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Seagate Debuts iOS-Compatible Storage Option, Personal Cloud and Ultra-Thin Portable Hard Drive

You have it exactly backwards.

For those of us that do not have good internet it's best for home. Putting everything in internet cloud services is not an option as either they cannot be accessed or internet is too slow to access and use as a streaming service. This is our best option at home, a personal cloud. With a personal cloud everyone can access the streaming video, music, etc. that is not reachable as a cloud service through the internet.

I say "forget the road" when referring to accessing your personal cloud as it is designed which is through the internet while it is at home. On the road accessing the personal cloud through internet is just as impossible as accessing icloud, onedrive, dropbox, etc. I'm not sure how you think it's best for the road unless you plan on dragging along whatever you are using for a personal cloud, which is not always possible. In that case it's ok for the road but best for home as it's stationary and everyone has access.






RicAlonso said:
I don't understand how you can say "forget the road" when it comes to personal/home cloud computing. That's the whole point of it. If you're at home you don't need "personal cloud computing" because, well, you're already in the "cloud." The only time you would ever use a personal cloud is when you are on the road.

I agree that not everyone lives in the same situation. However, a personal cloud is only useful when you are away from home, regardless of your situation.
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lordofthereef said:
Why was I quoted here? …
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https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=20557166#post20557166 is edited to include the context and response.

(Sorry – I lost track of things whilst searching in umpteen other tabs when I first made that post.)

Haynzee said:
Had nothing but trouble with Seagate drives no longer will I buy them from the cheap ones to the expensive all fail very early.
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Within the warranty period? Was there any pattern to the failures in your environment?

(The thing I was seeking: context in the backblaze.com domain … I just discovered, that context has been lost – Backblaze Blog: No Comment. | Backblaze Blog | The Life of a Cloud Backup Company (undated, presumably late 2014).)
 
Alenore said:
When exactly did "thinness" become a selling point for tech enthusiasts?
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I had always wondered that myself. I will gladly sacrifice a few millimetres in thickness and a few grammes in weight if it means I get better battery life and a camera that is flush with the bottom chassis. I do not know why Apple has to make it so thin and as a result battery on iPhone 6 is identically "long" lasting as the predecessor.
 
charlituna said:
If Apple had created this, especially the notion of a drive for having media etc accessible on your device but not on it, that space lawsuit might make more sense. They are arguiing that Apple is bloating iOS 8 to force folks to buy more icloud. But icloud isn't about extending space so much as mirroring devices as a backup. If these drives were Apple, they might have an argument. Then again, even with this being third party they might try to claim Apple did it to push these items

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Most still don't. I've been at $600 a night hotels that made you pay for in room wifi.

And even if it is free, it's not always fast. Often one network covers a whole floor if not the whole hotel. So if you are trying to watch a movie, having the option to have it on a drive might be appealing to some. If it isn't appealing to you, don't buy the drive. You don't have to after all
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Having stayed in a few different hotels the past several weeks, I see that some hotels offer free wifi, but with performance that really makes streaming painful. Others offer both a free, as well as an extra cost "faster" option, and still others where free only in the lobby/public area, with a paid-for option in the room.

Free conflicts with fast, reliable. And even paying doesn't guarantee good performance. That is why wifi hotspot on my phone sometimes gets a workout.
 
Luap said:
DILLIGAS.

Because you don't have to look far on the internet to find bad stuff written about anything and everything, be it true or not.
Point is, they ALL may eventually fail since they are mechanical devices. There is no magic HD that lasts forever. I've got lots of first hand experience of that. But of course only your experience of failed Seagate drives counts, right? :rolleyes:
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What is interesting about the Backblaze article is that they continued to purchase Seagate drives.

As others note, all drives will eventually fail. Without understanding the circumstances of actual use, the failures may happen to any drive exposed to same.

Just look around at all the brands that are no longer present, Seagate, WD, HGST, and Toshiba have survived, despite the anecdotes of personal experiences. Same goes for LaCie and other branded drives. LaCie brand has been around since 1987; can't same much for the other Mac-centric brands.

I've purchased drives from many manufacturers. Perhaps because I baby them they've all lasted a long time. Only real failures were ones that spun in my TiVo DVR for 8 years before expiring, and in another DVR where the drive expired after 5 years. All constantly spinning. For externals, only lost a 5.25" Micropolis years ago.

One tip: never move a spinning drive. Wait until it is off, and no longer spinning. And be careful with those cable connections.

Of course, your mileage may vary.
 
The personal cloud is intriguing. Be nice to store media on it then be able to access it wherever I'm at.
 
Almost there:
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Star Trek Original Series Memory Cards.
 
This would be neat, but fails since they stuff their backup software on it...

This wi-fi hard disk seems good, and solves the problem finally of attaching external storage to iOS device.

However being over wifi, it would be not as fast as eithernet.

This reminds me of the typical iPod Classic's.. except on the super small size.
 
Luap said:
DILLIGAS.

Because you don't have to look far on the internet to find bad stuff written about anything and everything, be it true or not.
Point is, they ALL fail. There is no magic HD that lasts forever. I've got lots of first hand experience of that. But of course only your experience of failed Seagate drives counts, right? :rolleyes:
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who said drives last forever? of course they all fail

but from personal experience, friends' experience, blogs/forum comments written about seagate drives, amazon/newegg reviews (whether or not they're true) all point to seagate drives failing much more.

it seems you're the only one that thinks seagates are just as reliable as any other brand.

anyways, don't bother replying. not going to read anymore of your insulting comments.
 
montycat said:
How much do you want to bet that Apple will disable/block the Seagate Media app from being used
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Seagate's app has been doing this on iOS for at least 3 years now, so nothing is new here except this specific hardware model announced.

akbarali.ch said:
Major problem with these devices are that one needs to connect to the hard drive's wifi hotspot to access/stream data. Which means that while you are using the hard drive you cannot use your cellular internet.
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Major problem? Just swipe up for Control Center and toggle wifi on for the Seagate and off for cellular.
 
Fully admitting my ignorance but isn't 'Back-To-My-Mac' basically personal cloud storage? And accessible through the web too.

Does 'Back-To-My-Mac' work with iOS devices?

A number of years ago I looked into hanging some drives off my Airport Extreme USB interface for being able to access files using 'Back-To-My-Mac' but wound up not going that route.
 
I like this suite or products if, for nothing else, it correctly identifies some of Apple's shortcomings with iCloud. When iCloud works as a backup, it works amazingly well. Invisibly. But there are a lot of times, especially when you're tallking about work files, music, movies, and photos, that you want one-off storage. THe added bonus that it can sync up to the cloud for off-site backup is really nice.

I'll be looking forward to this. I could see a lot of folks with less affordable or accessible Internet also using the Personal Cloud edition, as some others on the thread have stated. I would agree.
 
What's inside?

So, I gather Seagate is using a specially developed and miniaturised MECHANICAL HARD DRIVE in these colourful 500GB babies? Can we say they are new breeds of the drives once used in iPod Classics?
 
mafaky said:
So, I gather Seagate is using a specially developed and miniaturised MECHANICAL HARD DRIVE in these colourful 500GB babies? Can we say they are new breeds of the drives once used in iPod Classics?
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Standard 2.5" SATA HDD inside. Just low profile.
 
it is good, but the hard drive is it really the future ..? Me, I expect more innovation in storage at the SSD ..!




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The various Cloud solutions around the world use SSDs for caching and HDD for the majority of the storage requirements.
 
grahamperrin said:
Rotational media is not the only future, but hard disk drives will continue to be sold (and preferred) for … I don't know how long.

People love low cost stuff.
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Yup. Until SSDs get down to roughly the same price per GB as platter drives, people are gonna be using the latter for all kinds of goofy stuff.

Honestly, and SSD in this thing would be entirely overkill for its intended use. You're using it to store pictures and stream movies to your iPad. You don't need 300MB/s read/write for that.
 
Where's the article showing them dropping support for TB in favor of USB 3.0 primarily.
 
It's real data and potentially meaningful for anyone. Nothing in the links you provide tell us why the report is a bad thing. On the contrary, they actually go through great lengths to explain how Backblaze sources and uses these drives. Their whole process is well documented. You'll simply see failure rates of some drives under similar conditions. A few years ago it was Hitachi. Nowadays it's Seagate. Anyone with a bit of experience buying drives knows this. Don't you think Seagate has the reputation for a reason? Especially the Barracudas. It's not just about the mechanics. They also had massive problems with their firmware. Well documented in this 50 pages long thread.
 
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