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KSM5000

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I have a 2017 iMac with Intel processor that is running incredibly slowly. I read that I can run macOS on an external SSD to, hopefully, speed things up. I bought a Crucial X9 Pro for Mac 1TB SSD. I formatted it to APFS with the GUID partition map, downloaded Ventura from the App Store and installed it on the external drive. In system preferences I have selected the external drive as the startup disk but when I try to restart I get error 104. Any suggestions?

Thanks.
 

KSM5000

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Thanks. I'm familiar with the post. I'm not sure that it provides and answer to my problem.
 

Fishrrman

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Just a few thoughts.

You didn't tell us WHICH OS is on the iMac's internal drive.

I realize you have Ventura installed, but have you considered wiping the X9 clean, and then try a different OS instead?

I'm thinking, "Monterey".

If nothing else works...
... from a powered-off status, can you successfully boot by holding down the option key to invoke the startup manager?
 

KSM5000

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Feb 18, 2024
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Just a few thoughts.

You didn't tell us WHICH OS is on the iMac's internal drive.

I realize you have Ventura installed, but have you considered wiping the X9 clean, and then try a different OS instead?

I'm thinking, "Monterey".

If nothing else works...
... from a powered-off status, can you successfully boot by holding down the option key to invoke the startup manager?
Thanks for this. To clarify, Ventura is installed on the internal drive and I can always successfully boot into that drive. I have wiped and installed Ventura on the external drive a few times trying both APFS and Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as files systems. Monterey is a good suggestion. I'll give it a try.
 

KSM5000

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As a follow up... I used terminal to create a bootable disk to install Ventura onto the external SSD. Following that installation the SSD does not appear anywhere as a startup option, whether in system settings/ startup disk or in the startup manager. I never get to the point of setting up as a new computer.
2017 iMac 2.5", running Ventura 13.6.4, 2.3 GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i5 processor, no evidence of a T2 security chip.
Apparently Monterey is not an option if I'm running Ventura already. It's all making me a bit crazy. Thanks for any support.
 

KSM5000

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Further follow up. I just had complete success using a G Drive Mobile drive I had lying around. - that is, installing and running Ventura on an external drive. Unfortunately it's not SSD tech so won't solve my speed issues, but seems to prove I was doing things correctly and the Crucial drive is the issue. I've reached out to Crucial.
 
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KSM5000

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One final follow up. After a couple communications with Crucial support, I returned the X9 Pro and picked up a Samsung T7 (that was actually $30 cheaper). Formatted it and installed Ventura without a hitch (although it took a while). The iMac is now dramatically faster. Exactly the result I was looking for.
 

greyeyezz

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What you can do is use carbon copy cloner to do a standard backup(files, apps, settings) to your T7, then run the ventura installer right onto the T7 and you will boot into a perfectly cloned, identical, freshly installed OS as your internal.

 

aimunna

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One final follow up. After a couple communications with Crucial support, I returned the X9 Pro and picked up a Samsung T7 (that was actually $30 cheaper). Formatted it and installed Ventura without a hitch (although it took a while). The iMac is now dramatically faster. Exactly the result I was looking for.
Hi, I'm having exactly similar issues with a SANDISK Portable - USB 3.2 Gen 2 1TB drive. I tried fresh installing Ventura, it'll download all files and take quite a bit of time installing but near to the end will fail. Then I tried cloning the onboard HDD into the SSD which seems to be completed without an issue, now when I try to set the SSD as the boot Drive, it'll fail with the Error 104. I think I'll not be able to return the SSD, is there any list of drives which will be compatible for upgrading iMac?
 
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