Scratching the $1300 dollar Apple Watch - is it really 'Sapphire'?

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by smellysox8, Sep 28, 2017.

  1. smellysox8 macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2012
  2. Ffosse macrumors 68000

    Nov 5, 2012
    I've got a ceramic and sapphire Rado watch which is 12 years old and shows no signs of scratching on the case, bracelet or sapphire dial. I don't know how Apple can get away with this for that price.
  3. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    Apple Watch owner here with Multiple stainless models. None of them have any scratches on them after daily wear. The sapphire display has been worth the extra money spent in protecting the display. Whatever these "Tests" show has not been conducive of real word experience for me.
  4. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 604


    Jan 17, 2013
    Wales, United Kingdom
    I own several watches with sapphire crystal faces and they are extremely difficult to scratch. I would go as far as to say Apple are marketing this product under false pretences. It’s evidently not sapphire grade crystal and it is extremely dishonest to advertise it as such.
  5. rKunda macrumors 65816


    Jul 14, 2008
    This same sapphire controversy seems to come up and die every single year. Some people want clicks on their channels.
  6. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68020

    Mar 30, 2015
    100% agreement and I have never been anything short of rough on my watches for every sport, yard work. Haven’t been spending too much time digging through razor blades though.
  7. twennywonn macrumors regular

    Mar 15, 2012
    I will say my AW2 stainless had some pretty bad scratches on the display but my AW0 was fine.
  8. smellysox8 thread starter macrumors regular

    Oct 5, 2012
    Hmm I guess we have to trust your anecdotal evidence over the the mohs hardness scale :rolleyes:

    No wonder Apple fleeces it customers so easily...
  9. cawsllyffant macrumors newbie


    Sep 28, 2017
    This guy again.... he seems to make a pattern of these claims.

    There are others, he's made the same claim about the iPhone8. I remember that last video's claims being a big deal right after my iPhone 7 arrived.

    I've seen numerous people (random people on the internet whose credentials I can't verify) say that he is using the Moh's hardness scale picks incorrectly (just see the first one). Basically saying the same thing that Corning said in response but I can't speak to the veracity of that.

    What I can say is that my iPhone 7 camera and home button have never scratched, nor have any of the apple watches I've owned (3rd just arrived)...even though I often workout fairly heavy kettlebells and dumbells. They would have 6.5 hardness and brush against/swipe over/bounce off of the screen with regularity, so if his tests are correct I should be seeing lots of scratches from these. [And I'm not talking about lightweight 40lbs-ers here, either... so the scratches should be pretty noticeable.]

    Also, if you look at his videos it seems that every manufacturer he reviews seems to be 'lying' about the hardness of their products. (or at least most of them). And he never shows the scratches in enough detail for us to determine if he is just rubbing of a coating, or if we are seeing the material from the picks rubbing off on the sapphire.

    Seems fishy to me, either an industry-wide conspiracy which everyone is keeping quiet about or one guy using his tools incorrectly.
  10. Cnasty macrumors 68040


    Jul 2, 2008
    Bingo and here are the same sheep following to click and watch and spread this nonsense.

    I enjoy YT for some of the content creators but when crap like this is done consistently for attention and views it is unwatchable.
  11. Relentless Power, Sep 28, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2017

    Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

    Relentless Power

    Jul 12, 2016
    Your last sentence seems to me you have a problem with Apple, which appears evident of the nature of your Post.

    Aside from the clickbait video you posted, I have enough experience with the stainless Apple Watch model to formulate facts on my uses. And fact that I don't take razor blades to my sapphire display, as if that is supposed to serve as a real concern to others experiences? My anecdotal evidence is direct real world experience using and wearing my Apple Watches on a daily basis. None of them have scratches, nor do I need to refer to her YouTube videos to determine how durable they really are in hopes of click bait material . My tests are wearing them And by my standards, they pass with flying colors.
  12. Newtons Apple macrumors Core

    Newtons Apple

    Mar 12, 2014
    Jacksonville, Florida
    So many threads on this.
    When I go back and look at all your previous stated threads . . . . .

    Why does it upset you when it is us getting "fleeced"?
  13. richard371 macrumors 68020

    Feb 1, 2008
    nothing new here. In real world use the Sapphire AWs have been holding up well. We know that sapphire doesn't handle light as well as glass etc so for the AW face and camera lens they may have to use a differ formula that's not as pure?
  14. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68020

    Mar 30, 2015
    And the people here are real life tests. We have used the watch daily for 2+ years. I usually avoid razor blades and drills on my watch face.
  15. BarracksSi Suspended


    Jul 14, 2015
    I'd upvote this and mark it as the best answer if this were Stack Exchange.

    The misinformation and knee-jerk hysteria on these forums needs to be squashed.
  16. jags828 macrumors member

    Oct 31, 2013
    My Stainless Steel Space Black Series 2 has a scratch, no clue how it got there. But they do scratch.
  17. richard371 macrumors 68020

    Feb 1, 2008
    People have had their Rolex and Omega sapphire crystals scratched. It happens.
  18. 2010lexus macrumors regular

    Oct 18, 2013
    So let’s see the scratch.
  19. Trent0341 macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2007
    It is pretty obvious through both my own anecdotal experience as well as actual testing done that this is a legitimate sapphire crystal. I have three other watches with sapphire crystals and I have zero doubt that this real crystal...

    P.S. this may come as a shock to the OP (and other who have posted this same thread in years past)... Sapphire does scratch! From Rolexes to JLCs to PP... they can all scratch. My best advice? Try not to drill them.
  20. Billburns macrumors 6502


    Mar 27, 2017
    But he scratched the watch... easily
  21. Analog Kid macrumors 601

    Analog Kid

    Mar 4, 2003
    Are you at all concerned about the fleecing by pseudo-science YouTube entrepreneurs....
  22. Billburns macrumors 6502


    Mar 27, 2017
    Some of you try so hard to defend Apple, it’s kinda sad
  23. Trent0341 macrumors 6502

    Jun 3, 2007
    I would hardly call myself someone who defends Apple... I would call some of you on this thread ignorant of what sapphire crystal is. Here are a couple of facts:

    1. Apple use sapphire in their stainless steel and ceramic watches. This has been verified. If you care enough you are welcome to do your own research.

    2. Sapphire scratches... period. It is not some sort of indestructible material. It is, however, much better than what is on the sport watches as far as scratch resistance goes.

    3. Watches generally start to show up with sapphire crystals in the $500 range giver or take. Apple is right in line with that.

    I'm just kind of confused that there is anyone is surprised that sapphire (Apple or otherwise) can be scratched.
  24. jags828 macrumors member

    Oct 31, 2013
    Top left of the watch, it goes further down, hard to capture in the pic though. It’s only noticeable if you are looking for it, but once I seen it the first time, I always look for it haha.

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  25. perezr10 macrumors 6502a

    Jan 12, 2014
    Monroe, Louisiana
    Go to eBay and look at all the Stainless Steel watches for sale and you’ll see that they all have flawless screens. Not some of them, all of them.

    Then go look at all the Sports for sale. Yeah, I’d say it’s worthwhile getting the sapphire.

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