunes Music Store
Must... Have... European iTunes Music Store
Must... Have... European iTunes Music Store

;) :p

-iGAV

This is something that needs yelled at the EPO for - Apple has not control of the schedule.
 
Originally posted by svpribyl
I can't even use buymusic.com if I wanted to. Visiting the site yields the following dead end:

"Thank you for visiting BuyMusic.com.

In order to take full advantage of BuyMusic.com's offerings you must be on a Windows Operating System using Internet Explorer version 5.0 or higher."

-svpribyl

It's a snub. There is no technical reason why a Mac can't surf BuyMusic. It's essentially a company saying "Nya-nya! You're using a Mac, so we don't like you!"

If you are using Safari as you browser, make sure Safari is not running, open terminal and type:

defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1

Launch Safari. You should see a new menu along the top called "Debug". In that is a hierarchical menu item named "User Agent". Select MSIE 6.0, and then go to BuyMusic. They'll think you are a Windows PC running IE 6 and let you in.

Course, why would you want to - besides delivering defense against snide comments by WindHeads.
 
Did it really help them? No it didn't. They have now lost all that market share back to Nintendo which killed it in few months.
The only thing that keeps the Xbox alive now is hopes of Halo 2 and Gates knows it.


I know that this post was located quite a ways back in the thread, but I just read it and had to comment. I just beg that the actual numbers be taken into consideration. XBOX is second only to PS2 in hardware sold. The only thing keeping Nintendo alive is the massive price cuts, and unfortunately it looks like they are going to go the way of Sega. The thing keeping XBOX ahead is the technical advantage it has over Nintendo, not to mention the better titles.

It just looks like people could contorl their hatred for M$ from spilling into the video game world, because the XBOX is a very good product, despite Bill being behind it.

Sorry for the deviation in subject, but if things are going to be talked about, let's talk about them correclty, please.

Congratulations to iTunes, by the way. I hope with the extra exposure the Music Store gets, more people will get a chance to experience Apple's greatness.
 
Originally posted by BigMacGuy
Did it really help them? No it didn't. They have now lost all that market share back to Nintendo which killed it in few months.
The only thing that keeps the Xbox alive now is hopes of Halo 2 and Gates knows it.


I know that this post was located quite a ways back in the thread, but I just read it and had to comment. I just beg that the actual numbers be taken into consideration. XBOX is second only to PS2 in hardware sold. The only thing keeping Nintendo alive is the massive price cuts, and unfortunately it looks like they are going to go the way of Sega. The thing keeping XBOX ahead is the technical advantage it has over Nintendo, not to mention the better titles.

It just looks like people could contorl their hatred for M$ from spilling into the video game world, because the XBOX is a very good product, despite Bill being behind it.

Sorry for the deviation in subject, but if things are going to be talked about, let's talk about them correclty, please.

Congratulations to iTunes, by the way. I hope with the extra exposure the Music Store gets, more people will get a chance to experience Apple's greatness.

Well, no. The XBox is selling horribly in Europe and Japan. The XBox is BARLY infront of the GCN, and I wouldn't be surprised when it's all done, the XBox is thrid in the US. Currently, the old GAMEBOY COLOR has sold more than the XBox...
 
I own all three systems, I own several flagship titles for each of them (Jak & Dax, FFX, Halo, Super Mario Sunshine, Zelda: The Wind Waker). All I can say is that the only reasons the Xbox hasn't failed miserably are because of Xbox Live (Which is terrible--keep in mind I own it and play mechassault often), seeming cool and appealing to black people (they've been using a black announcer in their ads and advertising in predominantly "black" tv shows), Halo, the bragging rights of having the most "powerful" system and the ridiculously low prices that Microsoft can sell the xbox for due to their wealth. Those are the only reasons the Xbox is still here.
 
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